So, yeah. Completely at a blank on that one. I can understand thinking it won't do much good, but Fox was very... vehement.
Maybe he got hit on the head?
I don't really care much about him suggesting we give the Advocate and Chair to DFs, it's not a good idea, but maybe he was just saying it's not the end of the world if it happens. He's brainstorming, talking, it's all good.
Agreed.
The Talic thing puts me a little more on guard, because I think Talic has very plausible explanations for everything he's done. I don't have him as a prob-town, but he's not really all that suspicious in my mind. Just a hair above neutral.
Talic might have good explanations, but that doesn't mean I trust him. He might even really be Aes Sedai (and I think that's a pretty likely), but that doesn't mean he might not be Black Ajah.
But the Hypocop thing? I don't see where that's coming from. Sure it could be a waste of time and posts, but so what? There is so little harm that could come from it. And Fox arguing against it is a good DF move. If there is a Cop/Deputy/Amulet person still out there, arguing for hypocopping puts a nice bullseye on their head.
So you're saying here that a DF would suggest that we SHOULD hypocop, since it will help reveal the investigator? I think that sounds solid enough ... I am all for protecting the roles, especially with this many people this early in the game. So according to this logic then, Fox's behavior is pro-town. And to be fair, I don't see any reason why he would be so against hypocopping if he's a DF ... in my experience the DFs don't really care that much except to try to catch the cop, and he's right, chances are pretty good that there wasn't even an investigation last Night, so it doesn't even matter really. It's kind of weird that he's so against it, but I don't think that's necessarily anti-town.
So why are you suspicious of him for this? Or are you disagreeing with Beet? I am little unsure of what you are arguing. I went into this post with the idea that you had already voted, but I was wrong about that.
So what are you arguing for?
Insert theme music here.
Game 16, Day 2: In the Manor of Mad Muad (Ended)
- 09/04/2010 06:59:52 PM
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Inactivity Tracker - VNTL: 7
- 09/04/2010 08:10:05 PM
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Artsapat - RBIRL. Sorry: need to finish work before my week long holiday *NM*
- 09/04/2010 08:25:47 PM
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Darth_Katie: Semi-RBIRL *NM*
- 11/04/2010 03:36:00 AM
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Wait... what?
- 09/04/2010 11:36:10 PM
1773 Views
OK, I think I see.
- 09/04/2010 11:40:28 PM
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Re: OK, I think I see.
- 10/04/2010 12:12:47 AM
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Sounds good. With that said...
- 10/04/2010 01:47:17 AM
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Hm. So, FT- did you do anything to inform us that you were the cop?
- 10/04/2010 01:52:23 AM
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Wow...
- 10/04/2010 01:54:05 AM
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Re: Wow...
- 10/04/2010 03:03:21 AM
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Why were those two killed?
- 10/04/2010 03:12:49 AM
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It's pretty obvious why Hobo was killed after Blaine was found to be a Mason.
- 10/04/2010 03:51:17 AM
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Re: It's pretty obvious why Hobo was killed after Blaine was found to be a Mason.
- 10/04/2010 04:20:37 AM
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Well, he was revealed to be a Whitecloak, with a tacked-on ability
- 10/04/2010 04:29:34 AM
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Re: Well, he was revealed to be a Whitecloak, with a tacked-on ability
- 10/04/2010 05:15:45 AM
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Re: Well, he was revealed to be a Whitecloak, with a tacked-on ability
- 10/04/2010 05:23:51 AM
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Re: Well, he was revealed to be a Whitecloak, with a tacked-on ability
- 10/04/2010 05:27:49 AM
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Re: Well, he was revealed to be a Whitecloak, with a tacked-on ability
- 10/04/2010 05:44:59 AM
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Careful, that's been Beetnemesis' strategy the past few games. Doesn't work so well
*NM*
- 10/04/2010 07:14:55 PM
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*NM*
- 10/04/2010 07:14:55 PM
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Explain?
*NM*
- 11/04/2010 01:01:59 AM
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*NM*
- 11/04/2010 01:01:59 AM
1157 Views
He got the entire town against him by digging himself a deeper and deeper hole.
