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Re: So let's work through these... - Edit 1

Before modification by Jeordam at 02/10/2017 10:02:52 PM


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View original post- Universal background checks for guns and ammo

So this background check is for what? Felonies? Mental health records? I suppose there's a fee associated with this? And the amount of time. And is this all guns or just certain guns. And for the ammo, is this for all types of ammo, finished rounds, or does it include the raw material components as well?

And then just to say this, do you think that we should have background checks for Freedom of Religion issues? How about Freedom of Speech stuff? Those rights are as articulated as the right to have a gun.


View original post- Violent felons ban

Ok, so define "violent". Does someone have to get hurt, or can they just have a weapon while in commission of the crime? What if someone is the accomplice, but they don't have a weapon? Does it have to be an actual weapon, or something that could be a weapon (a picked up rock, for instance).

And then to bring it up again, once a felon has served their time, they still retain their freedom of religion/speech/etc....


View original post- Requirements for reporting stolen and lost guns

Ok...so this would do what exactly? How would this be anything but unnecessary paperwork?
View original post- National gun registries

As alluded to before, should we also register everyone who wants to exercise their free speech, religion, and press? What's involved in this registry? I fill out more paperwork, pay a fee (?) and then I get my Constitutional rights? And then what does this registry actually serve? It would essentially be a very big list of a pretty big section of America. What if you weren't on that list? Is that a crime? That I didn't register for my Constitutional right?
View original post- Require licenses

So we've kinda covered this one before....or something akin to it. Keep in mind that I live in California, which is pretty hard core about gun laws...not that they make a huge difference.
View original post- Remove the blocks on the CDC that resulted from NRA lobbying preventing data collection and publishing.

Now this one I'll certainly jump on board with. At my heart, I'm a scientist. Collecting data is second nature.
View original postThe reason nothing has been done isn't because there are no potential solutions. The solutions are there and have been implemented abroad and in individual states, but on a federal level lobbying has crippled any attempt to make things better.

As mentioned, I live in California...gun laws are pretty hardcore here. But everything that you mentioned here woudln't really do anything to stop what just happened in Las Vegas...or what took place at that Elementary School.
View original postPeople should be getting angry, right now, because people are being killed for no reason. And nothing in this post is anything you or anybody else doesn't already know.

Dude....you should be very careful how you characterize what other people are feeling. Am I angry? Yes. Do I articulate it the same way? No. But anger isn't my overriding emotion right now. I feel sad. I think about the fact that a bunch of people went out to a music festival to have a great night out....and many aren't coming home to family/loved ones. I think about all those people that went to the nightclub in Florida, and the same thing. Or the parents of those kids dropped off at school...and they don't get to hold their children again.

That is the emotion that I'm feeling. And then I read different things around the internet, and I see that some CBS lawyer isn't sympathetic, because it was a country music festival, so a bunch of Republicans probably just died. Or I then I read before that it was a gay club...so they didn't feel as sympathetic....

That's what makes it even sadder...and on a personal level, that's what makes me even angrier. These are friends, family, neighbors...and if they weren't even that, they are human beings with dreams and aspirations like everyone else, and they died in a state of fear. Instead of raging and screaming, we need to be caring and sympathetic....we need to create and build.

It's not the tool that caused this, it was the man. The tool helped the massacre enlarge, but it was the man who caused it to be done in the first place. Fix that, and you have an actual solution.

~Jeordam



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