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Re: Obviously we don't have time for this Today, just keep in mind for Tomorrow. ranagrande Send a noteboard - 23/04/2010 02:47:15 AM
Let's take those masons for example. What are we going to do, tell them what to talk about at night?
That's hardly the most useful thing about Masons. Masons (AFAIK) are confirmed townies. By throwing that out in the open, those player would not accidentally be lynched, investigated, vigged, etc.
As Gher said, masons are not necessarily confirmed townies. There have been some pure-town exceptions, but most mason groups in games here have contained darkfriends.

Sure, we could have arranged to have the doctor protect the cop. However, since that person would also be known, we would essentially get one good investigation in exchange for a dead doctor. The cop would then be picked off the following night anyway, ensuring that the one investigation is all that we would get.
So what? By the time the DFs can make two kills, there is a good chance at least one will be caught (if everyone is roled, and that information is shared each day). IF EVERYONE IS ROLED, what's the big deal if we lose 1 or 2? Besides, roles usually don't make the difference in winning or losing for town. Or at least, they shouldn't.
I just don't think sharing information in this way will make us more likely to catch darkfriends. Information is the primary weapon in Mafia, and its edge is dulled a bit if everyone has it before it can be applied.

Losing one or two roles isn't really a big deal. We've lost more than that already, and I still think we're ok. The problem with your scenario is that we will inevitably lose the best and strongest roles we have, and we will lose them immediately.

Maybe you're right that roles shouldn't make a difference in winning or losing, but in my experience at least, they do.

Having everyone announce their roles is a bad idea. Publicly broadcasting our plans for what those people should do with their roles is an even worse idea.
>No. Anyone who would deviate from the plan would only be a DF or other anti-town player.
Deviation isn't the problem that I foresee. If the darkfriends know what night actions are planned for the town, they can take steps to prevent or counter them. If, indeed, everyone in this game is roled, it would be foolish and dangerous to assume that the darkfriends do not also have additional rolepowers to use.

We have nothing to gain from a mass roleclaim at this point in the game, and a great deal to lose. Many people already find you suspicious, and your continuing attempts to make this happen are definitely not helping.
>I'm just pointing out the benefits of mass roleclaim IF EVERYONE IS ROLED. Which was the assumption advanced by F-T, then backed up by Gher.
And I'm just pointing out that those benefits, if they even do exist, come with an immensely huge downside.

Think about how much information is lost by not sharing, as those roled players die off each night.

Normally massclaming this early is a no-no, but that's because the DFs have a greater chance of killing off vanillas (who provide the town with no Night information) than roles. So no loss of information to the town if those players get night killed. But if everyone is roled, we'll lose a lot of information by the time endgame and massclaim are usually done.
The same thing still applies. Even if we don't have vanillas, it would be better to lose a mason, for example, than a cop or a doctor.

I'm usually against mass roleclaims at any time, but I am especially against this one now.
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Game 16, Day 2: In the Manor of Mad Muad (Ended) - 09/04/2010 06:59:52 PM 4232 Views
Official Vote Count - Fox and Ravens has been lynched - 09/04/2010 07:01:43 PM 1603 Views
Chair and Advocate Vote Record - 09/04/2010 07:02:19 PM 1307 Views
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Inactivity Tracker - VNTL: 7 - 09/04/2010 08:10:05 PM 1316 Views
Beetnemesis- Active *NM* - 09/04/2010 11:30:39 PM 766 Views
White Flame- semiRBIRL *NM* - 10/04/2010 04:02:44 AM 756 Views
BlackAdder: Active! *NM* - 10/04/2010 04:04:36 AM 774 Views
Fox and Ravens - active *NM* - 10/04/2010 04:21:54 AM 790 Views
