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Re: Interesting angle. BlackAdder Send a noteboard - 27/04/2010 09:24:42 PM
Of course, it might be that Isaac was waiting on White Flame for the sake of completion, and it was actually White Flame who was targeted.

Anyway, I'm not happy that we'd allow Yunalesca to have such a poor performance record just because it seems unlikely there would be two Darkfriends in the mason group. Sure, it's true, but at the same time if Isaac really wanted to hide a Darkfriend, where better than somewhere we'd expect to be already purged? I just don't know if Isaac decided to be that sneaky.

What's also interesting to note is that Bergioyn was killed by the Darkfriends immediately after Fox and Ravens' death. This could be one of two things, either Fox and Ravens and Yunalesca were both Darkfriends, and killing Bergioyn allowed the Shadow to maintain a majority vote over the Saldaean night kill, or the Darkfriends trusted Fox and Ravens to keep the Saldaeans operating in the desired direction, and with Fox dead they decided to act to remove the threatening vigilante night kill.

I think it makes more sense for Yuna as an SK.

Think about this: Isaac puts 3 people with 3 different win conditions in a group and gives them a collective kill (of course, none of them know this). The last person alive basically turns into either a vig, SK, or second DF kill. I think it's pretty genius

Also, about your first point - check the Mod updates post. I think it's the third update down the list, but Isaac mentions that it was a pretty important night action and had significant effects. If White Flame was targeted directly, then either he would have died, or someone he switched with would have died (not sure which). But if it's the former, then I don't think WF's action would have been important.
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RAFO Mafia 16, Day 3: In the Manor of Mad Muad (Ended) Isaac - 25/04/2010 10:53:09 PM 2601 Views
General Info from the Moderator: Update 23 Isaac - 26/04/2010 01:25:44 AM 1251 Views
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NM - reserved *NM* Isaac - 26/04/2010 06:39:09 PM 677 Views
Posthumous Messages Isaac - 26/04/2010 04:38:44 PM 1282 Views
Yeesh. Kronin al'Sulc - 26/04/2010 02:00:15 AM 1309 Views
There is a hint that there are multiple Aes Sedai BlackAdder - 26/04/2010 02:13:59 AM 1293 Views
Anyone who he knew was an Aes Sedai. Kronin al'Sulc - 26/04/2010 02:27:58 AM 1138 Views
Oh, that's true. Well, still a hint there are multiple Aes Sedai. BlackAdder - 26/04/2010 02:30:40 AM 1120 Views
Not necessarily. Fanatic-Templar - 26/04/2010 03:03:03 AM 1295 Views
What makes you think Male Channeler? Darth_Katie - 26/04/2010 04:10:20 AM 1218 Views
Well, I was a male wilder in Isaac's last game... Fanatic-Templar - 26/04/2010 06:13:59 AM 1152 Views
Hm. Well, OK. This told us a lot. beetnemesis - 26/04/2010 02:09:30 AM 1276 Views
Off to See How to Train Your Dragon- I expect big things when I return! *NM* beetnemesis - 26/04/2010 02:14:36 AM 704 Views
Oh, and: The Salds are, of cours, Yunalesca and one other person, I'm guessing beetnemesis - 26/04/2010 02:15:55 AM 1342 Views
Yunalesa is the only other claimed Saldaean BlackAdder - 26/04/2010 02:22:27 AM 1188 Views
