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Wait, so your idea is to have new elections without Merkel in which the Union will greatly improve? Legolas Send a noteboard - 21/11/2017 11:12:49 PM

View original postHer ruinous immigration policy is what put her in the current position she's in and everyone knows it. Dump her off the boat (which would probably lift it a considerable amount given how fat the old bag is) and go back to sanity on immigration. It would kill the AfD and probably make a CDU-CSU either the dominant party by itself again, or allow for a coalition ONLY with FDP, which is doable.

That sounds rather unlikely to be honest. Yes, a more right-wing candidate - Seehofer perhaps, or someone else - could gain back some votes from the AfD. But we'd be talking, what, a few percentage points? And how much would they lose in the centre in the meantime? If you ask me, at least as much as they'd gain on the right, and very likely more.

In the longer run it may be something else, especially if the AfD runs into the ground and breaks down into endless in-fighting like so many populist right parties in Europe, but if we're talking about new elections in the short term, I don't see how Merkel stepping aside solves anything.

When I said Lindner had to get over it, I meant with the current election results, and as a pragmatic conclusion rather than as a judgement of his policies or positions - for whatever reason, he was the one to walk out and not the Greens, otherwise I'd have said the same about the Greens.

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Details. - 21/11/2017 06:24:15 PM 359 Views
Maybe it's not Lindner who needs to "get over it"? Maybe it's Merkel? - 21/11/2017 08:44:37 PM 366 Views
Wait, so your idea is to have new elections without Merkel in which the Union will greatly improve? - 21/11/2017 11:12:49 PM 389 Views
The only reason the AfD won 94 seats is because of Merkel - 22/11/2017 06:02:31 AM 597 Views
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