Bergioyn - Active *NM* - 10/04/2010 08:34:13 AM 846 Views
Gher: Active *NM* - 10/04/2010 07:22:16 PM 784 Views
Amys: Active but with limited computer access *NM* - 10/04/2010 08:35:04 PM 749 Views
Darth_Katie: Semi-RBIRL *NM* - 11/04/2010 03:36:00 AM 799 Views
Re: Darth_Katie: RBIRL *NM* - 21/04/2010 05:31:42 AM 824 Views
RBIRL for realsies. - 21/04/2010 05:34:51 AM 1154 Views
Wait... what? - 09/04/2010 11:36:10 PM 1201 Views
OK, I think I see. - 09/04/2010 11:40:28 PM 1122 Views
ta for simplifying, it all makes sence now *NM* - 09/04/2010 11:55:24 PM 757 Views
Re: OK, I think I see. - 10/04/2010 12:12:47 AM 1282 Views
Sounds good. With that said... - 10/04/2010 01:47:17 AM 1010 Views
Re: Sounds good. With that said... - 10/04/2010 09:58:41 AM 1236 Views
Good point - 10/04/2010 11:52:13 AM 1122 Views
Hm. So, FT- did you do anything to inform us that you were the cop? - 10/04/2010 01:52:23 AM 1127 Views
He's not supposed to talk about this previous role - 10/04/2010 01:56:41 AM 1164 Views
Whoops. I meant *NOW* the Andoran Merchant - 10/04/2010 04:15:37 AM 1114 Views
I am the wealthy Andoran merchant. - 10/04/2010 04:34:57 AM 1157 Views
Wow... - 10/04/2010 01:54:05 AM 1222 Views
Re: Wow... - 10/04/2010 03:03:21 AM 1164 Views
Well I can't speak for BlackAdder... - 10/04/2010 07:37:15 AM 1129 Views
Re: Well I can't speak for BlackAdder... - 10/04/2010 09:28:02 PM 1175 Views
Re: Wow... - 10/04/2010 03:03:21 AM 1025 Views
EBWOP - sorry double post *NM* - 10/04/2010 03:03:48 AM 742 Views
Why were those two killed? - 10/04/2010 03:12:49 AM 1090 Views
It's pretty obvious why Hobo was killed after Blaine was found to be a Mason. - 10/04/2010 03:51:17 AM 1203 Views
Re: It's pretty obvious why Hobo was killed after Blaine was found to be a Mason. - 10/04/2010 04:20:37 AM 1063 Views
Well, he was revealed to be a Whitecloak, with a tacked-on ability - 10/04/2010 04:29:34 AM 1025 Views
Re: Well, he was revealed to be a Whitecloak, with a tacked-on ability - 10/04/2010 05:15:45 AM 1156 Views
Re: Well, he was revealed to be a Whitecloak, with a tacked-on ability - 10/04/2010 05:23:51 AM 1148 Views
Re: Well, he was revealed to be a Whitecloak, with a tacked-on ability - 10/04/2010 05:27:49 AM 1218 Views
Re: Well, he was revealed to be a Whitecloak, with a tacked-on ability - 10/04/2010 05:44:59 AM 1128 Views
Careful, that's been Beetnemesis' strategy the past few games. Doesn't work so well *NM* - 10/04/2010 07:14:55 PM 696 Views
Bah! *NM* - 10/04/2010 11:23:05 PM 771 Views
Explain? *NM* - 11/04/2010 01:01:59 AM 763 Views
He got the entire town against him by digging himself a deeper and deeper hole. - 11/04/2010 01:40:46 AM 1099 Views
He'd still be a Mason even if he could talk at night - 10/04/2010 04:40:32 AM 1087 Views
"... even if he COULDN'T talk at night" that is. - 10/04/2010 04:41:12 AM 1205 Views
Two main venues of inquiry: - 10/04/2010 05:12:46 AM 1195 Views
Re: Two main venues of inquiry: - 10/04/2010 05:25:43 AM 1090 Views
I'm curious if he is really worth keeping around - 10/04/2010 05:34:50 AM 1110 Views
I certainly oppose a roleclaim at this point... - 10/04/2010 05:42:55 AM 1122 Views
Yes, but - 10/04/2010 05:56:32 AM 1132 Views
Meh, I'd expect him to tell us if we were wrong... - 10/04/2010 06:09:13 AM 1113 Views
Only if he were pro-Light. - 10/04/2010 06:23:01 AM 994 Views
Actually, screw this. - 10/04/2010 06:32:30 AM 1124 Views
Flavor in Hobo's death scene. - 10/04/2010 08:13:03 AM 1111 Views
first off - 10/04/2010 11:25:23 AM 1037 Views
Re: first off - 10/04/2010 11:59:27 AM 1053 Views
one possiblity - 10/04/2010 03:36:06 PM 1016 Views
The Janitor role prevents us from finding out the victims role and affiliation though. - 10/04/2010 07:20:16 PM 1113 Views
hmmmn - 10/04/2010 10:29:14 PM 1093 Views
Let's try to find out reasons why the body was hidden - 11/04/2010 06:53:23 PM 1120 Views
It was probably balefire - 11/04/2010 07:08:55 PM 1004 Views
It could be important. - 12/04/2010 01:56:12 AM 889 Views
People know balefire - 10/04/2010 05:49:19 PM 1142 Views
Also, twilight and dawn scenes - 10/04/2010 08:27:55 AM 1220 Views
You got twilight AND dawn? Fancy. - 10/04/2010 06:01:44 PM 1120 Views
I'm guessing it had to do with me being the hammer vote on Blaine. - 11/04/2010 12:44:09 AM 1058 Views
I think we should hypocop, in any case - 10/04/2010 08:14:52 PM 1158 Views
