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Polarization of both the Left and the Right The Shrike Send a noteboard - 23/08/2017 04:35:24 PM

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We all key our bias cloud our perception of reality but it has reached the point where pointing out the gap between someone's truth and reality is considered offensive. Point out to alt right conservatives the factual holes in their view on immigration and you are in favour of open borders and want to meet Mexico take over our country. Point out that members of both sides wee committing violence inn Charlottesville and you support neo nazies. This sorry of thinking needs to be challenged and the centrist are the only ones that can do it.

Means there is more room in the center. But it also means that the Center is further away from both the Far Left and the Far Right. So it becomes much harder for people on the Left/Right to broach the middle. You are right that Centrists need to be the ones to broach the gap.

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What Moderates Believe The Shrike - 23/08/2017 01:14:34 PM 1330 Views
You can see Brooks' conservative roots in his analysis of governments damookster - 23/08/2017 02:58:58 PM 739 Views
I call myself a radical moderate random thoughts - 23/08/2017 03:53:18 PM 749 Views
Brooks is the person I usually agree with the most at the NYT. The Shrike - 23/08/2017 04:33:11 PM 642 Views
It isn't a universal truth, though - it may be valid in liberal democracies, but not everywhere. Legolas - 23/08/2017 06:56:29 PM 679 Views
I view governments like referees in sports damookster - 23/08/2017 07:06:47 PM 709 Views
Yeah. That's a better way of putting it. *NM* Legolas - 23/08/2017 08:09:11 PM 355 Views
Truth may be objective but reality isn't random thoughts - 23/08/2017 03:59:18 PM 622 Views
Polarization of both the Left and the Right The Shrike - 23/08/2017 04:35:24 PM 697 Views
If only we had a centrist media source random thoughts - 23/08/2017 05:15:13 PM 593 Views
No incentive in that aerocontrols - 23/08/2017 05:22:49 PM 926 Views
Great column, despite my quibble above. Legolas - 23/08/2017 07:03:31 PM 653 Views
I'm still hopeful about Macron. The Shrike - 25/08/2017 06:25:31 PM 815 Views
The problem with getting a new party to break the two party lock Hieshyn - 23/08/2017 09:18:37 PM 845 Views
And Cash Money Aviendha - 24/08/2017 06:23:34 PM 672 Views
Both parties are more fractured than they have been in a very long time random thoughts - 24/08/2017 07:37:14 PM 661 Views
I was of the opinion that after Rand Paul was out of the primaries, Hieshyn - 24/08/2017 11:17:49 PM 683 Views
Sorry but no one one who wants to end social security has a chance too win random thoughts - 25/08/2017 02:19:12 AM 640 Views
Universal Basic Income may be the issue. The Shrike - 25/08/2017 06:26:08 PM 617 Views
This is an excellent point. nossy - 25/08/2017 08:12:36 PM 731 Views
I think perhaps The Shrike - 25/08/2017 10:22:14 PM 724 Views
Moderates need a better narrative Tom - 24/08/2017 05:19:14 AM 603 Views
Rejecting the extremes aerocontrols - 24/08/2017 02:48:12 PM 651 Views
Does it matter why they're lukewarm? They're still going to get spewed out. Cannoli - 24/08/2017 01:08:30 PM 878 Views
Moderates are from Laodicea? damookster - 24/08/2017 01:37:44 PM 614 Views
Moderates are the Cheese Pizza of politics... Jeordam - 24/08/2017 05:17:55 PM 668 Views
That is a cure analogy but not really accurate random thoughts - 24/08/2017 05:38:54 PM 688 Views
You know what though? Aviendha - 24/08/2017 06:18:48 PM 691 Views
*laughs* Jeordam - 24/08/2017 07:03:58 PM 621 Views
Aviendha - 24/08/2017 07:13:53 PM 612 Views
That's one heck of an oven.... Jeordam - 24/08/2017 08:54:43 PM 638 Views
lets here it for libertarian pizza *NM* random thoughts - 24/08/2017 07:25:18 PM 404 Views
I won't eat cheese pizza. *NM* Tom - 24/08/2017 07:43:03 PM 369 Views
Cheese (Actually extra cheese pizza is my favorite) The Shrike - 25/08/2017 06:29:41 PM 768 Views
I enjoyed this nossy - 24/08/2017 08:19:50 PM 764 Views
Kind of a "here is why we are screwed" *NM* random thoughts - 24/08/2017 08:51:00 PM 468 Views
Because from what you've written and said The Shrike - 25/08/2017 06:28:46 PM 744 Views
I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Ghavrel - 24/08/2017 10:53:44 PM 620 Views
Yes. You would. damookster - 25/08/2017 01:06:47 AM 753 Views
I long ago came to the conclusion that I'm generally conservative in my tastes. Ghavrel - 25/08/2017 01:28:08 AM 602 Views
We'll make a conservative of you yet. Tom - 25/08/2017 02:36:01 PM 651 Views
I'd be an anarchosyndicalist, except that I have a basic working knowledge of history. Ghavrel - 25/08/2017 03:47:35 PM 668 Views
I am unsurprised at your disagreement. The Shrike - 25/08/2017 06:42:32 PM 700 Views
Re: I am unsurprised at your disagreement. Ghavrel - 25/08/2017 11:01:56 PM 716 Views
Well now, this will get into the meaning of truth. The Shrike - 26/08/2017 01:04:14 AM 542 Views
Re: Well now, this will get into the meaning of truth. Ghavrel - 26/08/2017 01:16:56 AM 820 Views
I hope you don't mind me butting in on your conversation damookster - 26/08/2017 01:46:45 AM 631 Views
Guilty as charged. The Shrike - 26/08/2017 08:27:45 PM 681 Views
I'm a moderate/centrist insofar as the fact that I'm neither an overall leftist or rightist. LiterateDog - 25/08/2017 03:24:12 PM 592 Views
You know that communists are technically anti-statists, right? Ghavrel - 25/08/2017 03:57:37 PM 701 Views
Somehow I think Joe knows what purported Marxists say, and also what they do. *NM* aerocontrols - 25/08/2017 04:44:59 PM 452 Views
The academy is probably more anarchic left these days, really. Ghavrel - 25/08/2017 11:09:19 PM 851 Views
Communism is an economic system. The Shrike - 25/08/2017 06:55:26 PM 667 Views
It's more than that if you adopt an orthodox Marxist view. Ghavrel - 25/08/2017 11:07:03 PM 619 Views
Your argument sounded like this: Tom - 27/08/2017 03:20:43 PM 899 Views
Well, yes. Though I think you're conflating "communism" with "Marxism" here. Ghavrel - 27/08/2017 06:14:54 PM 954 Views
You believe in personal rights/freedoms. The Shrike - 25/08/2017 06:49:30 PM 661 Views
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