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Did you actually look at the graph you posted? Ghavrel Send a noteboard - 05/10/2017 10:01:09 AM

If you're braking your car and slam into a wall, the fact that you were decelerating before you hit the wall doesn't mean that the wall didn't play a role in you stopping.

There's a notable increase in the rate of decline of suicides after the introduction of the gun ban, which you would acknowledge if you put aside your preconceived notions and looked at the actual data.

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Las Vegas shooter had 12 guns modified with bump-stocks TheCrownless - 04/10/2017 03:15:33 AM 1300 Views
The House Bill the SHARE Act also was going to legalize Armor Piercing Bullets has 212 cosponsors Roland00 - 04/10/2017 05:38:08 AM 805 Views
Bump stocks are considered legal because they are not mechanical devices and... damookster - 04/10/2017 06:01:31 AM 577 Views
Yup *NM* TheCrownless - 05/10/2017 02:55:59 AM 269 Views
Hold your fire. Nargs - 04/10/2017 06:39:03 AM 730 Views
There's a very significant correlation between eliminating firearms and reducing suicide. Ghavrel - 04/10/2017 07:54:27 AM 744 Views
Wrong Nargs - 04/10/2017 08:50:24 AM 547 Views
Did you actually look at the graph you posted? Ghavrel - 05/10/2017 10:01:09 AM 556 Views
looks like the study was structured more for politics than science random thoughts - 04/10/2017 02:33:59 PM 612 Views
People are more complicated than airplanes and buildings, so the science is more complicated as well Ghavrel - 05/10/2017 10:03:45 AM 492 Views
Studies show that 90% of studies show what the person doing the study wanted to prove random thoughts - 05/10/2017 12:09:51 PM 498 Views
The statistic in the article I linked below for nossy says 75% of gun deaths in 5% of ZIP codes. Tom - 04/10/2017 06:15:15 PM 563 Views
We have an audio of the attack and that was little better than a round a second random thoughts - 04/10/2017 02:21:35 PM 591 Views
good point damookster - 04/10/2017 03:57:37 PM 602 Views
I wouldn't oppose banning bump-stocks but I am not it would have changed the out come here random thoughts - 04/10/2017 06:11:27 PM 471 Views
me too damookster - 04/10/2017 06:41:55 PM 629 Views
Re: I wouldn't oppose banning bump-stocks but I am not it would have changed the out come here *NM* random thoughts - 05/10/2017 03:28:06 AM 290 Views
Why edit when you can double post? *NM* random thoughts - 05/10/2017 03:36:22 AM 291 Views
Easy enough to ban both. *NM* TheCrownless - 05/10/2017 02:59:15 AM 261 Views
and blocking stuff like that is one of the reasons I don't support the NRA random thoughts - 05/10/2017 06:37:36 PM 594 Views
I found this article interesting. nossy - 04/10/2017 03:22:20 PM 803 Views
It was an interesting article (here comes the "but" damookster - 04/10/2017 03:43:13 PM 555 Views
Don't talk about my butt nossy - 04/10/2017 06:00:58 PM 573 Views
would I do that? damookster - 04/10/2017 06:39:37 PM 531 Views
of course most people should be more worried about being shot by a family memeber random thoughts - 04/10/2017 06:31:05 PM 488 Views
Many won't fear it unless they've seen it happen. nossy - 04/10/2017 06:38:03 PM 567 Views
Re: Many won't fear it unless they've seen it happen. nossy - 04/10/2017 06:51:09 PM 543 Views
My nephew wasn't Child when he shot himself. random thoughts - 05/10/2017 03:35:37 AM 494 Views
Sorry, I didn't mean to suggest it's only small children. nossy - 05/10/2017 11:13:22 AM 534 Views
Sorry if I came off as be offended random thoughts - 05/10/2017 12:14:32 PM 531 Views
This is getting very apologetic. nossy - 05/10/2017 12:21:43 PM 542 Views
Re: Sorry if I came off as be offended *NM* random thoughts - 09/10/2017 08:38:11 PM 263 Views
This article questions the findings of that. PS - Vox is really biased. Tom - 04/10/2017 06:08:44 PM 714 Views
the problem is the stats on the US ignore facts that don't sell the narrative random thoughts - 04/10/2017 06:23:48 PM 608 Views
Thanks. nossy - 04/10/2017 06:24:40 PM 506 Views
There's nothing wrong with an AR-15 per se. It's a good hunting rifle. Tom - 04/10/2017 06:02:56 PM 594 Views
I live in Alabama, but I've never owned a gun, and could never understand the use of an AR15... TyrReborn - 04/10/2017 06:55:26 PM 562 Views
I knew a guy in Florida who also hunted wild boar. damookster - 04/10/2017 06:58:44 PM 538 Views
It's also great for killing dozens of people in a crowd from a 32 story window TheCrownless - 05/10/2017 02:58:48 AM 503 Views
no it isn't random thoughts - 05/10/2017 03:50:09 AM 569 Views
Nothing was done after 20 or so little kids were slaughtered at Sandy Hook. Vodalus - 04/10/2017 11:14:26 PM 499 Views
It's the same debate from the same place we were then.... Jeordam - 04/10/2017 11:24:28 PM 498 Views
That was a rhetorical question. *NM* Vodalus - 04/10/2017 11:32:48 PM 299 Views
"None of the proposed ideas would have stopped the incident." TheCrownless - 05/10/2017 03:01:55 AM 490 Views
Personal rights are more important than incidental murders. Cannoli - 06/10/2017 11:46:44 PM 580 Views
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