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You do realize that is the single most anti-impeachment recent poll out there? Legolas Send a noteboard - 22/01/2020 06:19:18 PM

Gallup's 51-46 majority against removing Trump from office is the single largest majority against it out of the several dozen polls asking the same question over the same period - see link. Many show an equally large or larger majority in favour. Of course, since the margin of sampling error in Gallup's poll is +/- 4 percent, it doesn't prove that a majority is against even if you don't consider any other poll.

Bottom line: it's somewhere quite close to dead even and you can't tell for sure if a majority is for or against. Which anyway depends on how you phrase the question. So I find it somewhat ironic that you complain about the news not fairly reporting on this poll, when you've presented (quite possibly by accident) the most outlying poll out there and drawn a rather doubtful conclusion based on it about the majority of Americans.

As for his approval rating, there as well, if you look at the wider picture, it's not that clear if it has really increased. It's certainly still around the same level it's been all along. And if it has increased, who's to say it's on account of the impeachment and not, say, the deal with China?

What's scary, regardless of what party you favour, is the way polarization has reached the point where there's barely any distinction anymore between whether an American disapproves of a president and whether he wants him removed from office through impeachment. And barely any distinction anymore between whether he voted for a president and whether he disapproves of him. It has become all or nothing, all-out partisan war to the death. The Democrats were never going to convince any significant percentage of Trump supporters, regardless of how well they made their case or regardless of how flagrantly Trump violated his oath of office and the Constitution. His own example of murdering someone in broad daylight on a New York street might seriously be the minimum level required before a critical mass of his supporters starts to think twice about standing by him - and plenty would still do so even then.

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It was my understanding that there would be no math - 22/01/2020 03:53:05 PM 180 Views
You do realize that is the single most anti-impeachment recent poll out there? - 22/01/2020 06:19:18 PM 203 Views
Practical question - 23/01/2020 03:05:59 PM 156 Views
Not really, no. - 23/01/2020 07:23:58 PM 179 Views
Fivethirtyeight rates the polling of it a B. So it's credible. - 24/01/2020 02:07:19 PM 183 Views
So true - 24/01/2020 03:41:43 PM 159 Views
Sure it is, I didn't say it's an unreliable poll. Just that it's an outlier. - 24/01/2020 06:41:47 PM 172 Views
I agree with everything you replied with. - 24/01/2020 07:22:45 PM 173 Views
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I wonder what Pelosi has in mind for her endgame. - 22/01/2020 06:38:41 PM 175 Views
The Democrats already know they're going to lose 1 here in Alabama - 22/01/2020 06:58:00 PM 184 Views
I assume that's why he said 4. Otherwise 3 would do it, with a Dem VP. - 22/01/2020 07:26:04 PM 173 Views
I don't think that's what he meant. - 22/01/2020 07:32:20 PM 167 Views
Oh. Right. Assuming a Trump re-election, then - certainly plausible at this point. *NM* - 22/01/2020 07:38:37 PM 82 Views
Yes aerocontrols is right.. - 22/01/2020 08:39:49 PM 171 Views
That bump is, at least so far, purely hypothetical. - 22/01/2020 09:25:55 PM 182 Views
It's also 10 months away. Polls can change a lot in 10 months. *NM* - 22/01/2020 09:49:41 PM 79 Views
Your premise is full of shit - 23/01/2020 05:44:01 PM 192 Views
Er, yes, since you ask, I do include you among said 'rabid Trump fanboys'. - 23/01/2020 06:58:41 PM 178 Views
And I consider you a moron. Your point? *NM* - 23/01/2020 07:59:11 PM 99 Views
Clearly I don't have any point you're interested in hearing. - 23/01/2020 08:38:27 PM 172 Views
I mean, Roy Moore is running in this election again, as far as I'm aware. - 23/01/2020 03:41:57 AM 174 Views
Yeah, but it seems super unlikely, right? - 23/01/2020 03:11:06 PM 160 Views
Man I sincerely hope not, but Moore's sorta like a cold sore. - 23/01/2020 05:13:27 PM 159 Views
Surely this time, if Trump is also all-in against him, there's no way he wins the primary? *NM* - 23/01/2020 07:02:33 PM 88 Views
Surely, a pedophile won't win the nomination. - me a few years back *NM* - 24/01/2020 04:11:58 AM 87 Views
?! - 24/01/2020 12:35:28 PM 171 Views
Re: ?! *NM* - 24/01/2020 12:35:54 PM 83 Views
The login problem seems to be blocking attempts to edit posts - 24/01/2020 12:38:34 PM 162 Views
Apparently afterwards it was claimed that this was widely known in his hometown since the 80s... - 24/01/2020 06:07:15 PM 171 Views
That was the line Moore's voters used. - 24/01/2020 07:23:06 PM 166 Views
The parts he openly admitted to were questionable enough. - 24/01/2020 08:07:08 PM 171 Views

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