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Not nearly as confused as Biden is, I dare say. Legolas Send a noteboard - 06/09/2022 10:28:34 PM

View original post"MAGA forces are determined to take this country backwards, backwards to an America where there is no right to choose, no right to privacy, no right to contraception, no right to marry who you love. They promote authoritarian leaders, and they fanned the flames of political violence that are a threat to our personal rights, to the pursuit of justice, to the rule of law, to the very soul of this country."

That first sentence in particular sounds like the kind of stupid shit you often get from European foreign correspondents describing the US for their home audiences - except now it's coming from the actual president? That's pretty concerning.

I don't think there are many people who believe Trump actually gives a flying fuck about whether women get abortions or not, seeing how he's not a woman - and seeing how he's parroted pro-choice arguments just as easily at times when that was more convenient to him. And there isn't necessarily much correlation between how strongly pro-life someone is, and how inclined to drink the MAGA kool-aid. What's for certain is that Republicans have been trying to overturn Roe v Wade since the day it was decided, and with especial fervour at least since the times of Reagan - it has nothing at all to do with Trump or with MAGA.

Which makes the second sentence, valid enough and in fact very important as a stand-alone statement, sound entirely vapid and self-serving.

View original postDoes he actually believe these statements? Are Great Grandpa Joe and his Party truthfully concerned that MAGA Republicans pose a significant threat to the continued existence of our government? Because if so, how can you possible justify the fact that Democrats across this country are marshaling support for these very MAGA Republicans when they find themselves in primaries or runoff elections against those mainstream Republicans Biden mentions? If these candidates are that dangerous to the nation, why support them and risk they gain office? On the other hand, if they will be so much easier for Democrats to defeat than their mainstream opponents, then isn't the premise of the speech complete and utter bullshit? MAGA is no threat at all. Hell, the DNC apparently welcomes running against them.

Yeah. Of course these tactics are directly caused by the shitty political system of the US, but even so, there are limits as to how dirty you would go in the primaries if you actually believe the future of the nation is truly at risk. As Adam Kinzinger said - don't run crying to him afterwards about where the good Republicans have gone.

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