Eh, they're Masons beetnemesis - 26/04/2010 05:40:20 AM 1164 Views
Makes them prime NK targets. Gher - 26/04/2010 06:44:15 AM 1223 Views
Oh. Obviously. beetnemesis - 26/04/2010 06:51:59 AM 1306 Views
Origin chart beetnemesis - 26/04/2010 02:13:43 AM 1141 Views
Also, regarding the Chair role BlackAdder - 26/04/2010 02:27:43 AM 1334 Views
Someone has a double vote? ranagrande - 26/04/2010 02:47:11 AM 1270 Views
Yes, at the end of yesterday BlackAdder - 26/04/2010 03:33:32 AM 1365 Views
You're forgetting a couple ranagrande - 26/04/2010 03:37:59 AM 1157 Views
Re: You're forgetting a couple BlackAdder - 26/04/2010 03:40:24 AM 1121 Views
Thanks, I stand corrected. *NM* ranagrande - 26/04/2010 03:47:34 AM 671 Views
BlackAdder is correct, with a minor correlary beetnemesis - 26/04/2010 05:46:29 AM 1268 Views
Why not Talic? *NM* BlackAdder - 26/04/2010 06:08:14 AM 696 Views
Eh. Newbie Tinker from the White Tower beetnemesis - 26/04/2010 06:28:30 AM 1285 Views
Roles are distributed randomly. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 26/04/2010 06:32:59 AM 675 Views
Sez who? beetnemesis - 26/04/2010 06:36:20 AM 1196 Views
Yes. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 26/04/2010 06:55:42 AM 690 Views
Er... where? I just searched, but maybe I'm missing something beetnemesis - 26/04/2010 07:06:44 AM 1242 Views
He said it in the first game he modded, which I think is lost to Wotmania. Fanatic-Templar - 26/04/2010 07:21:18 AM 1162 Views
Mmm. OK, it's possible. I remain unconvinced, though- we'll ask Isaac after the game ends *NM* beetnemesis - 26/04/2010 07:43:37 AM 745 Views
I think randomizing roles is pretty standard Mod practice. Darth_Katie - 26/04/2010 12:55:35 PM 1281 Views
Random with a Caveat Isaac - 26/04/2010 03:43:29 PM 1183 Views
OK, that makes sense beetnemesis - 26/04/2010 05:11:57 PM 1297 Views
Well, I usually don't have much to say Talic - 26/04/2010 05:37:18 PM 1264 Views
I disagree. Gher - 26/04/2010 06:48:24 AM 1265 Views
Why would Shienarans have political clout? Fanatic-Templar - 26/04/2010 06:16:16 AM 1345 Views
We're in Shienar, aren't we? beetnemesis - 26/04/2010 06:17:55 AM 1190 Views
Saldaea. Fanatic-Templar - 26/04/2010 06:19:19 AM 1268 Views
Dammit. Hm. Well, I suppose that does make him less likely, though not impossible beetnemesis - 26/04/2010 06:25:30 AM 1265 Views
You can't change your vote anyway. *NM* BlackAdder - 26/04/2010 05:30:56 PM 692 Views
Oh, right. Well, OK. Everyone: Vote beetnemesis for Chair! A vote for beet is a vote for... um beetnemesis - 26/04/2010 05:39:15 PM 1232 Views
Oh, there's another reason people should vote for me (and Gher): beetnemesis - 26/04/2010 10:19:34 PM 1267 Views
Re: Oh, there's another reason people should vote for me (and Gher): BlackAdder - 26/04/2010 10:29:35 PM 1241 Views
Same benefit as every other Day. Fanatic-Templar - 26/04/2010 03:08:59 AM 1190 Views
No way should you get triple voting powers BlackAdder - 26/04/2010 03:29:06 AM 1142 Views
I do object ranagrande - 26/04/2010 03:43:34 AM 1169 Views
Sure, you can have it too . Fanatic-Templar - 26/04/2010 06:17:16 AM 1166 Views
Well, kinda... ranagrande - 26/04/2010 07:03:47 AM 1319 Views
That's true. Fanatic-Templar - 26/04/2010 07:20:17 AM 1025 Views
