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Not sure I agree entyti Send a noteboard - 22/07/2024 10:19:42 PM

one can make a case for the 2020 and 2021 Liz Cheney lead investigation , with the “Jan 6th Committee”

one can make the case for Merrick Garland being Attorney General

one can make the case for August 2022 search warrant w/ classified documents at Trump's Mar-a-Lago home by the FBI.

one can make the case for November 2022 , AG Merrick Garland appointing Jack Smith to do the investigation so it would be independent.

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but if the goal was to prevent Trump from running in 2024 , these 4 things together made that strategy utterly STUPID, you had a limited time window and by Nov 2022 it was already too late for Trump was going to announce after the midterms (he announced the 15th of November 2022)

And any court case (after the investigation) was going to take years, with automatic delays.

And by allowing Congress and Liz Cheney to do January 6th investigations you could not really prosecute him for that, not in a legal, but in a practical investigation matter for the Fed Justice Dept and Congress investigating would have conflicts of interest with turf, subpoenas, witness testimony, etc.

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So I repeat if this was their strategy, they were bad at implementing it. They had to choose and act immediately in 2021 and we were already having multiple crisies and lack of faith in the system at that time.


Not sure if I agree, but maybe I'm not picking up what you're laying down. Are you implying that the points you highlighted, if intended to bar trump from running for reelection, would not have played out the way that they did?

To that I would say that there are several approaches to this. One option would be to force him off the ticket directly. January 6 would be the best option for that, as an act of insurrection would not allow him to rerun. However, unfortunately for them, this would be a difficult thing to prove, as contesting elections is a time-honored tradition, and his words on that day were not an incitement to violence or insurrection. So if they went all-in on that and failed, they're out of the game.

Another option would be to discourage him through legal measures, bankrupting him, character assassination, and just throwing roadblocks at every turn. This would be the path I am suggesting that they've chosen to go. It doesn't put all of your chips on one play, so you can build a multi-front attack. And drawing it out would be a benefit with this tactic, as it keeps the news relevant, so the mudslinging doesn't get stale. And whether they can topple his support or just discourage him though pressure and time, it would have the intended result.

And I don't think it's a bad tactic at all, and would probably have worked under normal circumstances.

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