IF YOU ARE NOT THE COP: - 10/04/2010 08:29:50 PM 1061 Views
I really think this is completely unnecessary. - 10/04/2010 09:20:46 PM 1172 Views
Hrm... - 10/04/2010 11:08:44 PM 1210 Views
Re: Hrm... - 11/04/2010 01:53:18 AM 1124 Views
FT doesn't know the results of the investigation- the deputy may - 10/04/2010 11:30:26 PM 1056 Views
Re: FT doesn't know the results of the investigation- the deputy may - 11/04/2010 01:44:01 AM 1273 Views
Fair enough. Those can be misleading, anyway - 11/04/2010 01:48:55 AM 1057 Views
How could this possibly do us harm? - 11/04/2010 05:18:55 PM 1075 Views
All I'm saying is the possibilty is there. *NM* - 11/04/2010 06:56:20 PM 690 Views
Where? *NM* - 12/04/2010 04:13:05 PM 720 Views
If somebody takes the investigation as truth when it's not *NM* - 12/04/2010 04:32:25 PM 617 Views
Hypocop table- Night One [Table] - 10/04/2010 08:19:21 PM 1181 Views
I found Bergioyn to be Innocent *NM* - 10/04/2010 08:20:02 PM 691 Views
I found beetnemesis to be innocent. *NM* - 10/04/2010 08:30:16 PM 729 Views
I found Talic to be innocent. *NM* - 10/04/2010 08:34:07 PM 724 Views
I found Talic to be guilty *NM* - 10/04/2010 08:53:45 PM 810 Views
I found Amys to be innocent. *NM* - 10/04/2010 09:03:51 PM 729 Views
There's really no reason for me to be on that list, you know. - 10/04/2010 09:55:41 PM 1035 Views
i found Artsapat to be guilty *NM* - 10/04/2010 10:33:21 PM 757 Views
I found Talic to be innocent. *NM* - 10/04/2010 11:10:19 PM 679 Views
I found Amys to be innocent *NM* - 11/04/2010 01:56:14 AM 705 Views
I found Artsapat innocent. *NM* - 11/04/2010 04:03:51 AM 736 Views
I found Napoleon62 to be guilty *NM* - 11/04/2010 07:04:13 PM 740 Views
Isaac: quick clarification. - 11/04/2010 07:15:58 PM 1094 Views
Yes *NM* - 11/04/2010 07:25:46 PM 676 Views
Is he a man or woman? - 12/04/2010 01:24:37 AM 1064 Views
I found Talic to be for the Light *NM* - 11/04/2010 09:44:20 PM 702 Views
I found Fox to be guilty *NM* - 12/04/2010 12:50:51 AM 691 Views
I found White Flame innocent *NM* - 14/04/2010 05:30:49 AM 632 Views
Chair Vote: ranagrande - 10/04/2010 11:14:56 PM 1043 Views
Re: Chair Vote: ranagrande - 10/04/2010 11:31:07 PM 1021 Views
I think it's because no one really has a feel for the roles, yet Advocate Vote: beetnemesis - 10/04/2010 11:38:56 PM 1127 Views
I need someone else to vote against you with. - 11/04/2010 12:54:56 AM 989 Views
Anything specific? - 11/04/2010 01:47:48 AM 1104 Views
If only because the role is mostly useless - 11/04/2010 01:08:19 AM 1086 Views
Where are all the people who used the "it's Day 1" excuse to not talk yesterday? - 11/04/2010 12:52:27 AM 1106 Views
Re: Where are all the people who used the "it's Day 1" excuse to not talk yesterday? - 11/04/2010 01:59:01 AM 974 Views
Psst: Bergoiyn's a dude. *NM* - 11/04/2010 04:11:38 AM 759 Views
My bad *NM* - 11/04/2010 06:31:22 PM 735 Views
Was this just a mix up, or didn't you know? *NM* - 11/04/2010 08:45:11 PM 636 Views
I think it was just a mixup. Not really sure what I was thinking. *NM* - 11/04/2010 09:47:51 PM 702 Views
ahhh noobs - 11/04/2010 02:14:26 AM 1092 Views
Of course, but it hardly takes much time to read/post. *NM* - 11/04/2010 06:12:32 AM 1120 Views
Re: ahhh noobs - 12/04/2010 02:51:33 PM 1035 Views
Re: ahhh noobs - 12/04/2010 04:54:26 PM 1075 Views
Re: ahhh noobs - 12/04/2010 05:56:22 PM 1218 Views
Do you want to explain what I did to make you so suspicious? - 11/04/2010 04:09:51 AM 1034 Views
I didn't use "Day 1 excuse". I've been sick, and really haven't got the energy to do anything. - 11/04/2010 10:16:10 AM 1047 Views
That's fine - 11/04/2010 11:19:46 AM 1143 Views
Hmm. - 11/04/2010 12:53:43 AM 1183 Views
Hm? - 11/04/2010 12:56:20 AM 1025 Views
Ah, yes. - 11/04/2010 02:37:24 AM 1298 Views
It's legal - 11/04/2010 03:00:56 AM 992 Views
Is that a vote, or just a suggestion? *NM* - 11/04/2010 01:03:31 AM 729 Views
Well, he phrased it as a vote, so it's a vote - 11/04/2010 01:51:27 AM 1096 Views
<b>Chair Vote: Gher</b> *NM* - 12/04/2010 02:01:09 AM 692 Views
EBWOP - 12/04/2010 02:03:05 AM 1151 Views
Just so you know, I would have taken that - 12/04/2010 02:17:59 AM 1120 Views
Player analysis - 11/04/2010 07:09:58 AM 1077 Views
fistofpainx - 11/04/2010 07:13:17 AM 1133 Views
