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The funny thing about violence is you can't control it. Tom Send a noteboard - 14/06/2017 04:31:35 PM

If the Left (and I use that term exclusively because the term "liberal" is misapplied to the Left, who have become extremely illiberal of late) believes that violence to stop "hate speech" is acceptable, they really should understand that violence can't be controlled. Even if we were to assume for an instant, arguendo, that it would not be evil per se to murder someone for hateful beliefs, we know that someone is then going to say that person's family is tainted with his beliefs and kill the children. Everyone draws the line at a different point, and when murder takes place, everyone's line is far beyond legitimacy. The very reason we prohibit violence is to protect basic freedoms. We need to circumscribe it even when legitimately used by the state to ensure that no abuse is possible.

Yet somehow, there is a growing belief on the Left that private violence is justified. Of course, if that is the case, then sooner or later I'm going to go around armed in response because I'll have to. If I have reason to believe that Leftists are going around murdering people due to their political beliefs, then if a Leftist starts harassing me my instinct will be to shoot them before I get shot. In this way paramilitary groups will form, just as the Spartacists in Weimar Germany spurred the formation of paramilitary groups. Believe me, I don't want that. I don't want to have to choose between a fascist future and a communist future. I don't want to have to choose between batshit crazy Social Justice Warriors and batshit crazy Daily Sturmers. But if the Left normalizes violence, then I'm going to have to pick a side because our normal political discourse will be dead. My favored methods of resolving disputes - debating, voting and suing - will become ineffective. So at that point I'll have to start singing "Der Rote kommt nie mehr zu Ruh' ".

Of course, once there are street battles between armed paramilitary groups it's only a matter of time before the actual military gets involved, which would lead to either civil war or a military coup. Neither of those are good for the US, and I suspect that the end result of either would not be something that the Left would be happy with. Far more people with guns and training are against the Left than on the Left. For every loser like Reality Winner there are probably 1,000 veterans who think the Antifa and SJWs are full of shit (rightly so). I suspect the numbers in active duty may be even higher.

So yes, this call to violence needs to stop, NOW. Either that or I'll go on a gun buying spree and make sure everyone in my family knows how to shoot with deadly accuracy.

Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.

ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius

Ummaka qinnassa nīk!

