You keep saying Trump is the match that lit the fire, and that you don't get why people don't blame him. I fail to see how you can be confused. The specific grievance the mob was responding to was made up, whole cloth, by Trump and his enablers. If you've invested your last few months imagining that there was massive election fraud that denied your preferred candidate his victory, what has happened to change your mind?
No, right, I get that, but again; what does that have to do with Trump entreating a mob to assault the Capitol? And yes, I know you're fionwe, not entyti, but my point still stands. It is by no means double-think to say #1. Donald Trump had the election stolen from him. and #2. Donald Trump entreated a mob to assault the Capitol.
Donald Trump is inextricably tied to both issues, sure, but they're still different issues. This tying literally everything about the man together into one whole thing does nothing but make the issue worse. Whatever your beliefs about the legitimacy of the election should have no bearing on the fact that Donald Trump entreated a mob to assault the Capitol.
You can keep trying to excise Trump from the movement. But there just isn't any way to. The mob that attacked the Capitol is not some group of heroic citizens fighting a real injustice whom Trump just happened to incite. Their perceived injustice is the specific creation of Donald Trump, and his inability to comprehend that the majority of this country has had it with him and his polarizing, law breaking presidency. And that delusion seems alive and well in the discussion above, and so he'll continue to be the martyr this movement will continue to be beholden to.
Uh, I'm not entirely certain you meant this to me? I'm in no way trying to excise Trump from any of this, I agree the mob that attacked the Capitol was an armed mob who Trump himself summoned for reasons Trump himself made up apparently wholecloth, and I'm way past being done with Trump's shit. So again, was this paragraph even intended for me?
Maybe maybe maybe you meant what you said about killing members of Congress to get the changes you want in society as a joke. If so, it was incredibly poorly timed, and tone deaf.
But if not, I guess this is what it must feel like to go read an ISIS message board, full of self pity and justification for actual and planned for violence.
If force is not on the table when it comes to the government, the government can exercise force without repercussion. I am in no way encouraging an armed uprising against the government. What I am saying is that, if an armed uprising ever were required against the government, the changes being made, as a result of Donald Trump's actions in entreating a mob to attack the Capitol, will result in an even more bloody outcome than would have been necessary.
It's not a joke, it's not justification, it's neither encouragement nor self-pity or anything remotely resembling a plan, it's reality. And reality is sometimes bloody. And now, thanks to Donald Trump, that possible reality will be even more bloody.
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