- 11/04/2010 01:40:46 AM
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Two main venues of inquiry:
- 10/04/2010 05:12:46 AM
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I'm curious if he is really worth keeping around
- 10/04/2010 05:34:50 AM
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I certainly oppose a roleclaim at this point...
- 10/04/2010 05:42:55 AM
1721 Views
Yes, but
- 10/04/2010 05:56:32 AM
1706 Views
Meh, I'd expect him to tell us if we were wrong...
- 10/04/2010 06:09:13 AM
1748 Views
Flavor in Hobo's death scene.
- 10/04/2010 08:13:03 AM
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first off
- 10/04/2010 11:25:23 AM
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Re: first off
- 10/04/2010 11:59:27 AM
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one possiblity
- 10/04/2010 03:36:06 PM
1599 Views
The Janitor role prevents us from finding out the victims role and affiliation though.
- 10/04/2010 07:20:16 PM
1753 Views
hmmmn
- 10/04/2010 10:29:14 PM
1703 Views
Let's try to find out reasons why the body was hidden
- 11/04/2010 06:53:23 PM
1697 Views
People know balefire
- 10/04/2010 05:49:19 PM
1793 Views
I think she learned it from Adaleas and/or Vandene, but I'm not really sure of that *NM*
- 10/04/2010 11:11:57 PM
942 Views
Also, twilight and dawn scenes
- 10/04/2010 08:27:55 AM
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You got twilight AND dawn? Fancy.
- 10/04/2010 06:01:44 PM
1685 Views
Could be his clothes in his wardrobe that were left behind, not the ones he was wearing. *NM*
- 10/04/2010 07:21:54 PM
1011 Views
Oh. Duh. It says his possessions, not a heap of clothes on the floor
- 10/04/2010 08:05:14 PM
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I'm guessing it had to do with me being the hammer vote on Blaine.
- 11/04/2010 12:44:09 AM
1721 Views
I think we should hypocop, in any case
- 10/04/2010 08:14:52 PM
1778 Views
I really think this is completely unnecessary.
- 10/04/2010 09:20:46 PM
1785 Views
FT doesn't know the results of the investigation- the deputy may
- 10/04/2010 11:30:26 PM
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Re: FT doesn't know the results of the investigation- the deputy may
- 11/04/2010 01:44:01 AM
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I agree, our Cop is dead and F-T kept a journal, which revealed no new investigation. *NM*
- 11/04/2010 12:32:21 AM
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How could this possibly do us harm?
- 11/04/2010 05:18:55 PM
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All I'm saying is the possibilty is there. *NM*
- 11/04/2010 06:56:20 PM
1076 Views
Hypocop table- Night One [Table]
- 10/04/2010 08:19:21 PM
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I found Napoleon62 to be guilty *NM*
- 11/04/2010 07:04:13 PM
1112 Views
Isaac: quick clarification.
- 11/04/2010 07:15:58 PM
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Is he a man or woman?
- 12/04/2010 01:24:37 AM
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His character is a red haired Saldean noblewoman, who likes to wear green. *NM*
- 12/04/2010 01:33:29 AM
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Ooah this ended up in the wrong place. I meant White Flame, but that question's been answered. *NM*
- 12/04/2010 01:40:33 AM
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Chair Vote: ranagrande
- 10/04/2010 11:14:56 PM
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Re: Chair Vote: ranagrande
- 10/04/2010 11:31:07 PM
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I think it's because no one really has a feel for the roles, yet Advocate Vote: beetnemesis
- 10/04/2010 11:38:56 PM
1735 Views
Where are all the people who used the "it's Day 1" excuse to not talk yesterday?
- 11/04/2010 12:52:27 AM
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Re: Where are all the people who used the "it's Day 1" excuse to not talk yesterday?
- 11/04/2010 01:59:01 AM
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Psst: Bergoiyn's a dude. *NM*
- 11/04/2010 04:11:38 AM
1187 Views
My bad
*NM*
- 11/04/2010 06:31:22 PM
1141 Views
*NM*
- 11/04/2010 06:31:22 PM
1141 Views
Was this just a mix up, or didn't you know?