So, any suspicions? - 11/04/2010 03:15:53 PM 1083 Views
Here's my take on Talic: - 11/04/2010 07:13:58 PM 1045 Views
Let's rip out mine - 11/04/2010 07:18:38 PM 1035 Views
Yesterday you said you trusted White Flame - 11/04/2010 07:31:20 PM 1100 Views
Re: Yesterday you said you trusted White Flame - 11/04/2010 08:29:13 PM 1189 Views
That's actually quite good point. *NM* - 11/04/2010 08:41:26 PM 715 Views
Well, from what I can gather... - 11/04/2010 08:49:14 PM 1195 Views
Oddly enough, I said something similar yesterday - 12/04/2010 08:00:17 AM 1103 Views
As I mentioned above, I'm suspicious of Fox - 11/04/2010 10:54:48 PM 1134 Views
Re: As I mentioned above, I'm suspicious of Fox - 11/04/2010 11:08:26 PM 1115 Views
You may think your actions are justified - 11/04/2010 11:44:47 PM 1050 Views
I dunno - 11/04/2010 11:37:44 PM 1100 Views
Advocate Vote: beetnemesis | Chair Vote: Gher *NM* - 11/04/2010 05:26:39 PM 582 Views
Advocate Vote: beetnemesis | Chair Vote: Gher - 11/04/2010 07:24:55 PM 1561 Views
I approve of everyone giving me power - 11/04/2010 07:32:35 PM 1100 Views
Best thing to go off of now, I suppose. - 11/04/2010 09:50:08 PM 1159 Views
I still don't want beet having power. But Chair Vote: Gher is acceptable. *NM* - 11/04/2010 11:26:46 PM 717 Views
Maybe I wasn't paying attention ... - 12/04/2010 01:32:51 AM 970 Views
Sheer animal magnetism - 12/04/2010 08:21:14 AM 1135 Views
Obviously, of course. - 12/04/2010 12:24:47 PM 1162 Views
In that case - 12/04/2010 02:08:47 PM 966 Views
What Beet said - 12/04/2010 04:11:26 PM 1120 Views
Okay, thanks. *NM* - 13/04/2010 12:20:57 AM 704 Views
Finally here - 11/04/2010 09:52:46 PM 1113 Views
110 new posts later.... - 12/04/2010 12:49:51 AM 1139 Views
Re: 110 new posts later.... - 12/04/2010 01:49:46 AM 1127 Views
This last bit is honestly the part that might convince me - 12/04/2010 08:17:55 AM 1200 Views
Oh! And the hypocopping thing! I don't know what was up with that. - 12/04/2010 08:20:22 AM 1107 Views
That's the one that bugs me the most. - 12/04/2010 04:06:31 PM 1100 Views
Wait, are you suspicious of Fox or not? - 13/04/2010 12:35:07 AM 1121 Views
Yes, I am. - 13/04/2010 01:41:00 AM 1174 Views
Re: Yes, I am. - 13/04/2010 05:29:27 AM 1098 Views
A quick argument for why there's likely still some type of cop - 13/04/2010 08:01:24 AM 1023 Views
Re: A quick argument for why there's likely still some type of cop - 13/04/2010 09:39:31 AM 1088 Views
I disagree with the "F-T hid it" theory. - 13/04/2010 09:53:46 AM 989 Views
That would be hilarious though. - 13/04/2010 09:59:06 AM 1045 Views
It would be - 13/04/2010 04:11:41 PM 1093 Views
My point was, storywise, we wouldn't KNOW if the darkfriends were killed - 14/04/2010 04:12:49 AM 1150 Views
Yeah, but storywise... - 14/04/2010 05:27:05 AM 1076 Views
Yeah, that bugs me too - 14/04/2010 07:00:08 AM 961 Views
Need to correct you on your terminology. - 14/04/2010 12:35:34 PM 986 Views
Hm... Point *NM* - 14/04/2010 04:51:13 PM 737 Views
We can agree on all of your points, but it only argues in favor of Fox's reasoning. *NM* - 13/04/2010 09:48:39 AM 737 Views
That's because my reasoning makes sense. - 13/04/2010 08:36:13 PM 923 Views
I think you've been acting weird, if not neccessarily Dark - 14/04/2010 01:57:41 AM 1089 Views
Here's my thoughts on the cop situation - 13/04/2010 08:42:24 PM 1143 Views
Re: Yes, I am. - 13/04/2010 07:35:54 AM 960 Views
Here's the deal with hypocopping: - 13/04/2010 07:54:36 AM 1141 Views
What do events have to do with it? - 13/04/2010 10:01:28 AM 1134 Views
Because "Events" obviously don't conform to standard rules - 14/04/2010 01:55:22 AM 1025 Views
Hypocopping isn't foolproof. - 13/04/2010 10:08:32 PM 1005 Views
Re: Oh! And the hypocopping thing! I don't know what was up with that. - 12/04/2010 04:08:10 PM 1029 Views
Yeah but so what? - 12/04/2010 04:16:00 PM 925 Views
Re: Yeah but so what? - 12/04/2010 04:23:28 PM 1001 Views
Re: 110 new posts later.... - 12/04/2010 06:51:14 AM 1031 Views
Re: 110 new posts later.... - 12/04/2010 07:58:08 PM 1032 Views
Ok. *NM* - 12/04/2010 09:58:56 PM 618 Views
So, any other avenues of investigation that we need to attack? - 13/04/2010 03:37:39 PM 1160 Views
Sorry, haven't been able to get up the other posts - 13/04/2010 05:49:30 PM 1056 Views
Yearp - 14/04/2010 06:12:08 AM 1017 Views
