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I agree, it's not obvious where that money would go. Legolas Send a noteboard - 11/02/2019 08:14:31 PM

View original postThey pay significantly more than I do. Not sure if it's 70/30 or 67/33 but it's one or the other. If they don't give me that as additional salary, how does this help me?

Considering the usual priorities of large companies, it does seem likely that large parts of their savings from health insurance contributions, in this hypothetical situation, would go to shareholders through dividends or share buy-backs, rather than to the employees in the shape of higher salaries. But you know, the same was true for the corporate tax reductions they got from the recent Republican tax cuts, which were supposed to stimulate growth and whatnot. To some extent, they surely did - but a large part of it was sort of wasted in the sense that it benefited shareholders rich enough that the extra profits gained didn't have much impact on their lives.

Whenever you make this kind of large changes, there will be people who directly benefit and people who directly suffer. Sometimes - though I'm not sure if it's the case here - the total benefit is clearly larger than the total loss, but that may still be scant comfort if the winners can't be bothered to share their gains with the losers, and the government doesn't dare to step in and force them to.

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Medicare for All - just add 36% points to your marginal tax rate - - 11/02/2019 02:30:53 PM 948 Views
That is just to cover the additional costs. - 11/02/2019 03:36:23 PM 443 Views
Very good point! *NM* - 11/02/2019 04:07:17 PM 244 Views
But I heard we can just print some $1 Trillion coins and pay for it that way *NM* - 11/02/2019 03:38:01 PM 250 Views
All paid via Bitcoins! - 11/02/2019 04:07:46 PM 413 Views
I can't even imagine... - 11/02/2019 04:47:31 PM 453 Views
Agreed, it would destroy a lot of households. *NM* - 12/02/2019 04:59:45 AM 242 Views
You realize this is a ridiculous comparison, right? - 11/02/2019 06:06:55 PM 608 Views
Eliminating my health insurance costs benefits my employer far more than me. - 11/02/2019 06:34:44 PM 474 Views
I agree, it's not obvious where that money would go. - 11/02/2019 08:14:31 PM 447 Views
The Trump tax cuts put an extra $300 per month in my take-home pay. - 11/02/2019 08:18:04 PM 430 Views
I was talking about the corporate tax reduction part. - 11/02/2019 08:39:08 PM 450 Views
So if they just took the money your employer is already paying... *NM* - 11/02/2019 11:43:02 PM 259 Views
Mookie why can't I buy into Medicare, why do you get Medicare? - 12/02/2019 12:47:42 AM 429 Views
I do not have Medicare even though I’m old enough to qualify. - 12/02/2019 12:52:04 AM 428 Views
I repeat why can't I buy into Medicare? - 12/02/2019 01:06:26 AM 407 Views
I liked Mike Tyson’s version. - 12/02/2019 03:06:51 AM 441 Views
I never answered your question, did I? - 13/02/2019 12:33:55 AM 413 Views
Buy in, he said. - 13/02/2019 12:41:29 AM 413 Views
Less than private insurance? - 13/02/2019 12:59:44 AM 414 Views
You are making assumptions here. - 13/02/2019 01:27:12 AM 410 Views
You’re right, I am. - 13/02/2019 02:08:02 AM 428 Views
Nothing wrong with that - 13/02/2019 03:18:40 AM 416 Views
I’m sorry Roland that your experiences have been so negative. - 13/02/2019 03:33:20 AM 423 Views
by the way, I’m on my third dirty Cajun martini... - 13/02/2019 03:41:51 AM 425 Views
It is probably good that I am broke right now - 13/02/2019 04:21:37 AM 433 Views
Yup... - 13/02/2019 05:00:42 AM 403 Views
Yes , you are right - 13/02/2019 05:16:07 AM 439 Views
I'll have to take your word for it... - 11/02/2019 07:14:15 PM 457 Views
Fair enough. - 11/02/2019 08:22:13 PM 429 Views
*nods* - 11/02/2019 10:16:12 PM 439 Views
Is it really wasteful? I think that is just your moral intuition. - 12/02/2019 12:55:21 AM 403 Views
Have you ever worked with the US government? - 12/02/2019 05:30:44 PM 435 Views
I can't import the paperwork and accounting software without importing their values? - 12/02/2019 06:08:07 PM 402 Views
As someone who writes technical documents and consults with software.... - 12/02/2019 09:30:33 PM 413 Views
Too many cooks, thus we must remain with the Status Quo? *NM* - 12/02/2019 10:06:32 PM 229 Views
On US government inefficiency... - 13/02/2019 12:45:39 AM 427 Views
I agree with you. - 13/02/2019 06:42:21 PM 382 Views
How is it ridiculous? - 12/02/2019 12:45:40 AM 420 Views

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