*NM*
- 11/04/2010 08:45:11 PM
1006 Views
*NM*
- 11/04/2010 08:45:11 PM
1006 Views
I think it was just a mixup. Not really sure what I was thinking. *NM*
- 11/04/2010 09:47:51 PM
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Re: Where are all the people who used the "it's Day 1" excuse to not talk yesterday?
- 11/04/2010 06:15:37 AM
1772 Views
Actually I did post RBIRL at the very end of Day 1. And it came that late because
- 11/04/2010 10:21:54 AM
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ahhh noobs
- 11/04/2010 02:14:26 AM
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Re: ahhh noobs
- 12/04/2010 02:51:33 PM
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I didn't use "Day 1 excuse". I've been sick, and really haven't got the energy to do anything.
- 11/04/2010 10:16:10 AM
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Hmm.
- 11/04/2010 12:53:43 AM
1788 Views
And I thought you'd try to make another bid for the Chair, being "new" and all. *NM*
- 11/04/2010 05:23:26 PM
1072 Views
So, any suspicions?
- 11/04/2010 03:15:53 PM
1679 Views
EBWOP - It's supposed to read "who people have suspicions about and why." *NM*
- 11/04/2010 03:17:33 PM
1071 Views
Let's rip out mine
- 11/04/2010 07:18:38 PM
1637 Views
Yesterday you said you trusted White Flame
- 11/04/2010 07:31:20 PM
1777 Views
As I mentioned above, I'm suspicious of Fox
- 11/04/2010 10:54:48 PM
1721 Views
Advocate Vote: beetnemesis | Chair Vote: Gher *NM*
- 11/04/2010 05:26:39 PM
984 Views
Best thing to go off of now, I suppose.
- 11/04/2010 09:50:08 PM
1783 Views
I still don't want beet having power. But Chair Vote: Gher is acceptable. *NM*
- 11/04/2010 11:26:46 PM
1131 Views
Maybe I wasn't paying attention ...
- 12/04/2010 01:32:51 AM
1578 Views
Sheer animal magnetism
- 12/04/2010 08:21:14 AM
1694 Views
110 new posts later....
- 12/04/2010 12:49:51 AM
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Re: 110 new posts later....
- 12/04/2010 01:49:46 AM
1791 Views
This last bit is honestly the part that might convince me
- 12/04/2010 08:17:55 AM
1830 Views
Oh! And the hypocopping thing! I don't know what was up with that.
- 12/04/2010 08:20:22 AM
1732 Views
That's the one that bugs me the most.
- 12/04/2010 04:06:31 PM
1716 Views
Wait, are you suspicious of Fox or not?
- 13/04/2010 12:35:07 AM
1763 Views
Yes, I am.
- 13/04/2010 01:41:00 AM
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Re: Yes, I am.
- 13/04/2010 05:29:27 AM
1685 Views
A quick argument for why there's likely still some type of cop
- 13/04/2010 08:01:24 AM
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Re: A quick argument for why there's likely still some type of cop
- 13/04/2010 09:39:31 AM
1661 Views
I disagree with the "F-T hid it" theory.
- 13/04/2010 09:53:46 AM
1638 Views
My point was, storywise, we wouldn't KNOW if the darkfriends were killed
- 14/04/2010 04:12:49 AM
1718 Views
We can agree on all of your points, but it only argues in favor of Fox's reasoning. *NM*
- 13/04/2010 09:48:39 AM
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Re: Yes, I am.
- 13/04/2010 07:35:54 AM
1614 Views
Here's the deal with hypocopping:
- 13/04/2010 07:54:36 AM
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Re: Oh! And the hypocopping thing! I don't know what was up with that.
- 12/04/2010 04:08:10 PM
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Re: 110 new posts later....
- 12/04/2010 06:51:14 AM
1620 Views
So, any other avenues of investigation that we need to attack?
- 13/04/2010 03:37:39 PM
1784 Views
Okay I need 2 Random numbers between 1-15 please - got 3 and 13, thanks
- 13/04/2010 06:45:43 PM
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Event: Lunch Interlude
- 13/04/2010 10:00:19 PM
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You see that? Black and Red.
