Because from an intellectual point of view, I should have loved FFXII. I enjoy the idea of a more political, down-to-earth conflict; I like politics and nations in my stories; I enjoy worlds that feel fairly real. I also strongly support any effort to move storytelling in games beyond the status quo. Reading your post down below, I agree 100%.
But in the end, I couldn't finish XII. Just dropped it after a few hours; it was not able to hold my attention. Granted, the reasons for that are tied to gameplay even more than to story and plot, but something about the execution of the characters and plot played a role as well.
But in the end, I couldn't finish XII. Just dropped it after a few hours; it was not able to hold my attention. Granted, the reasons for that are tied to gameplay even more than to story and plot, but something about the execution of the characters and plot played a role as well.
And even then, it's obvious that it was three stories (Basch-centric, Ashe-centric, and Balthier-centric) working against one another, at times, while simultaneously being told from the perspective of a person just along for the ride with nothing to add who was made the "main" character for appeal to demographic purposes.
It went through so many changes in its development that it ran headlong into some storytelling difficulties at times, but the actual performance of the translation and the voice actors made it work.
Even for just your little bit of time, try to tell me it wouldn't have been a better game with just this tiny little switch: Vaan and Penelo don't exist. Instead of being killed, Vaan's brother lives, and is the main character. You can go through the same general motions in terms of plot, but the reaction and the inter-character play would have been vastly superior. Instead of Vaan confronting Basch on his brother's behalf, his brother does so directly. Balthier having to be a pirate while confronting a former member of the military would provide better interplay, etc.
As far as the gameplay aspects are concerned, it's a love it or hate it thing. Can't blame you, but I enjoyed the entire system which was MMO-esque. I liked how status effects actually mattered. I liked just running around killing stuff. I liked how enemies didn't just straight-up drop gold. *shrug*
So being a FF fan and never having played FF 12...
24/09/2009 10:25:44 PM
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You're not alone- the characters just didn't click for me, nor did the plot
24/09/2009 11:16:11 PM
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Videogame stories suck the big one, with VERY few exceptions.
25/09/2009 12:29:39 AM
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FF7?!?! You're a nutcase!
25/09/2009 01:50:16 AM
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Fair enough. Maybe I'm proving my own point.
26/09/2009 06:46:26 AM
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I will have to disagree with this...
26/09/2009 08:20:46 AM
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Exactly. When I think story here, I think of the individual stories as well as the whole.
26/09/2009 07:13:24 PM
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Still, it's good for a videogame story.
26/09/2009 07:54:01 PM
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I agree, with caveat.
26/09/2009 11:54:25 PM
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New games do not feature the storytelling prowess of good TV, films, or novels.
28/09/2009 01:03:46 AM
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I disagree. Maybe you're playing the wrong games. *NM*
28/09/2009 04:51:48 AM
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What is the videogame equivalent of The Godfather, The Wire, or Great Expectations? *NM*
01/10/2009 03:31:37 AM
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Ah, I see. *NM*
03/10/2009 08:02:28 PM
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Say what?
04/10/2009 02:21:01 PM
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"Ah, I see" means "You haven't answered because there is no satisfactory answer."
05/10/2009 07:06:03 AM
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So you expect me to reply within two days when it took you three?
05/10/2009 10:29:27 PM
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I've used that escape from a debate I was losing, too. It's a good one
06/10/2009 09:21:31 PM
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And yet so many people claim to play them for their stories...
25/09/2009 03:06:44 AM
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The extras lower peoples' standards, but I DO think it's still the story.
25/09/2009 04:34:30 AM
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That's basically what I meant.
25/09/2009 05:05:19 AM
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Yeah I understand.
25/09/2009 05:18:34 AM
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You are correct. But it sounds like semantics to me, since in practice...
25/09/2009 06:00:41 AM
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I enjoyed 12 more than most of those you mentioned...
25/09/2009 12:55:56 AM
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The grid was fine, but didn't scale well.
25/09/2009 04:35:57 AM
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I'll agree with this point, but I also agree with most of the thoughts of the GP
25/09/2009 05:26:18 PM
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I am glad that at least one person here is with me on this.
26/09/2009 05:53:42 AM
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It's interesting....
26/09/2009 06:55:18 PM
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Plot doesn't kick in until later on, sadly
26/09/2009 07:27:55 PM
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Final Fantasy XII was the best written FF ever, by far.
26/09/2009 05:47:27 AM
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LOL... FFXII was the best FFXII ever?
26/09/2009 03:43:11 PM
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That was juvenile, TMJ. Also, he said best written FF. *NM*
26/09/2009 06:58:12 PM
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Yes, it was funny on a juvenile level.
26/09/2009 07:11:12 PM
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Some of us --I'd even say MOST of us-- like that, though.
26/09/2009 07:20:55 PM
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Agreed, I want to get into a magical whale's belly and fly through the air ...
28/09/2009 05:03:14 AM
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