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Essentially only one seat was "stolen" The Shrike Send a noteboard - 05/10/2020 01:08:11 PM

If they are going to succeed before November 3rd, I'd rather they do. If they do it, and Biden wins, a stacked Supreme Court is the push the progressives need to get him to okay removing the filibuster, adding DC and PR as states, and to expand the court. I think that's a better long term strategy anyway.

Your strategy, even for a Biden voter like myself, seems extremist.

Democratic Senator Reed helped eliminate the filibuster on most judicial nominees in 2013.
Republican Senator McConnell finished the job and eliminated the filibuster on Supreme Court nominees in 2017.

I would rather see a group of moderate senators on both the Republican and Democratic side come together and return the filibuster to all nominees than to see what you propose above.

Besides, I wouldn't count PR as being solidly Democratic or even Washington D.C. as it gets whiter and less likely to vote Democratic. Not to mention that if you choose to go the route of expanding the Supreme Court to achieve some sort of ideological win, then when Republicans are next in power they too can enact all sorts of court packing schemes.

True reform needs to find a compromise rather than continued escalation. We need to draw back and explore ideas like term limits for Supreme Court justices. Removing the Senate from the confirmation role. 18 year terms so that each 4 years 1 new nominee goes on the Supreme Court. Things that will allow our democracy to flourish and our Supreme Court to not be viewed through a partisan lens.

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No, it is not by definition not logical. What definition of fear are you using? fionwe1987 - 08/10/2020 01:00:23 PM 270 Views
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