- 13/04/2010 11:12:07 PM
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Taimens? *NM*
- 13/04/2010 11:26:01 PM
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I was going to point that out yesterday
- 14/04/2010 12:16:46 AM
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- 14/04/2010 12:16:46 AM
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So... there's that
- 13/04/2010 11:39:23 PM
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Origin Chart (Table)
- 14/04/2010 05:05:14 PM
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So... does anyone have any bursts of insight?
- 15/04/2010 04:21:20 AM
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Yes, vote fistofpainx. He's a DF. *NM*
- 15/04/2010 07:04:36 AM
1068 Views
Actually, I'm starting to agree with this.
- 15/04/2010 07:38:43 AM
1741 Views
Personally...
- 15/04/2010 08:32:15 PM
1620 Views
Yeah fist is (and has been) very quiet. Hey! Wake up!
- 15/04/2010 11:24:29 PM
1591 Views
*Prods Players*
- 16/04/2010 08:23:01 AM
1645 Views
This is where I'd vote for fistofpainx...
- 16/04/2010 06:47:57 PM
1708 Views
Nah, he doesn't need to roleclaim yet
- 17/04/2010 12:20:12 AM
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Not right away, no.
- 17/04/2010 01:04:43 AM
1639 Views
Er...
- 18/04/2010 01:56:29 AM
1597 Views
meh I don't have any feelings *NM*
- 18/04/2010 02:25:03 AM
988 Views
I agree
- 18/04/2010 03:29:30 AM
1623 Views
Talic was suspicious because he was cagey about his origin
- 18/04/2010 08:28:34 AM
1651 Views
No, not really...
- 18/04/2010 06:23:42 PM
1570 Views
I don't find that suspicious at all
- 18/04/2010 07:11:01 PM
1619 Views
You make a lot of assumptions.
- 18/04/2010 09:00:11 PM
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Re: You make a lot of assumptions.
- 18/04/2010 09:44:22 PM
1697 Views
But which assumption is more likely?
- 19/04/2010 12:55:28 AM
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But the assumptions are all (or mostly) completely rational. *NM*
- 19/04/2010 02:12:28 AM
1004 Views
Fox is the only one I'm really suspicious of so far
- 18/04/2010 07:31:09 AM
1615 Views
OK, so here are my (new) candidates)
- 18/04/2010 08:48:22 AM
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At this point, it's almost painfully obvious that fistofpainx is a DF. *NM*
- 18/04/2010 08:10:06 PM
1004 Views
Oh, btw, even though Isaac hasn't updated yet, you're still voting for fistofpainx
*NM*
- 18/04/2010 08:12:25 PM
1073 Views
*NM*
- 18/04/2010 08:12:25 PM
1073 Views
I don't know who to kill Today.
- 19/04/2010 05:14:19 PM
1702 Views
F-T makes good points about Talic.
- 19/04/2010 09:38:38 PM
1742 Views
we are gonna have to do something guys
- 19/04/2010 10:24:30 PM
1671 Views
Someone bring me solid evidence about fist. I suggest BlackAdder for this
- 20/04/2010 12:19:12 AM
1659 Views
here's some evidence
- 20/04/2010 12:49:29 AM
1762 Views
Eh, FT's thing was that Talic didn't get NK'd
- 20/04/2010 01:50:50 AM
1618 Views
Why would you want him to roleclaim?
- 20/04/2010 03:34:46 AM
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Re: Why would you want him to roleclaim?
- 20/04/2010 04:45:46 AM
1522 Views
I'd rather not trust that he'll screw up a roleclaim.
- 20/04/2010 04:59:54 AM
1711 Views
Just saying that it has changed the situation before and very well can again. *NM*
- 20/04/2010 03:42:06 PM
940 Views
Whoa.
- 20/04/2010 03:42:07 PM
1765 Views
I'll wait for him to post his reasons. *NM*
- 20/04/2010 04:22:20 PM
1002 Views
Yeah, I've been RBIRL and informed everyone of it. Reading is tech.
