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RJ not for dying, but instead for giving us books 7 to 10 (I never did 11) Roland00 Send a noteboard - 02/08/2021 07:10:33 PM

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Robert Jordan dragged out a series for commercial reasons and altered a major storyline when fans guessed it, leading to an uneven story, and then died before he could finish (due to his own slowing down of the series), leading to what most would consider was a lackluster (at best) ending.

Georgerr Martin can't seem to write anymore and let HBO finish his story for him in a slipshod and rushed fashion, poorly handling pacing and resolution for multiple story lines. He's also not in good health, doesn't seem interested in finishing the books at all and will likely die before finishing.

Which author let down his readers more?


So in sum my argument is better to leave things unfinished but provide a great ride, than a subpar product which feels like a waste of time *.

*We live in a world of culture abundance, so wasted is not just a lost of the time you invested, but is also a second loss you could have been doing something else during that time, such as another culture product, but also fun awesome "base" things like eating, drinking, sleeping, hanging with friends, cuddling, etc.

** You can reverse my argument that an unfinished series that you invested in is a waste of time, but I disagree. Good series change you via reading and thus this inward journey in my opinion is more important of what ends up doing what at the end of the story. But hey this is the realm of opinion so feel free to disagree. (In the end? Nothing ends, Adrian. Nothing ever ends. [unsettling disappearance into vapor] [vanity is vapor, just like Cain is vapor, it is all breath / "hebel." )

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I consider Game of Thrones the TV show a separate thing from ASOIAF, but season 8 (I stop watching with season 5, but I watched a third of Season 8,) is part of my argument. Book 7 of 10 of RJ is very similar to Season 8 of Game of Thrones which I witnessed, even though that TV show is adding a ++ to the badness scale.

And remember internet people ruin everything for Game of Thrones would not have been made without the Shibboleth of R+L=J in 2006. Martin had one thing to determine if a person who wanted to do the adaption was a friend or foe, if they could "get his work" and not make a mockery of it, and it was the Shibboleth that was bloody obvious by the first book. Well before that Santa Monica Boulevard "BRUNCH D&D went on internet boards like this one to prepare and there they learned the secret Shibboleth for fans were speculating about R+L=J after book 4 came out with AFFC (2005 and 2006.)

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Who has let readers down more, Robert Jordan or Georgerr Martin? - 01/08/2021 05:43:47 PM 496 Views
Martin - 01/08/2021 09:45:25 PM 176 Views
WRONG! Book 4 and 5 are Fabulous, and the prequels are more fun as individual stories - 02/08/2021 07:13:02 PM 171 Views
Bah - 02/08/2021 07:53:04 PM 164 Views
We Must Imagine Martin [ Happy ] ? - 02/08/2021 11:07:36 PM 152 Views
RJ not for dying, but instead for giving us books 7 to 10 (I never did 11) - 02/08/2021 07:10:33 PM 180 Views
If Jordan had died after Book VI and the series remained unfinished, it would have been better - 02/08/2021 08:02:11 PM 180 Views
We agree in a lot with this - 02/08/2021 11:06:26 PM 136 Views
I notice you also un-corrected my corrected "Georgerr Martin" - 04/08/2021 07:10:50 PM 249 Views
It annoyed me - 05/08/2021 01:58:03 AM 145 Views
Impossible for me to know - 02/08/2021 09:13:16 PM 165 Views
Very good point - 04/08/2021 06:46:14 PM 220 Views
Martin has definitely frustrated his fans and tested their patience far more... - 03/08/2021 09:05:21 PM 196 Views
"Not as strong of a finisher" may be the understatement of the year - 04/08/2021 06:48:03 PM 196 Views
another good point - 04/08/2021 06:58:32 PM 166 Views
I think Martin's problem is being a perfectionist. - 15/08/2021 01:01:03 PM 133 Views
Maybe if he were good at writing... *NM* - 16/08/2021 09:15:30 AM 157 Views
My vote is for GRRM. - 11/08/2021 12:57:37 AM 165 Views
Martin - 13/08/2021 02:09:19 AM 135 Views
Martin. I think he is a classic perfectionist. - 15/08/2021 12:59:23 PM 140 Views

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