Active Users:963 Time:23/02/2026 06:19:47 AM
And why don't you care? Is it because you feel your job is not threatened? The Shrike Send a noteboard - 24/07/2024 11:16:43 AM

It is about how illegal immigrants depress wages at the lowest economic tiers. The jobs that they fill, many supporters will say, are those that native born Americans do not want. But at the right hourly wage, they would. And yes, I know, that would lead to inflation. There is a reason that someone like Bernie Sanders is strongly against illegal immigration. From the NYT article I link to

When workers are scarce, companies are more likely to hire people without much experience or formal education, and to provide training to help those employees succeed. Employers are also more likely to consider candidates with disabilities, criminal records or other barriers to work and to offer other options, like flexible hours, to attract people with caregiving responsibilities.

Companies are also more likely to raise pay. Wage growth, which was sluggish for much of the recovery, has picked up in recent years, with the strongest gains among workers at the bottom of the earnings ladder, in jobs that are often concentrated in the service sector, like fast food and retail.

And so Trump, with his nativist policies, reduced immigration, no illegal immigration, strong borders, etc, appeals to many black men who understand that their economic conditions were better under Trump than they are under Biden.

The solution to me is clear - place the burden on hiring and verifying using something like eVerify in whatever true compromise immigration bill ever gets passed. As well as reforming our asylum laws and either building that Wall/paying Mexico to stop people flowing north at their border with Guatemala/Belize.

From an economic standpoint, the illegal immigrants are depressing wages - but at the lowest tier. Not at the level of lawyers or data analysts. AKA us.

Or if I want to use another example from Boston - a local community center in a predominantly black Boston neighborhood was being used to house illegal immigrants and the reaction to them was not positive

https://www.wbur.org/news/2024/02/02/politics-healey-wu-shelter-roxbury-migrants-melnea-cass-recreation-center



link
Reply to message
So, why exactly has Biden bowed out of the election? - 22/07/2024 01:25:22 PM 569 Views
His elite stronghold turned against him. That's why. - 22/07/2024 04:19:15 PM 262 Views
Re: His elite stronghold turned against him. That's why. - 22/07/2024 04:35:54 PM 229 Views
The deal he probably made was to serve out his term - 22/07/2024 04:53:04 PM 270 Views
Re: The deal he probably made was to serve out his term - 22/07/2024 05:13:05 PM 252 Views
He got a vote of no confidence, like a parliamentary system - 22/07/2024 04:34:16 PM 252 Views
Re: He got a vote of no confidence, like a parliamentary system - 22/07/2024 04:39:05 PM 240 Views
Some people wished for this in Oct 2016 - 22/07/2024 04:59:34 PM 224 Views
Re: Some people wished for this in Oct 2016 - 22/07/2024 05:15:33 PM 227 Views
Five Elections for President with me - 22/07/2024 05:49:05 PM 224 Views
Because his incapacity to serve is obvious to everyone - 22/07/2024 05:33:56 PM 269 Views
. - 22/07/2024 05:35:09 PM 254 Views
of course all that is true - 22/07/2024 05:43:05 PM 229 Views
No - 22/07/2024 05:58:01 PM 233 Views
Harris is raking in boatloads of money. - 23/07/2024 03:39:34 AM 224 Views
A fool and his money are soon parted - 23/07/2024 10:40:09 AM 227 Views
I think we must live in very different worlds. - 23/07/2024 02:46:01 PM 247 Views
~shrugs~ - 23/07/2024 04:07:13 PM 213 Views
Oh, Trump absolutely can win. It's going to be hard! - 23/07/2024 10:06:45 PM 209 Views
Re: Oh, Trump absolutely can win. It's going to be hard! - 23/07/2024 10:43:52 PM 230 Views
I'm sorry, but - 24/07/2024 12:12:42 AM 222 Views
We probably do - 23/07/2024 11:53:17 PM 218 Views
Re: We probably do - 24/07/2024 12:12:10 AM 371 Views
Ah but you have people like me who supported Clinton in 2016 and Biden in 2020 - 24/07/2024 12:19:33 AM 225 Views
For my part, I have no issues with Harris' failure on the border, because I don't care about it. - 24/07/2024 07:28:55 AM 231 Views
And why don't you care? Is it because you feel your job is not threatened? - 24/07/2024 11:16:43 AM 272 Views
I just don't subscribe to nativist ideology. - 24/07/2024 05:51:26 PM 231 Views
Fair. - 24/07/2024 06:10:49 PM 227 Views
So does the government prosecute the rape of children , who are illegal ? - 24/07/2024 08:21:18 PM 220 Views
I am glad to see you in the pocket of big business *NM* - 24/07/2024 10:54:02 PM 110 Views
Really? Those are your arguments, still? - 24/07/2024 06:35:58 PM 240 Views
Yes - 24/07/2024 08:17:27 PM 268 Views
Another interesting question - 22/07/2024 05:37:46 PM 259 Views
My take... - 22/07/2024 05:59:21 PM 262 Views
If that is their strategy, they were bad at implementing it - 22/07/2024 06:22:36 PM 234 Views
Not sure I agree - 22/07/2024 10:19:42 PM 240 Views
turnabout - 22/07/2024 10:46:44 PM 228 Views
I am not a mind reader, but I feel lied to with someone’s words vs their deeds - 23/07/2024 02:10:49 AM 250 Views
Sorry, but isn't that, like... all of politics? - 24/07/2024 07:41:33 PM 238 Views
Hear, hear! - 24/07/2024 07:59:13 PM 232 Views
short answer , I am not a fan of politicians , does that clear things up - 24/07/2024 08:23:51 PM 248 Views
Would you be surprised...? - 24/07/2024 08:47:52 PM 253 Views
Re: Would you be surprised...? - 24/07/2024 08:58:33 PM 221 Views
Oh we are on much the same page - 24/07/2024 08:59:26 PM 236 Views
I feel better now, thanks - 24/07/2024 10:11:52 PM 235 Views

Reply to Message