I think that's pretty fair. - 14/04/2010 12:27:55 PM 1238 Views
Fine with me. *NM* - 14/04/2010 03:36:41 PM 692 Views
Re: Yearp - 14/04/2010 04:48:58 PM 1046 Views
Okay I need 2 Random numbers between 1-15 please - got 3 and 13, thanks - 13/04/2010 06:45:43 PM 981 Views
3 *NM* - 13/04/2010 07:35:56 PM 719 Views
13 *NM* - 13/04/2010 07:39:10 PM 708 Views
Event: Lunch Interlude - 13/04/2010 10:00:19 PM 1165 Views
You see that? Black and Red. - 13/04/2010 11:12:07 PM 864 Views
Taimens? *NM* - 13/04/2010 11:26:01 PM 671 Views
Taim + Ravens. *NM* - 14/04/2010 01:20:15 AM 668 Views
LOL. Nice try. *NM* - 14/04/2010 01:55:33 AM 700 Views
I was going to point that out yesterday - 14/04/2010 12:16:46 AM 1290 Views
lots of people like black and red tho - 14/04/2010 12:44:38 AM 1112 Views
I know. I didn't mean it as true evidence. - 14/04/2010 03:41:06 PM 1075 Views
So... there's that - 13/04/2010 11:39:23 PM 998 Views
prolly a puzzle peice - 14/04/2010 12:12:08 AM 1136 Views
Piece of the puzzle, I'd say. - 14/04/2010 12:54:11 AM 1024 Views
Re: So... there's that - 14/04/2010 01:57:17 AM 1116 Views
do the numbers match up with the player list? - 14/04/2010 02:30:03 AM 1083 Views
Re: do the numbers match up with the player list? - 14/04/2010 02:48:33 AM 1086 Views
No, I actually discuss methodology in the Update section *NM* - 14/04/2010 02:54:37 AM 664 Views
Origin Chart (Table) - 14/04/2010 05:05:14 PM 1095 Views
Idea. - 14/04/2010 05:32:10 PM 1043 Views
...I did, didn't I? - 14/04/2010 11:22:09 PM 1074 Views
I was thinking note something like fist's - 15/04/2010 01:36:36 AM 1055 Views
So... does anyone have any bursts of insight? - 15/04/2010 04:21:20 AM 1116 Views
Yes, I think I've figured out who the Darkfriends are *NM* - 15/04/2010 05:10:06 AM 673 Views
You think? - 15/04/2010 06:04:58 AM 1036 Views
Care to share? *NM* - 15/04/2010 05:21:39 PM 663 Views
Yes, vote fistofpainx. He's a DF. *NM* - 15/04/2010 07:04:36 AM 697 Views
Actually, I'm starting to agree with this. - 15/04/2010 07:38:43 AM 1140 Views
Personally... - 15/04/2010 08:32:15 PM 1022 Views
Yeah fist is (and has been) very quiet. Hey! Wake up! - 15/04/2010 11:24:29 PM 1010 Views
Re: Yeah fist is (and has been) very quiet. Hey! Wake up! - 16/04/2010 02:15:50 AM 1107 Views
And what about YOU? - 16/04/2010 04:09:55 AM 1054 Views
Re: Yeah fist is (and has been) very quiet. Hey! Wake up! - 16/04/2010 04:31:36 AM 988 Views
Two votes is considered enough of a direct question? *NM* - 16/04/2010 08:00:16 AM 666 Views
Good idea, Pal! *NM* - 15/04/2010 02:52:46 PM 755 Views
*Prods Players* - 16/04/2010 08:23:01 AM 1035 Views
*wakes up* - 16/04/2010 11:33:16 AM 1205 Views
We were voting - 16/04/2010 12:03:02 PM 1082 Views
if it gets the game moving, fine. Vote: fistofpainx - 16/04/2010 06:11:57 PM 1237 Views
This is where I'd vote for fistofpainx... - 16/04/2010 06:47:57 PM 1121 Views
I, however , am not thus bound. Vote: fistofpainx - 16/04/2010 11:21:14 PM 1012 Views
Nah, he doesn't need to roleclaim yet - 17/04/2010 12:20:12 AM 1124 Views
oh and btw - 17/04/2010 12:24:37 AM 1070 Views
Not right away, no. - 17/04/2010 01:04:43 AM 1056 Views
He's already got a lot of votes against him. - 17/04/2010 06:21:42 PM 1175 Views
I Agree. - 18/04/2010 08:56:59 AM 1078 Views
Personal activity for next two weeks - 17/04/2010 10:06:07 AM 1046 Views
We'll see if we can manage that *NM* - 17/04/2010 06:53:30 PM 649 Views
Finally back - 17/04/2010 07:40:35 PM 1111 Views
That sucks, sorry - 17/04/2010 07:42:40 PM 944 Views
Re: Finally back - 17/04/2010 09:53:08 PM 1075 Views
Er... - 18/04/2010 01:56:29 AM 987 Views
meh I don't have any feelings *NM* - 18/04/2010 02:25:03 AM 613 Views
A sure sign of a Darkfriend. *NM* - 18/04/2010 02:49:30 AM 633 Views
EBWOP: *NM* - 18/04/2010 02:50:02 AM 612 Views
I agree - 18/04/2010 03:29:30 AM 1031 Views
Talic was suspicious because he was cagey about his origin - 18/04/2010 08:28:34 AM 1061 Views
No, not really... - 18/04/2010 06:23:42 PM 960 Views
I don't find that suspicious at all - 18/04/2010 07:11:01 PM 1036 Views
You make a lot of assumptions. - 18/04/2010 09:00:11 PM 1048 Views
Re: You make a lot of assumptions. - 18/04/2010 09:44:22 PM 1047 Views
But which assumption is more likely? - 19/04/2010 12:55:28 AM 1088 Views