Also, the circumstances are different BlackAdder - 26/04/2010 03:48:07 AM 1177 Views
You should say doubly suspicious. Fanatic-Templar - 26/04/2010 06:18:50 AM 1282 Views
Yeah, No. Chair Vote: beetnemesis beetnemesis - 26/04/2010 05:48:44 AM 1223 Views
Huh. Fanatic-Templar - 26/04/2010 06:22:29 AM 1104 Views
Mod clarification BlackAdder - 26/04/2010 02:37:52 AM 1172 Views
I doubt it. Kronin al'Sulc - 26/04/2010 02:39:16 AM 1172 Views
Re: I doubt it. BlackAdder - 26/04/2010 03:24:27 AM 922 Views
EBWOP: i.e. literally means "that is" BlackAdder - 26/04/2010 03:43:32 AM 1242 Views
Well, I think you're misunderstanding. Kronin al'Sulc - 26/04/2010 03:57:55 AM 1097 Views
Yeah, likely means "Kill a DF at Night" beetnemesis - 26/04/2010 05:49:36 AM 1144 Views
No, he's right. 'Id est' is specification, not an example. Fanatic-Templar - 26/04/2010 06:27:54 AM 1141 Views
Yeah, that makes me nervous too. Darth_Katie - 26/04/2010 02:46:19 AM 1219 Views
Probably he just copy-pasted from Fox's role message . Fanatic-Templar - 26/04/2010 03:09:44 AM 1115 Views
It's my understanding that the Mod almighty does not make mistakes *NM* BlackAdder - 26/04/2010 03:44:43 AM 1081 Views
He does, not many thankfully, which requires a lot of triple-checking Isaac - 26/04/2010 04:10:17 AM 1257 Views
Wait, so you're saying that wasn't a mistake? Fanatic-Templar - 26/04/2010 06:26:15 AM 1330 Views
Isaac's changed it to "e.g." Berg. could not vote with the Darkfriends. *NM* beetnemesis - 26/04/2010 05:30:25 PM 585 Views
It looks like it has been corrected BlackAdder - 26/04/2010 05:33:56 PM 1186 Views
Ah, okay. Fanatic-Templar - 26/04/2010 06:23:52 PM 1220 Views
my thoughts from last night ranagrande - 26/04/2010 02:43:32 AM 1245 Views
Eh, just to change it from F-T: Chair Vote: ranagrande. *NM* Kronin al'Sulc - 26/04/2010 03:56:15 AM 686 Views
I'm going to second this Talic - 26/04/2010 05:50:14 PM 1283 Views
some thoughts on the double NK fistofpainx - 26/04/2010 03:04:29 AM 1272 Views
Re: some thoughts on the double NK BlackAdder - 26/04/2010 04:09:00 AM 1201 Views
Yeah, I don't think who ever's making the extra kills is pro-town. Darth_Katie - 26/04/2010 04:15:12 AM 1073 Views
Hey, glad the Darkfriends didn't decide to 'finish the job' last night . Fanatic-Templar - 26/04/2010 03:20:48 AM 1163 Views
Re: Hey, glad the Darkfriends didn't decide to 'finish the job' last night . BlackAdder - 26/04/2010 03:55:00 AM 1127 Views
Well to be fair Talic - 26/04/2010 05:48:10 PM 1188 Views
Yuna (and George) didn't vote for Fox because they were part of the Saldaean Group. Others may be DF beetnemesis - 26/04/2010 06:14:48 AM 1313 Views
Well, I am not a Saldaean and I am not a DF either. Darth_Katie - 26/04/2010 12:54:48 PM 1132 Views
Fox wasn't George because he had already claimed to be Saldean beetnemesis - 26/04/2010 05:28:38 PM 1151 Views
Why just me and Katie? Kronin al'Sulc - 26/04/2010 01:13:40 PM 1182 Views
It was just a feeling- I didn't mean to rule them out. beetnemesis - 26/04/2010 05:34:11 PM 1085 Views
Re: It was just a feeling- I didn't mean to rule them out. BlackAdder - 26/04/2010 05:49:37 PM 1259 Views
Something else: fistofpainx and BlackAdder are very likely innocent beetnemesis - 26/04/2010 06:17:38 AM 1161 Views
I think we have a decent shot at finding George BlackAdder - 26/04/2010 05:41:40 PM 1199 Views