- 20/04/2010 05:36:11 PM
1602 Views
Re: Yeah, I've been RBIRL and informed everyone of it. Reading is tech.
- 20/04/2010 06:02:45 PM
1635 Views
btw, what is the case against me anyway? That I have a case against fist? *NM*
- 20/04/2010 06:11:01 PM
1069 Views
I don't see what your points are.
- 20/04/2010 06:12:49 PM
1679 Views
Re: I don't see what your points are.
- 20/04/2010 06:22:19 PM
1703 Views
First off, stop with the eye rolls.
- 20/04/2010 06:27:48 PM
1468 Views
I can't help it
- 20/04/2010 06:33:05 PM
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Re: I can't help it
- 20/04/2010 06:46:25 PM
1636 Views
meh, your case against fist just seems really weak
- 21/04/2010 01:03:17 AM
1519 Views
just because someone has a non-vanilla role
- 20/04/2010 06:53:39 PM
1763 Views
Re: just because someone has a non-vanilla role
- 20/04/2010 07:11:59 PM
1640 Views
I'm not voting for Blackadder Today.
- 20/04/2010 08:34:21 PM
1622 Views
I wasn't jumping to lynch him, I was just putting pressure.
- 20/04/2010 09:51:17 PM
1656 Views
Yeah, I thought that was interesting too.
- 21/04/2010 12:46:01 AM
1683 Views
Bandwagon votes
- 21/04/2010 12:41:33 PM
1713 Views
Post counts
- 21/04/2010 01:30:07 PM
1513 Views
Really, now. Yuna, ranagrande, Amys, fist, White Flame, and Talic: The MOD has more posts than you. *NM*
- 21/04/2010 01:33:57 PM
1020 Views
Cosequences?
- 21/04/2010 06:27:29 PM
1714 Views
I'm not in the end, but in the middle of the list? This demands celebration!
*NM*
- 21/04/2010 08:42:36 PM
971 Views
*NM*
- 21/04/2010 08:42:36 PM
971 Views
Personally I think it's weird that people are jumping on blackadder
- 21/04/2010 12:23:06 AM
1870 Views
Re: Personally I think it's weird that people are jumping on blackadder
- 21/04/2010 03:34:46 AM
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Vote Table: 21 Apr, Wednesday 11:46 PM EST
- 21/04/2010 01:58:55 AM
1671 Views
Hey, Talic, Yuna, and Artsapat!
- 21/04/2010 01:14:54 PM
1649 Views
Re: Hey, Talic, Yuna, and Artsapat!
- 21/04/2010 01:35:13 PM
1729 Views
Yea, I saw right after I posted this. Still doesn't exclude the other two!
- 21/04/2010 01:39:07 PM
1693 Views
mrrr
- 21/04/2010 01:44:01 PM
1687 Views
That seems awfully familiar to my reasoning.
- 21/04/2010 01:46:29 PM
1665 Views
bleh
- 21/04/2010 02:00:08 PM
1711 Views
It's not that you agreed with someone.
- 21/04/2010 02:01:25 PM
1645 Views
All right, lets do this. Vote: Fox and Ravens
- 21/04/2010 05:37:05 PM
1798 Views
Has anything happened in the last few days to increase your suspicion?
- 21/04/2010 06:27:43 PM
1621 Views
The deadline?
- 21/04/2010 06:57:52 PM
1603 Views
Re: The deadline?
- 21/04/2010 07:22:19 PM
1662 Views
Yeah, sorry man.
- 21/04/2010 09:08:46 PM
1649 Views
OK...so here are my thoughts up to this point...
- 22/04/2010 01:24:02 AM
1680 Views
I'm disinclined to go along with this.
- 22/04/2010 02:16:28 AM
1587 Views
Hmm. That reminds me of something.
- 22/04/2010 02:43:35 AM
1558 Views
Oh, and I forgot to add...
- 22/04/2010 02:45:37 AM
1792 Views
So what you're saying is that there's no way I could be vanilla?
- 22/04/2010 03:06:31 AM
1580 Views
Don't be absurd.