I think they're both pretty likely, actually... - 19/04/2010 01:36:49 AM 920 Views
Exactly, which means Talic is supicious. - 19/04/2010 02:41:43 AM 1102 Views
Speaking of assumptions, why are you assuming they didn't? - 19/04/2010 03:34:36 AM 1071 Views
I never did. - 19/04/2010 03:45:27 AM 1115 Views
they're all fairly reasonable ones though - 18/04/2010 11:08:22 PM 1134 Views
Why not? - 19/04/2010 12:52:43 AM 1164 Views
I'd be willing to bet we have a Doc. - 19/04/2010 08:32:21 PM 954 Views
But the assumptions are all (or mostly) completely rational. *NM* - 19/04/2010 02:12:28 AM 645 Views
Really? Why? - 19/04/2010 02:42:52 AM 1117 Views
Talic is definitely supicious. - 18/04/2010 06:01:23 AM 1077 Views
Fox is the only one I'm really suspicious of so far - 18/04/2010 07:31:09 AM 973 Views
It's like...backwards from last game. *NM* - 18/04/2010 07:23:37 PM 695 Views
It is! *NM* - 18/04/2010 07:27:29 PM 590 Views
OK, so here are my (new) candidates) - 18/04/2010 08:48:22 AM 1181 Views
I do have an opinion on one of those - 18/04/2010 12:37:34 PM 1019 Views
Atleast you have some ideas. - 18/04/2010 03:24:14 PM 1181 Views
Re: OK, so here are my (new) candidates) - 18/04/2010 06:48:10 PM 1078 Views
Re: OK, so here are my (new) candidates) - 18/04/2010 07:29:07 PM 1027 Views
At this point, it's almost painfully obvious that fistofpainx is a DF. *NM* - 18/04/2010 08:10:06 PM 614 Views
Can you elaborate on why? - 18/04/2010 10:09:27 PM 1010 Views
Oh? - 19/04/2010 01:28:23 AM 1077 Views
That's a pretty bold claim. - 19/04/2010 08:35:28 PM 1098 Views
Oh, btw, even though Isaac hasn't updated yet, you're still voting for fistofpainx *NM* - 18/04/2010 08:12:25 PM 708 Views
Eh. Didn't feel like unvoting. *NM* - 19/04/2010 01:26:50 AM 708 Views
These three are not very suspicous to me - 19/04/2010 05:44:28 AM 1008 Views
I don't know who to kill Today. - 19/04/2010 05:14:19 PM 1141 Views
F-T makes good points about Talic. - 19/04/2010 09:38:38 PM 1182 Views
we are gonna have to do something guys - 19/04/2010 10:24:30 PM 1053 Views
Someone bring me solid evidence about fist. I suggest BlackAdder for this - 20/04/2010 12:19:12 AM 1059 Views
here's some evidence - 20/04/2010 12:49:29 AM 1117 Views
Re: here's some evidence - 20/04/2010 04:54:54 AM 1140 Views
Maybe - 20/04/2010 07:15:01 AM 1366 Views
Re: Maybe - 20/04/2010 03:25:16 PM 1083 Views
Re: Maybe - 20/04/2010 03:43:21 PM 1047 Views
Eh, FT's thing was that Talic didn't get NK'd - 20/04/2010 01:50:50 AM 1041 Views
Why would you want him to roleclaim? - 20/04/2010 03:34:46 AM 985 Views
Re: Why would you want him to roleclaim? - 20/04/2010 04:45:46 AM 904 Views
I'd rather not trust that he'll screw up a roleclaim. - 20/04/2010 04:59:54 AM 1134 Views
Re: Eh, FT's thing was that Talic didn't get NK'd - 20/04/2010 04:54:04 AM 989 Views
Er, I was saying that the chances WEREN'T equal - 20/04/2010 05:22:23 PM 1057 Views
Day 2 Deadline Extension: Friday 2 PM EST - 20/04/2010 02:45:25 AM 1098 Views
Whoa. - 20/04/2010 03:42:07 PM 1131 Views
I'll wait for him to post his reasons. *NM* - 20/04/2010 04:22:20 PM 619 Views
I've waited. - 20/04/2010 05:09:40 PM 1142 Views
You vote me for 2 days of inactivity? lolwut. *NM* - 20/04/2010 05:39:54 PM 571 Views
I have to agree with Kronin here - 20/04/2010 04:31:24 PM 1243 Views
same here - 20/04/2010 05:21:23 PM 1071 Views
Slightly ironic. *NM* - 20/04/2010 05:38:39 PM 709 Views
Yeah, I've been RBIRL and informed everyone of it. Reading is tech. - 20/04/2010 05:36:11 PM 1012 Views
Re: Yeah, I've been RBIRL and informed everyone of it. Reading is tech. - 20/04/2010 06:02:45 PM 1022 Views
Dude, rly? - 20/04/2010 06:07:44 PM 1007 Views
btw, what is the case against me anyway? That I have a case against fist? *NM* - 20/04/2010 06:11:01 PM 708 Views
An unsupported case against fist. - 20/04/2010 06:20:21 PM 1030 Views
...? - 20/04/2010 06:24:19 PM 1163 Views
Re: ...? - 20/04/2010 08:37:07 PM 1051 Views
I don't see what your points are. - 20/04/2010 06:12:49 PM 1016 Views
Re: I don't see what your points are. - 20/04/2010 06:22:19 PM 1131 Views
First off, stop with the eye rolls. - 20/04/2010 06:27:48 PM 917 Views
I can't help it - 20/04/2010 06:33:05 PM 1118 Views
Re: I can't help it - 20/04/2010 06:46:25 PM 1043 Views
meh, your case against fist just seems really weak - 21/04/2010 01:03:17 AM 981 Views
