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That's rather easier said than done though. Legolas Send a noteboard - 31/05/2025 08:12:34 PM

View original postIt's been confirmed that Mazrim Taim was supposed to be Demandred, but Jordan threw a tantrum like a five year old because everyone figured out what he naively thought was less obvious than it was.

Heh. That is childish indeed, though it wouldn't have made that much difference to the plot of the later books as far as I can see... excepting some very last minute shenanigans with the Sharans, if I remember the name right, Demandred was still mostly concerned with the Black Tower anyway even if he was a separate person from Taim.
View original postIf you really want to do Wheel of Time justice, you have to shit can everything after Lord of Chaos, the last fairly decent book in the series, and write 3 - and only 3 - books of Lord of Chaos length that finishes the series without all the superfluous horse names, interminably long "Faile is a prisoner of the Shaido" chapters, and make Mazrim Taim Demandred. THAT would be worth reading, if the right author could be persuaded. He could take chunks of what Jordan did write and then redo the Sanderson parts.

Think about it though, how many epic fantasy series of a scope remotely comparable to WoT do you know that were finished within the intended timeframe and without a serious drop in quality? The Malazan series, maybe, though some will argue about the quality, but that one had a different approach where it was never really telling a single story with a clear beginning and end anyway, so much easier to stop at any given point. Not many others.

It's much, much more difficult to satisfactorily conclude a series of that nature than to start it up, as we've also seen with Song of Ice and Fire, or as I already mentioned in an earlier reply writers like Rothfuss and Lynch who had immensely successful starts of series, twenty years ago, but are still stuck even today and probably won't ever finish them.

Of course there's tons of completed fantasy series with no obvious drop in quality, starting with LotR, but those are generally either shorter series with fewer main characters and plotlines, or longer series with a succession of shorter story arcs or even stand-alone books, rather than one huge epic arc.

In other words, what you say may make sense in theory, but in practice I'm not convinced there is anybody that could've done that.

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Jordan knew he was going to pass away for quite a while..... - 26/05/2025 02:31:32 AM 518 Views
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even I knew to start with Gideon *NM* - 26/05/2025 11:11:18 PM 183 Views
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And FYI..... - 26/05/2025 02:34:43 AM 501 Views
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I knew I'd find a kindred spirit in you, at least. - 28/05/2025 05:18:07 AM 471 Views
You would have to go back and fix the problems Jordan himself created - 30/05/2025 02:42:20 AM 499 Views
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That's rather easier said than done though. - 31/05/2025 08:12:34 PM 506 Views
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