True- I meant "Innocent" as in "Not a DF" beetnemesis - 26/04/2010 05:53:13 PM 1192 Views
Hypocop Table- Night 2 [Table] beetnemesis - 26/04/2010 06:42:46 AM 1205 Views
I found ranagrande to be Innocent *NM* beetnemesis - 26/04/2010 06:43:11 AM 739 Views
I found Darth_Katie to be guilty *NM* ranagrande - 26/04/2010 07:04:45 AM 671 Views
Gher, innocent. *NM* Darth_Katie - 26/04/2010 12:48:47 PM 668 Views
i found Fanatic-Templar to be innocent *NM* Yunalesca - 26/04/2010 03:34:33 PM 701 Views
I found Darth Katie to be innocent. *NM* Kronin al'Sulc - 26/04/2010 03:49:40 PM 655 Views
Found Gher innocent *NM* BlackAdder - 26/04/2010 05:43:06 PM 710 Views
I found Gher to be Innocent *NM* Talic - 26/04/2010 05:51:53 PM 679 Views
I found White Flame of Tar Valon to be innocent. *NM* Gher - 26/04/2010 05:56:39 PM 691 Views
Really? The dead guy? Some cop you are *NM* BlackAdder - 26/04/2010 06:07:04 PM 672 Views
The cop wouldn't have known last Night that White Flame would end up dead. Gher - 26/04/2010 06:16:05 PM 1287 Views
Also, dead guys probably have a slightly higher chance of being hypocopped. Gher - 26/04/2010 06:22:59 PM 1204 Views
I found White Flame of Tar Valon to be innocent. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 26/04/2010 06:30:43 PM 667 Views
Amys- Innocent *NM* fistofpainx - 27/04/2010 04:38:05 AM 718 Views
Fanatic-Templar- Innocent *NM* Amys - 29/04/2010 05:37:29 AM 651 Views
BlackAdder Innocent *NM* Artsapat - 02/05/2010 12:35:47 PM 705 Views
kay so, here's what i know Yunalesca - 26/04/2010 03:42:19 PM 1076 Views
What was your group decision? *NM* Darth_Katie - 26/04/2010 04:36:58 PM 608 Views
That is... incredibly disappointing. beetnemesis - 26/04/2010 05:49:25 PM 1173 Views
My thoughts RE: George BlackAdder - 26/04/2010 06:28:19 PM 1564 Views
right, everything i know then Yunalesca - 26/04/2010 08:49:17 PM 1188 Views
so who did you choose to kill Nights 1 and 2? *NM* BlackAdder - 26/04/2010 08:56:45 PM 675 Views
Re: so who did you choose to kill Nights 1 and 2? Yunalesca - 26/04/2010 09:20:41 PM 1350 Views
And who did the actual killing? *NM* ranagrande - 26/04/2010 09:32:00 PM 695 Views
Re: And who did the actual killing? Yunalesca - 26/04/2010 09:38:39 PM 1084 Views
So you can both channel? BlackAdder - 26/04/2010 09:43:44 PM 1271 Views
i can't channel Yunalesca - 26/04/2010 09:49:54 PM 1150 Views
*NM* beetnemesis - 26/04/2010 10:01:40 PM 712 Views
lol! *NM* BlackAdder - 26/04/2010 10:17:46 PM 620 Views
Hmm BlackAdder - 26/04/2010 10:14:06 PM 1318 Views
i can't tell you the spesifics but Yunalesca - 26/04/2010 10:23:44 PM 1420 Views
And probably the sa'sara. *NM* Kronin al'Sulc - 26/04/2010 10:31:31 PM 728 Views
No real reasons for killing Kronin al'Sulc - 27/04/2010 01:01:37 AM 1236 Views
EBWOP: There was supposed to be a question mark on that title. *NM* Kronin al'Sulc - 27/04/2010 01:21:45 AM 685 Views
it was the first night Yunalesca - 27/04/2010 12:03:03 PM 1091 Views
Great! Thanks. OK, so that's our vig. beetnemesis - 26/04/2010 10:14:03 PM 1297 Views
Re: Great! Thanks. OK, so that's our vig. BlackAdder - 26/04/2010 10:17:21 PM 1233 Views
Yes, it really does matter beetnemesis - 26/04/2010 10:22:10 PM 1119 Views
As a matter of fact... BlackAdder - 26/04/2010 10:46:01 PM 1186 Views