Re: meh, your case against fist just seems really weak - 21/04/2010 03:29:08 AM 1010 Views
I just didn't agree with the conclusion you drew.... - 21/04/2010 04:07:34 AM 1141 Views
just because someone has a non-vanilla role - 20/04/2010 06:53:39 PM 1204 Views
Re: just because someone has a non-vanilla role - 20/04/2010 07:11:59 PM 1100 Views
Re: just because someone has a non-vanilla role - 20/04/2010 07:23:21 PM 1069 Views
Re: just because someone has a non-vanilla role - 20/04/2010 07:27:48 PM 1137 Views
I'm not voting for Blackadder Today. - 20/04/2010 08:34:21 PM 1089 Views
Re: I'm not voting for Blackadder Today. - 20/04/2010 08:44:25 PM 1067 Views
I wasn't jumping to lynch him, I was just putting pressure. - 20/04/2010 09:51:17 PM 1055 Views
Yeah, I thought that was interesting too. - 21/04/2010 12:46:01 AM 1099 Views
Bandwagon votes - 21/04/2010 12:41:33 PM 1095 Views
Post counts - 21/04/2010 01:30:07 PM 959 Views
Really, now. Yuna, ranagrande, Amys, fist, White Flame, and Talic: The MOD has more posts than you. *NM* - 21/04/2010 01:33:57 PM 645 Views
Isaac does love the sound of his own voice *NM* - 21/04/2010 02:28:58 PM 605 Views
'tis true - 21/04/2010 02:53:51 PM 1190 Views
Cosequences? - 21/04/2010 06:27:29 PM 1147 Views
Well, Yuna's spoken up... - 21/04/2010 06:29:51 PM 1075 Views
Re: Well, Yuna's spoken up... - 21/04/2010 07:58:24 PM 972 Views
Re: Bandwagon votes - 22/04/2010 12:29:28 AM 1122 Views
Re: Bandwagon votes - 22/04/2010 12:48:23 AM 1184 Views
Personally I think it's weird that people are jumping on blackadder - 21/04/2010 12:23:06 AM 1260 Views
Re: Personally I think it's weird that people are jumping on blackadder - 21/04/2010 03:34:46 AM 1103 Views
Vote Table: 21 Apr, Wednesday 11:46 PM EST - 21/04/2010 01:58:55 AM 1129 Views
Hey, Talic, Yuna, and Artsapat! - 21/04/2010 01:14:54 PM 1102 Views
Re: Hey, Talic, Yuna, and Artsapat! - 21/04/2010 01:35:13 PM 1205 Views
Yea, I saw right after I posted this. Still doesn't exclude the other two! - 21/04/2010 01:39:07 PM 1109 Views
mrrr - 21/04/2010 01:44:01 PM 1122 Views
That seems awfully familiar to my reasoning. - 21/04/2010 01:46:29 PM 1077 Views
bleh - 21/04/2010 02:00:08 PM 1122 Views
It's not that you agreed with someone. - 21/04/2010 02:01:25 PM 1044 Views
Re: It's not that you agreed with someone. - 21/04/2010 02:15:44 PM 1267 Views
I agree. *NM* - 21/04/2010 02:24:11 PM 649 Views
All right, lets do this. Vote: Fox and Ravens - 21/04/2010 05:37:05 PM 1171 Views
Has anything happened in the last few days to increase your suspicion? - 21/04/2010 06:27:43 PM 1031 Views
The deadline? - 21/04/2010 06:57:52 PM 1063 Views
Re: The deadline? - 21/04/2010 07:22:19 PM 1093 Views
Yeah, sorry man. - 21/04/2010 09:08:46 PM 1089 Views
OK...so here are my thoughts up to this point... - 22/04/2010 01:24:02 AM 1104 Views
I'm disinclined to go along with this. - 22/04/2010 02:16:28 AM 1024 Views
Somehow, I disagree with both of you - 22/04/2010 02:56:45 AM 1035 Views
The problem is.... - 22/04/2010 03:30:12 AM 1046 Views
To Kronin, ranagrande, and Darth Katie - 22/04/2010 03:22:26 PM 1020 Views
He doesn't quite "go with the most popular option". - 22/04/2010 09:10:59 PM 1016 Views
more the posting rate - 23/04/2010 02:50:25 AM 1078 Views
Hmm. That reminds me of something. - 22/04/2010 02:43:35 AM 1041 Views
Oh, and I forgot to add... - 22/04/2010 02:45:37 AM 1142 Views
So what you're saying is that there's no way I could be vanilla? - 22/04/2010 03:06:31 AM 1041 Views
Don't be absurd. - 22/04/2010 04:14:36 AM 1045 Views
For SCIENCE! *NM* - 22/04/2010 04:24:39 AM 603 Views
That's a terrible reason. - 22/04/2010 02:35:53 PM 1087 Views
Btw, Isaac, I voted for fist in my long post *NM* - 22/04/2010 02:59:38 PM 563 Views
Buried it a bit there, got it now *NM* - 22/04/2010 03:41:07 PM 742 Views
Another question - 22/04/2010 03:46:16 PM 1234 Views
The deadline was adjusted last night - it is now Friday - 22/04/2010 03:58:12 PM 1113 Views
OK, thanks *NM* - 22/04/2010 04:02:05 PM 1006 Views
So you really don't have any abilities, restrictions, or anything? - 22/04/2010 03:35:39 PM 990 Views
So you agree with F-T, then? - 22/04/2010 03:44:24 PM 1051 Views
Got nothing...sorry. *NM* - 22/04/2010 05:07:07 PM 583 Views
