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Well screw you and your nuance, whitey! Cannoli Send a noteboard - 28/01/2019 11:21:08 PM

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I didn't read the article. If I was going to read something that long, it would be the book that I have at home that I am currently in the middle of.

You got the gist.
Now onto the subject, I have a few questions....

Questions are a tool of oppression.
1) Money makes everything equal? Let's say that reparations are paid out. This means an end to....racism? This means an end to....thug life? This means an end to....social injustice? I'm curious as to what this payout is to accomplish other than a tangible expression (?) of an apology?
The Germans paid reparations to Israel and built up its merchant fleet. The Jews only accepted reparations because they couldn't send an army into Germany to kill people while taking the money. But the reparations were super helpful to Israel's economy and that's why Israel is a prosperous country today! The fact that the educational discrepancies between Jews and African-Americans is wider than the Grand Canyon has NO BEARING on that historical success and there is absolutely no reason why the nation-state of Black America could not use the reparations to their government to become a regional power as well.
2) Logistically, how are these paid out and from what fund? How is the amount determined? Are older Americans getting paid more, because they have lived through more circumstances? Or maybe based on location? What about if an individual is of mixed heritage? Would people who could "pass for white" get money? We can't even agree on funding means to increase security at our boarder, yet we want to fund the nation's racist past? Would the reparations be taxed? At regular levels? At bonus levels?

These are bad faith questions intended to duck the issue. You see, some black people did not like it in the Deep South, so they moved up to Chicago, where they could act like people for once, but since all the cool white people owned houses, they tried to buy houses too. But the racist banks for some reason didn't think that semi-literate menial laborers born and raised in the poorest, worst-educated part of the country, were good loan risks, so the black migrants turned to predatory lenders and scam artists and got gypped out of their money and their homes. This is like super racist and traumatized the black population so badly that in the last presidential election they voted overwhelmingly for a woman who ran the same sort of scam 30 some years ago!

So basically, just give "the blacks" a bunch of money and they'll sort it out wisely. I guess. The article was kind of short on details and long on sob stories.


3) So if Tax Money is used....what about those who didn't even have ancestors here during the Slavery days? My family wasn't here. It was still in Mexico.

If your family didn't suck so hard, Mexico would have held onto Texas and that would not have been a slave state. Or they'd have held on California and there would have been no compromise of 1850.
My family wasn't involved in setting the "Separate but Equal" laws. They didn't have anything to do with the housing/lending issues.

Do you love America? Well, there you go! If you love America, you have to own its sins. Was your family at Valley Forge? Lexington? Concord? Were you defending Fort McHenry? No? But you sing the song, don't you? You consume all that delicious freedom that was made out of the sweat, and squeezed out of the whip wounds, of black slaves. You owe reparations!
I'm all for conversation

Well the comic book writer of Black Panther and Captain America is really more interested in a lecture. Delivered by him, not you.
regarding the past, but I'm not sure throwing money at the problem will alleviate anything. In fact, I think the very concept that "money will solve this problem" will actually just exasperate the issue.
That's your white privilege talking. According to such luminaries and moral paragons as Richard M Nixon, black Americans "are owed a dividend."

As noted by me above, and Mr. Coates, it worked for the state of Israel, and Israel in the 50s was exactly the same as the black American community today, so only racism can explain a reluctance to believe it will work just as well.

Cannoli
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This message last edited by Cannoli on 28/01/2019 at 11:23:22 PM
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