- 22/04/2010 04:14:36 AM
1728 Views
That's a terrible reason.
- 22/04/2010 02:35:53 PM
1662 Views
Btw, Isaac, I voted for fist in my long post *NM*
- 22/04/2010 02:59:38 PM
933 Views
Buried it a bit there, got it now *NM*
- 22/04/2010 03:41:07 PM
1094 Views
Another question
- 22/04/2010 03:46:16 PM
1826 Views
- 22/04/2010 03:46:16 PM
1826 Views
So you really don't have any abilities, restrictions, or anything?
- 22/04/2010 03:35:39 PM
1596 Views
So you agree with F-T, then?
- 22/04/2010 03:44:24 PM
1622 Views
About lynching Fox to determine whether we have Vanillas or not? Yes.
- 22/04/2010 04:11:44 PM
1607 Views
Re: Hmm. That reminds me of something.
- 22/04/2010 03:28:37 PM
1743 Views
If Fox is lying about his roleclaim, that's only more reason to lynch him.
- 22/04/2010 06:18:41 PM
1612 Views
Also, if the whole town has powers
- 22/04/2010 03:37:26 PM
1816 Views
No, we shouldn't
- 22/04/2010 03:48:30 PM
1708 Views
Re: No, we shouldn't
- 22/04/2010 04:00:33 PM
1704 Views
What is it you want to hear from me?
- 22/04/2010 06:17:39 PM
1652 Views
Re: What is it you want to hear from me?
- 22/04/2010 09:04:22 PM
1617 Views
Well, it depends.
- 22/04/2010 10:56:39 PM
1634 Views
and how will coordination help?
- 22/04/2010 08:23:27 PM
1536 Views
Obviously we don't have time for this Today, just keep in mind for Tomorrow.
- 22/04/2010 09:01:16 PM
1597 Views
The trick of this game is to never appear too obviously town, and definitely not too obviously scum.
- 22/04/2010 10:51:12 PM
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Re: Obviously we don't have time for this Today, just keep in mind for Tomorrow.
- 23/04/2010 02:47:15 AM
1702 Views
P.S. could you also answer my question above to you, Kronin and Darth Katie?
- 22/04/2010 09:05:47 PM
1699 Views
I'm pretty sure you can't change your vote, being Chair and all. *NM*
- 21/04/2010 10:20:14 PM
1032 Views
I can probably change my vote, even if the Chair vote doesn't move along with me.
- 22/04/2010 12:05:31 AM
1649 Views
It's not explicitly stated, but
- 22/04/2010 12:39:39 AM
1644 Views
Ya, I think you're right. Gher has a doublevote, but I have a one-time defense.
- 22/04/2010 01:49:29 AM
1720 Views
So, Fox: What's up with this?
- 22/04/2010 05:07:21 PM
1651 Views
Re: So, Fox: What's up with this?
- 22/04/2010 07:24:46 PM
1755 Views
Note from Moderator: Deadline Approaches, Current Vote Table
- 23/04/2010 12:30:22 PM
1771 Views
Fox and Ravens has been Lynched *NM*
- 23/04/2010 05:56:19 PM
1017 Views
Wait, isn't that 6 votes, not 7? *NM*
- 23/04/2010 06:25:58 PM
903 Views
As has been mentioned, it records the number of people who voted, not the number of votes
- 23/04/2010 06:34:45 PM
1829 Views
Re: As has been mentioned, it records the number of people who voted, not the number of votes
- 23/04/2010 06:41:57 PM
1712 Views
Day 2 Twilight – Fox and Ravens Lynched
- 23/04/2010 06:46:43 PM
1640 Views
Whoa. . .
- 24/04/2010 01:49:09 AM
1642 Views
And I shouldn't trust mine. I seriously thought Fox was innocent. *NM*
- 24/04/2010 06:53:46 AM
983 Views
And I never trust my instincts, I trust Science!
- 24/04/2010 08:47:16 AM
1599 Views
As well you should!
- 24/04/2010 12:56:25 PM
1663 Views
*pokes the ghost*
- 25/04/2010 01:16:28 AM
1596 Views

*NM*
*NM*