Well, it's not really an awful reason - 22/04/2010 04:25:49 PM 1063 Views
Meh, I don't have any particular suspicions about anybody. - 22/04/2010 06:11:06 PM 950 Views
Re: Hmm. That reminds me of something. - 22/04/2010 03:28:37 PM 1126 Views
If Fox is lying about his roleclaim, that's only more reason to lynch him. - 22/04/2010 06:18:41 PM 1040 Views
Also, if the whole town has powers - 22/04/2010 03:37:26 PM 1216 Views
No, we shouldn't - 22/04/2010 03:48:30 PM 1068 Views
Re: No, we shouldn't - 22/04/2010 04:00:33 PM 1146 Views
What is it you want to hear from me? - 22/04/2010 06:17:39 PM 1041 Views
Re: What is it you want to hear from me? - 22/04/2010 09:04:22 PM 1018 Views
Well, it depends. - 22/04/2010 10:56:39 PM 1041 Views
Re: Well, it depends. - 22/04/2010 11:21:47 PM 1092 Views
This isn't the only reason - 23/04/2010 02:59:35 AM 1067 Views
Re: Well, it depends. - 23/04/2010 04:58:40 AM 1126 Views
Re: No, we shouldn't - 22/04/2010 06:42:52 PM 1071 Views
See my reply to ranagrande below *NM* - 22/04/2010 09:02:06 PM 693 Views
and how will coordination help? - 22/04/2010 08:23:27 PM 965 Views
Obviously we don't have time for this Today, just keep in mind for Tomorrow. - 22/04/2010 09:01:16 PM 1013 Views
Re: Obviously we don't have time for this Today, just keep in mind for Tomorrow. - 23/04/2010 02:47:15 AM 1092 Views
P.S. could you also answer my question above to you, Kronin and Darth Katie? - 22/04/2010 09:05:47 PM 1074 Views
Both, I'd say. - 23/04/2010 05:25:38 AM 980 Views
I'm pretty sure you can't change your vote, being Chair and all. *NM* - 21/04/2010 10:20:14 PM 683 Views
It's not explicitly stated, but - 22/04/2010 12:39:39 AM 1022 Views
Ya, I think you're right. Gher has a doublevote, but I have a one-time defense. - 22/04/2010 01:49:29 AM 1079 Views
I must've been mistaken. - 22/04/2010 02:29:19 AM 1052 Views
He can move his and the chair vote anywhere, just like normal - 22/04/2010 04:36:21 AM 959 Views
So, Fox: What's up with this? - 22/04/2010 05:07:21 PM 1098 Views
Re: So, Fox: What's up with this? - 22/04/2010 07:24:46 PM 1143 Views
Clarify please. - 23/04/2010 05:18:20 AM 1148 Views
Re: Clarify please. - 23/04/2010 07:17:07 AM 1082 Views
Note from Moderator: Deadline Approaches, Current Vote Table - 23/04/2010 12:30:22 PM 1168 Views
So what will it take to get you abstainees into a vote today? - 23/04/2010 03:49:56 PM 1113 Views
Looks like fox is what everyone wants - 23/04/2010 04:02:56 PM 1071 Views
So Fox is at L-1 - 23/04/2010 04:39:25 PM 1078 Views
Re: So Fox is at L-1 - 23/04/2010 04:42:13 PM 1127 Views
Man, I don't like this at all. - 23/04/2010 05:27:58 PM 1133 Views
Fox and Ravens has been Lynched *NM* - 23/04/2010 05:56:19 PM 655 Views
Wait, isn't that 6 votes, not 7? *NM* - 23/04/2010 06:25:58 PM 546 Views
Well, in any case, I will Vote: Fox and Ravens - 23/04/2010 06:28:59 PM 1067 Views
I don't see how I could have been in your twilight message... - 23/04/2010 06:50:46 PM 1009 Views
Damn! - 23/04/2010 06:49:28 PM 1177 Views
Pardon my french please *NM* - 23/04/2010 07:01:31 PM 603 Views
Science triumphs again ! *NM* - 23/04/2010 07:25:36 PM 744 Views
Re: Damn! - 23/04/2010 08:11:58 PM 1119 Views
Day 2 Twilight – Fox and Ravens Lynched - 23/04/2010 06:46:43 PM 1054 Views
Hah! - 23/04/2010 07:12:38 PM 1180 Views
Whoa. . . - 24/04/2010 01:49:09 AM 1041 Views
And I shouldn't trust mine. I seriously thought Fox was innocent. *NM* - 24/04/2010 06:53:46 AM 629 Views
And I never trust my instincts, I trust Science! - 24/04/2010 08:47:16 AM 1040 Views
As well you should! - 24/04/2010 12:56:25 PM 1032 Views
*pokes the ghost* - 25/04/2010 01:16:28 AM 1033 Views
Re: *pokes the ghost* - 25/04/2010 01:24:13 AM 1104 Views
Re: *pokes the ghost* - 25/04/2010 05:55:39 AM 1035 Views
Wow, you were serious. - 25/04/2010 02:11:43 AM 1046 Views
Yes. Yes I am. - 25/04/2010 05:53:20 AM 1057 Views
Cheers! *NM* - 25/04/2010 03:12:32 AM 591 Views
Re: *pokes the ghost* - 25/04/2010 03:27:56 AM 953 Views
Yay! - 25/04/2010 05:51:00 AM 1018 Views
Happy Birthday! *NM* - 25/04/2010 05:25:49 PM 575 Views
Happy Birthday!! Party hard! *NM* - 25/04/2010 07:37:49 AM 591 Views
Happy birthday!! *NM* - 25/04/2010 05:13:52 PM 554 Views
Happy birthday *NM* - 25/04/2010 07:06:56 PM 506 Views

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