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I hope not on this site / wotmania? Legolas Send a noteboard - 10/05/2019 07:23:02 PM

View original postI once had a very long argument online with a dude who argued that you couldn't call the Soviets 'communists' because they never actually achieved communism.

I can imagine the sort of conversation, must've been a lot of fun.
View original postThat is, his argument was that Arnold Schwarzenegger could not truthfully have claimed to have seen communism with his own eyes as a boy who traveled to the Soviet-occupied portions of his country, in the same way that, I suppose, someone from Denmark could not claim to have seen Nazism with their own eyes during the Nazi occupation of that country. Because the Soviets were Socialists, and never achieved Communism.

I'm a bit sceptical how seriously Schwarzenegger can claim to have personally witnessed communism in action, since the Russian occupation of parts of Austria ended, as I just looked up, a few days before his eighth birthday... and even while they were there, it wasn't like they held such power over their occupied territories that they could turn them communist. Not like the DDR. Initially I was going to answer he hadn't seen any Soviet occupation at all, we don't generally think of Austria as having seen any Soviet occupation after the war, but once I looked it up it did ring a bell.
View original postFor some people, beliefs about Socialism and Communism are consistent only in that they define the terms in whatever way is necessary to win today's point.

True.
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