*MySmiley*
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The Left Won’t Rest Until Someone Gets Killed - 14/06/2017 02:47:58 PM 1792 Views
Totally agreed with this article... - 14/06/2017 03:58:40 PM 1080 Views
The funny thing about violence is you can't control it. - 14/06/2017 04:31:35 PM 1027 Views
So you thought that would scare me Tom? - 14/06/2017 09:30:34 PM 989 Views
especially since the gunman has been identified - 14/06/2017 05:42:14 PM 1053 Views
And the penny drops... *NM* - 14/06/2017 05:59:30 PM 589 Views
Bernie isn't a Democrat, though - 14/06/2017 06:31:28 PM 1023 Views
How embarrassing that he accidentally ran for their presidential nomination! - 14/06/2017 07:18:57 PM 941 Views
Not an accident - 14/06/2017 07:28:12 PM 926 Views
And in Wonder Woman the Movie they wore different hats!!! - 14/06/2017 09:09:57 PM 922 Views
You mean the Clinton cabal stopped him - 15/06/2017 04:22:41 AM 914 Views
I think you give too much credit to the Clintons - 15/06/2017 04:49:26 AM 1003 Views
I would have actually respected her more... - 15/06/2017 07:07:08 PM 883 Views
well no other democrats wanted to run against her there was an opening *NM* - 15/06/2017 09:41:50 PM 592 Views
There are valid points, but rather a lot of bullshit inbetween for my taste. - 14/06/2017 07:07:10 PM 1166 Views
Obviously excessive hyperbole is a problem from both sides - 14/06/2017 07:20:59 PM 974 Views
Sure, I will admit that. - 14/06/2017 07:23:24 PM 944 Views
There you go again. - 14/06/2017 07:52:47 PM 1002 Views
Yeah, that part sucked.... - 14/06/2017 09:14:10 PM 879 Views
You know what I did? - 15/06/2017 04:16:08 AM 997 Views
Good Idea.... - 15/06/2017 06:59:47 PM 905 Views
Yup. Isn't it shocking? - 14/06/2017 09:18:45 PM 971 Views
I find myself drifting more and more to the right - 14/06/2017 08:26:26 PM 921 Views
I don't, or at least not in an American context, but I agree about the dead horse. - 14/06/2017 09:32:23 PM 1026 Views
That's not correct. - 15/06/2017 04:19:06 AM 1018 Views
I agree with Tom's premise, if not the content. - 15/06/2017 09:46:57 AM 982 Views
I really should post more. We're letting Tom and Cannoli get away with far too much. *NM* - 15/06/2017 10:12:53 AM 518 Views
YES, YOU SHOULD - 15/06/2017 11:09:34 AM 922 Views
Agreed. *NM* - 15/06/2017 02:45:40 PM 966 Views
It would still be a pretty right-wing site - 15/06/2017 02:58:30 PM 1008 Views
funny you would say that - 15/06/2017 03:20:58 PM 988 Views
I so miss Camilla. - 15/06/2017 08:50:36 PM 897 Views
Camilla and the Aussies were our lefty leaders - 15/06/2017 09:04:12 PM 1036 Views
God I miss Wads - 15/06/2017 10:29:38 PM 1014 Views
D'oh! *NM* - 15/06/2017 03:20:58 PM 557 Views
*NM* - 15/06/2017 04:37:56 PM 609 Views
I never could tell when you were being sarcastic and when not. On the whole I'm thinking yes. *NM* - 15/06/2017 08:48:54 PM 488 Views
Hmm... I miss Camilla too. - 15/06/2017 08:55:04 PM 798 Views
Sad but true - the left is truly unhinged, full of violence and hate - 15/06/2017 03:36:20 AM 908 Views
I was considering making a post called "what the fuck is wrong with progressives?" - 15/06/2017 06:49:10 AM 1036 Views
It's because they have begun to eat themselves. - 15/06/2017 02:14:23 PM 944 Views
Yeah, but... - 15/06/2017 02:46:51 PM 1002 Views
yes, that - 15/06/2017 03:20:00 PM 930 Views
The day I realized that I didn't know every damned thing was when I at last gained a little wisdom. - 15/06/2017 03:30:07 PM 877 Views
I get where you're coming from, but... - 15/06/2017 05:01:13 PM 928 Views
Isn't that a good characterization of much of the Left? - 15/06/2017 04:09:10 PM 886 Views
Maybe? A large section of the academic left, anyway - 15/06/2017 05:17:14 PM 848 Views
Well, yeah - 15/06/2017 04:36:37 PM 945 Views
The Wheel of Time turns, and Ages come and pass... - 15/06/2017 10:40:42 PM 1016 Views
I can promise you they haven't read their history. - 16/06/2017 12:25:56 AM 799 Views
No offense intended, but have *you* read it carefully? - 16/06/2017 01:41:19 AM 1103 Views
I've read it somewhat carefully. I think I said my point poorly, though. - 16/06/2017 03:23:26 AM 923 Views
An obsession with the rule of law in Weimar Germany? - 16/06/2017 04:26:30 AM 869 Views
She blocked me after telling me to go fuck myself. - 16/06/2017 04:38:43 AM 825 Views
Sounds like a winner, that one - 16/06/2017 02:20:19 PM 962 Views
Poor Weimar. - 16/06/2017 12:32:09 PM 895 Views
Ha! - 16/06/2017 03:00:38 PM 868 Views
Their shenanigans actually hurt their cause. - 15/06/2017 03:32:09 PM 942 Views
Also, they're just puerile. Pussy hats? Seriously? If you want to be taken seriously, dress properly - 16/06/2017 12:36:36 AM 992 Views
A short webcomic for you ghavrel - 16/06/2017 01:54:00 AM 951 Views
Most Americans laugh at "microaggressions" and phrases like "toxic masculinity" - 16/06/2017 04:31:40 AM 803 Views
I unironically use some of those - 16/06/2017 04:42:21 AM 1034 Views
Quit gaslighting me, dude *NM* - 16/06/2017 02:18:17 PM 515 Views
Why do you hate the word gaslighting? - 16/06/2017 08:42:34 PM 871 Views
It's used by progressives whenever someone disagrees with them. - 16/06/2017 11:24:03 PM 1010 Views
So let me come at this from a different angle - 17/06/2017 04:48:37 AM 921 Views
You're overthinking this. - 17/06/2017 10:28:47 AM 996 Views
What are you even talking about? - 17/06/2017 11:01:42 AM 1041 Views
POC - 16/06/2017 01:54:31 PM 894 Views
I would assume "POC" meant "piece of crap" - 16/06/2017 02:17:07 PM 874 Views
Point of Contact - 16/06/2017 03:09:26 PM 1090 Views
WTF? "Good needs"? That doesn't even make any sense! - 16/06/2017 05:55:45 PM 962 Views
I have some good needs - 16/06/2017 06:07:35 PM 872 Views
I'll just bet you do. *NM* - 16/06/2017 06:13:23 PM 518 Views
Neither does "handicapped", honestly - 16/06/2017 07:18:15 PM 943 Views
It will stop, the robots will one day take over - 16/06/2017 08:41:03 PM 966 Views
My opinion on this - 16/06/2017 08:39:40 PM 1134 Views
No - 17/06/2017 07:11:17 AM 871 Views
Belas, a rhetorical question, where do monsters come from? *NM* - 17/06/2017 08:58:00 AM 518 Views
These come from institutions of higher "learning" *NM* - 17/06/2017 05:07:47 PM 562 Views
under the bed or in the bedroom closet. d'uh. *NM* - 17/06/2017 05:30:05 PM 521 Views
POP - 16/06/2017 09:07:28 PM 988 Views
Thought you were going to make a People of Penes / Penii joke - 16/06/2017 09:43:31 PM 937 Views
That is the way I started to feel about the conserative movement - 15/06/2017 09:41:07 PM 908 Views
President Mike Pence - 15/06/2017 03:53:15 PM 935 Views
LOL - 15/06/2017 03:56:37 PM 904 Views
Too much Jacobin. Not enough Jacques. - 15/06/2017 09:58:27 PM 982 Views
RAWR, bows down to the sexiness - 15/06/2017 10:45:41 PM 883 Views

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