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Part of the whole oaths thing Roland00 Send a noteboard - 28/10/2021 07:38:38 PM

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Particularly when the trailer goes on to show Moiraine throwing fireballs at Trollocks. So which Oath can she break? Lying, using the One Power as a weapon or all of the above? And how is this possible? Are they the Three Suggestions?

Part of the whole oaths thing is that they are suggestions not oaths, and part of the story is deconstructing them and teaching you an existentialist message at the end when it was originally presented as an essentialist one concerning essence. So many slippery loop holes once you understand the mechanics you will understand the oaths are mere fig leafs.

"Rule 2" To make no weapon with which one man may kill another
Warder cloaks with their pseudo invisibility are assassination weapons, likewise Ter'angreal are often deadly and can be used as things like bombs. Pretty much how you bypass rule 2 is pretend you are doing X when you channel and when the weave is tied you can now use the item to do Y.

"Rule 3" Never to use the One Power as a weapon except against Darkfriends or Shadowspawn, or in the last extreme defense of her life, the life of her Warder, or another Aes Sedai
White Tower novices are routinely "beaten" as discipline and that is the one power used as a weapon, but once again it is about visualization. If you can visualize a formal task not meant to main you get to do whatever you want with the one power. Likewise your imagination is your friend for if Egwene imagines Eladia to be a Dark Friend she gets to channel and try to blow up that Red Ajah member / Amyrlin seat.

Similar Situation, but when Egwene was Damane with the Adam Bracelet there was a similar limitation where if you think about using the Water Pitcher as a weapon you can't touch it at all, yet if you visualize it as a tool to pour water suddenly you can touch.


"Rule 1" To speak no word that is not true
So many ways to bypass this one that it is literally funny for Aes Sedais literally learn all the tricks and are purposefully taught this in the Blue Ajah. Likewise there is a cultural tradition where no one trusts an Aes Sedai even though they have this literal rule, it has "BACKFIRED" on the White Tower.

Likewise with the 3 Black Oaths, Verrin found a loophole about revealing the secrets of The Black Ajah

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A New WoT trailer dropped... - 27/10/2021 06:25:53 PM 695 Views
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No doubt... - 27/10/2021 10:58:16 PM 203 Views
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It's going to be the Woke of Time, you'll see *NM* - 28/10/2021 10:23:48 PM 90 Views
The video of Rafe Judkins commenting on the trailer is also worth watching. - 27/10/2021 09:19:11 PM 280 Views
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Trailers truncate. That's nothing new. *NM* - 28/10/2021 07:15:24 PM 94 Views
Part of the whole oaths thing - 28/10/2021 07:38:38 PM 288 Views
Ugh - 28/10/2021 09:11:57 PM 204 Views
True! - 28/10/2021 09:16:14 PM 212 Views
He also created the original 3 Oaths - 28/10/2021 09:28:30 PM 262 Views
Well... - 28/10/2021 09:31:19 PM 247 Views
Umm isn't the reason for the wording obvious? - 28/10/2021 10:01:39 PM 193 Views
Though clever, this explanation isn't very satisfying. - 29/10/2021 12:00:17 AM 215 Views
I don't think so - 29/10/2021 01:26:46 AM 189 Views
Yeah, that was silly... - 28/10/2021 07:50:47 PM 179 Views
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Don't forget the one they managed to hang. - 29/10/2021 02:38:46 AM 248 Views

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