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Polarization of both the Left and the Right The Shrike Send a noteboard - 23/08/2017 04:35:24 PM

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We all key our bias cloud our perception of reality but it has reached the point where pointing out the gap between someone's truth and reality is considered offensive. Point out to alt right conservatives the factual holes in their view on immigration and you are in favour of open borders and want to meet Mexico take over our country. Point out that members of both sides wee committing violence inn Charlottesville and you support neo nazies. This sorry of thinking needs to be challenged and the centrist are the only ones that can do it.

Means there is more room in the center. But it also means that the Center is further away from both the Far Left and the Far Right. So it becomes much harder for people on the Left/Right to broach the middle. You are right that Centrists need to be the ones to broach the gap.

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What Moderates Believe The Shrike - 23/08/2017 01:14:34 PM 1296 Views
You can see Brooks' conservative roots in his analysis of governments damookster - 23/08/2017 02:58:58 PM 693 Views
I call myself a radical moderate random thoughts - 23/08/2017 03:53:18 PM 718 Views
Brooks is the person I usually agree with the most at the NYT. The Shrike - 23/08/2017 04:33:11 PM 611 Views
It isn't a universal truth, though - it may be valid in liberal democracies, but not everywhere. Legolas - 23/08/2017 06:56:29 PM 647 Views
I view governments like referees in sports damookster - 23/08/2017 07:06:47 PM 677 Views
Yeah. That's a better way of putting it. *NM* Legolas - 23/08/2017 08:09:11 PM 341 Views
Truth may be objective but reality isn't random thoughts - 23/08/2017 03:59:18 PM 591 Views
Polarization of both the Left and the Right The Shrike - 23/08/2017 04:35:24 PM 663 Views
If only we had a centrist media source random thoughts - 23/08/2017 05:15:13 PM 569 Views
No incentive in that aerocontrols - 23/08/2017 05:22:49 PM 879 Views
Great column, despite my quibble above. Legolas - 23/08/2017 07:03:31 PM 623 Views
I'm still hopeful about Macron. The Shrike - 25/08/2017 06:25:31 PM 785 Views
The problem with getting a new party to break the two party lock Hieshyn - 23/08/2017 09:18:37 PM 812 Views
And Cash Money Aviendha - 24/08/2017 06:23:34 PM 644 Views
Both parties are more fractured than they have been in a very long time random thoughts - 24/08/2017 07:37:14 PM 633 Views
I was of the opinion that after Rand Paul was out of the primaries, Hieshyn - 24/08/2017 11:17:49 PM 620 Views
Sorry but no one one who wants to end social security has a chance too win random thoughts - 25/08/2017 02:19:12 AM 605 Views
Universal Basic Income may be the issue. The Shrike - 25/08/2017 06:26:08 PM 586 Views
This is an excellent point. nossy - 25/08/2017 08:12:36 PM 693 Views
I think perhaps The Shrike - 25/08/2017 10:22:14 PM 682 Views
Moderates need a better narrative Tom - 24/08/2017 05:19:14 AM 575 Views
Rejecting the extremes aerocontrols - 24/08/2017 02:48:12 PM 622 Views
Does it matter why they're lukewarm? They're still going to get spewed out. Cannoli - 24/08/2017 01:08:30 PM 847 Views
Moderates are from Laodicea? damookster - 24/08/2017 01:37:44 PM 582 Views
Moderates are the Cheese Pizza of politics... Jeordam - 24/08/2017 05:17:55 PM 637 Views
That is a cure analogy but not really accurate random thoughts - 24/08/2017 05:38:54 PM 656 Views
You know what though? Aviendha - 24/08/2017 06:18:48 PM 662 Views
*laughs* Jeordam - 24/08/2017 07:03:58 PM 582 Views
Aviendha - 24/08/2017 07:13:53 PM 580 Views
That's one heck of an oven.... Jeordam - 24/08/2017 08:54:43 PM 603 Views
lets here it for libertarian pizza *NM* random thoughts - 24/08/2017 07:25:18 PM 385 Views
I won't eat cheese pizza. *NM* Tom - 24/08/2017 07:43:03 PM 355 Views
Cheese (Actually extra cheese pizza is my favorite) The Shrike - 25/08/2017 06:29:41 PM 738 Views
I enjoyed this nossy - 24/08/2017 08:19:50 PM 730 Views
Kind of a "here is why we are screwed" *NM* random thoughts - 24/08/2017 08:51:00 PM 453 Views
Because from what you've written and said The Shrike - 25/08/2017 06:28:46 PM 711 Views
I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Ghavrel - 24/08/2017 10:53:44 PM 584 Views
Yes. You would. damookster - 25/08/2017 01:06:47 AM 719 Views
I long ago came to the conclusion that I'm generally conservative in my tastes. Ghavrel - 25/08/2017 01:28:08 AM 573 Views
We'll make a conservative of you yet. Tom - 25/08/2017 02:36:01 PM 618 Views
I'd be an anarchosyndicalist, except that I have a basic working knowledge of history. Ghavrel - 25/08/2017 03:47:35 PM 632 Views
I am unsurprised at your disagreement. The Shrike - 25/08/2017 06:42:32 PM 664 Views
Re: I am unsurprised at your disagreement. Ghavrel - 25/08/2017 11:01:56 PM 692 Views
Well now, this will get into the meaning of truth. The Shrike - 26/08/2017 01:04:14 AM 514 Views
Re: Well now, this will get into the meaning of truth. Ghavrel - 26/08/2017 01:16:56 AM 787 Views
I hope you don't mind me butting in on your conversation damookster - 26/08/2017 01:46:45 AM 602 Views
Guilty as charged. The Shrike - 26/08/2017 08:27:45 PM 648 Views
I'm a moderate/centrist insofar as the fact that I'm neither an overall leftist or rightist. LiterateDog - 25/08/2017 03:24:12 PM 559 Views
You know that communists are technically anti-statists, right? Ghavrel - 25/08/2017 03:57:37 PM 669 Views
Somehow I think Joe knows what purported Marxists say, and also what they do. *NM* aerocontrols - 25/08/2017 04:44:59 PM 436 Views
The academy is probably more anarchic left these days, really. Ghavrel - 25/08/2017 11:09:19 PM 817 Views
Communism is an economic system. The Shrike - 25/08/2017 06:55:26 PM 637 Views
It's more than that if you adopt an orthodox Marxist view. Ghavrel - 25/08/2017 11:07:03 PM 587 Views
Your argument sounded like this: Tom - 27/08/2017 03:20:43 PM 865 Views
Well, yes. Though I think you're conflating "communism" with "Marxism" here. Ghavrel - 27/08/2017 06:14:54 PM 923 Views
You believe in personal rights/freedoms. The Shrike - 25/08/2017 06:49:30 PM 631 Views
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