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The Secret Service deleted texts from 6th Jan..now I wonder why... fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 19/07/2022 08:20:26 PM

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Trump lunging at a secret service officer, for one. The officer himself came out to say it never happened.


Did he now? Under oath, like Cassidy Hutchinson was? Because tweets have no obligation to be honest, so I'm not obliged to believe anything seen on Twitter. He's been invited to give his statement in a deposition, which he has refused to do...
But that doesn’t matter, right, because someone heard it did from Trump’s uncle’s hairdresser’s cousin’s dogwalker.

We now have a cop who says he saw the altercation, and evidence the Secret Service deleted texts from that day. So it would matter if it was true.
You call it a straw man but it’s not - it’s literally what you’re saying when you’re calling it an insurrection. That’s what an insurrection is you entire box of tools.

An insurrection is defined as "a violent uprising against an authority or government". Success or failure is immaterial to the definitely. Was there an uprising against the government that day? I don't see how not. Was there violence, both threatened and used? Yes, with massive quantities of photographic and videographic evidence. How's this not an insurrection again?
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Prosecute Trump? fionwe1987 - 14/07/2022 09:18:24 PM 827 Views
I would be surprised, but not shocked if there was an indictment. damookster - 14/07/2022 09:26:45 PM 474 Views
There is no way he's not running again in 2024. Dragonsoul - 14/07/2022 09:45:28 PM 645 Views
There's no way he agrees to not run fionwe1987 - 14/07/2022 09:46:55 PM 470 Views
I fear you are right. damookster - 14/07/2022 10:17:40 PM 469 Views
Let me sum up the case. Dragonsoul - 14/07/2022 09:44:20 PM 528 Views
Word vomit that is completely false and full of irrelevant asides is not a summary fionwe1987 - 14/07/2022 09:57:30 PM 501 Views
Lol parody account, you live in a dream world. Dragonsoul - 15/07/2022 02:20:09 PM 480 Views
Sure fionwe1987 - 15/07/2022 02:48:19 PM 515 Views
Parody account: face reality edition Dragonsoul - 15/07/2022 03:09:48 PM 503 Views
Broken record. Try another track. fionwe1987 - 15/07/2022 09:59:22 PM 455 Views
Take your own advice, parody account Dragonsoul - 16/07/2022 02:17:34 AM 470 Views
The Secret Service deleted texts from 6th Jan..now I wonder why... fionwe1987 - 19/07/2022 08:20:26 PM 491 Views
As part of a device replacement program. Dragonsoul - 19/07/2022 10:12:31 PM 507 Views
It's like you're on a sugar high fionwe1987 - 20/07/2022 04:50:29 AM 501 Views
This is an excellent point. damookster - 20/07/2022 05:05:27 AM 466 Views
Thanks! fionwe1987 - 20/07/2022 07:42:09 PM 486 Views
Re: It's like you're on a sugar high Dragonsoul - 21/07/2022 02:32:47 PM 509 Views
Take your own advice, parody account Dragonsoul - 16/07/2022 02:17:34 AM 477 Views
Ugh damookster - 14/07/2022 10:21:00 PM 465 Views
It's Trump's party, like it or not. Dragonsoul - 15/07/2022 02:12:02 PM 526 Views
No. It isn't. damookster - 15/07/2022 05:04:36 PM 475 Views
LOL okay. Dragonsoul - 15/07/2022 09:10:36 PM 501 Views
You are missing the entire fucking point. damookster - 16/07/2022 12:53:59 AM 506 Views
No, you are. Dragonsoul - 16/07/2022 02:13:57 AM 471 Views
As will the fact that being Italian born and living in Canada means you have no dog in this hunt. *NM* damookster - 16/07/2022 02:40:09 AM 254 Views
Live in the US now son. Dragonsoul - 16/07/2022 01:42:41 PM 467 Views
Agreed with Dragonsoul Roland00 - 16/07/2022 07:39:57 PM 475 Views
Re: Agreed with Dragonsoul Dragonsoul - 17/07/2022 05:43:21 AM 502 Views
Re: Agreed with Dragonsoul Dragonsoul - 17/07/2022 05:43:23 AM 466 Views
That's not entirely fair AgentApple - 15/07/2022 01:10:25 PM 460 Views
Yeah, it's a tough one. Legolas - 14/07/2022 10:22:06 PM 517 Views
Yeah exactly fionwe1987 - 15/07/2022 12:12:19 AM 493 Views
Why are they calling it an insurrection, not a riot ? AgentApple - 15/07/2022 09:43:09 AM 475 Views
Because if they call it a riot they have no way of trying to scare average Americans from voting Dragonsoul - 15/07/2022 02:25:22 PM 502 Views
Because there was a plan of action and they're laying out that evidence. fionwe1987 - 15/07/2022 02:41:42 PM 481 Views
Regarding the elections... Legolas - 15/07/2022 07:28:07 PM 550 Views
as always, damookster - 15/07/2022 08:34:45 PM 482 Views
Voter ID fionwe1987 - 15/07/2022 10:10:24 PM 522 Views
damookster - 16/07/2022 12:32:06 AM 503 Views
Oh please! fionwe1987 - 16/07/2022 01:16:43 AM 496 Views
Ha! damookster - 16/07/2022 01:51:08 AM 459 Views
I think what separates us is less policy than belief in the health of the Republican Party fionwe1987 - 19/07/2022 03:44:01 PM 514 Views
Have you read the "Stop the Steal" article from the NYT magazine? damookster - 19/07/2022 06:57:24 PM 482 Views
I'd saved it for later. Half way through it now... fionwe1987 - 20/07/2022 07:40:48 PM 475 Views
(Not elite stuff) but Part of it goes back to the 80s and the militia movement Roland00 - 21/07/2022 06:58:33 AM 463 Views
I derive some comfort from the fact that I have never voted for Trump. damookster - 21/07/2022 08:57:33 PM 479 Views
This is the single most reasonable thing I've ever read from you. *NM* Narg - 18/07/2022 06:08:35 PM 278 Views
You think Trump should have been removed from office over Ukraine? Tom - 21/07/2022 02:44:40 PM 472 Views
I share your concerns around indicting Trump damookster - 21/07/2022 08:44:20 PM 445 Views
I was actually talking about the other impeachment - hard to keep track, I know. Legolas - 23/07/2022 10:50:57 PM 469 Views
To Go Baroque here Roland00 - 15/07/2022 07:32:27 PM 483 Views
One last thing Roland00 - 15/07/2022 07:38:04 PM 450 Views
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