EBWOP: Notice how what Isaac says doesn't mean Fox was telling the truth about not being George. *NM* BlackAdder - 26/04/2010 10:47:32 PM 668 Views
Ah! Thanks. That was bugging me. beetnemesis - 26/04/2010 10:52:37 PM 1221 Views
But there's not much we can do about it right now. Gher - 26/04/2010 10:49:50 PM 1209 Views
I remain suspicious of you. Fanatic-Templar - 26/04/2010 10:44:59 PM 1232 Views
To be fair... people ALWAYS kill Hobo beetnemesis - 26/04/2010 10:54:14 PM 1242 Views
It sure seems to be the case. Gher - 26/04/2010 10:56:54 PM 1256 Views
I'd rather not discount warranted suspicions because someone can offer plausible justification. Fanatic-Templar - 27/04/2010 01:02:50 AM 1157 Views
OK, I believe it BlackAdder - 26/04/2010 11:11:19 PM 1148 Views
Why did neither you nor Bergioyn speak up when Fox claimed vanilla? *NM* BlackAdder - 27/04/2010 01:41:35 AM 691 Views
Actually, that's a very good question. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 27/04/2010 02:42:36 AM 717 Views
i don't know why Ber didn't Yunalesca - 27/04/2010 12:10:47 PM 1333 Views
Well, you knew he was lying, then. Why not vote him? *NM* BlackAdder - 27/04/2010 07:09:55 PM 688 Views
because i thought he was simply lying about being a mason Yunalesca - 27/04/2010 08:27:00 PM 1237 Views
It would have been dumb of you to lynch a known liar? Fanatic-Templar - 27/04/2010 08:32:15 PM 1318 Views
oh come on! Yunalesca - 27/04/2010 10:38:35 PM 1267 Views
The first night message I sent him... Fanatic-Templar - 28/04/2010 03:15:29 AM 1099 Views
Wrong game Isaac - 29/04/2010 07:25:23 AM 1274 Views
Oh right, that was Darth_Katie's game. Fanatic-Templar - 29/04/2010 07:40:23 AM 1118 Views
Oh... was I... a servant of some kind? Fanatic-Templar - 29/04/2010 07:42:58 AM 1104 Views
He was also lying about being a 'vigilante' BlackAdder - 27/04/2010 09:28:58 PM 1304 Views
She would have outed herself and Bergioyn. Gher - 27/04/2010 09:40:24 PM 1323 Views
Re: She would have outed herself and Bergioyn. BlackAdder - 27/04/2010 09:51:44 PM 1206 Views
Hobo also didn't vote or claim for Blaine. Gher - 27/04/2010 09:59:32 PM 1169 Views
I, for one, STRONGLY doubt that Yuna is a DF beetnemesis - 27/04/2010 11:27:25 PM 1180 Views
I also don't think she is in league with Fox et al. BlackAdder - 28/04/2010 01:00:56 AM 1274 Views
The same thing happened with Blaine, though beetnemesis - 28/04/2010 01:51:53 AM 1315 Views
I'll venture a guess as to what happened... ranagrande - 28/04/2010 02:34:50 AM 1142 Views
Re: I'll venture a guess as to what happened... Talic - 28/04/2010 03:04:43 AM 1127 Views
Wow, that one post helped a lot! I hope this convinces the Yuna-haters beetnemesis - 28/04/2010 06:59:12 AM 1066 Views
Re: Wow, that one post helped a lot! I hope this convinces the Yuna-haters BlackAdder - 28/04/2010 04:26:43 PM 1156 Views
EBWOP - Arguing against my own point BlackAdder - 28/04/2010 04:35:46 PM 1322 Views
Re: Wow, that one post helped a lot! I hope this convinces the Yuna-haters Talic - 28/04/2010 04:47:56 PM 1223 Views
Do you know the specifics of how White Flame's power worked? *NM* beetnemesis - 28/04/2010 05:08:18 PM 618 Views
Nope =/ *NM* Talic - 28/04/2010 06:15:40 PM 702 Views
Re: Wow, that one post helped a lot! I hope this convinces the Yuna-haters BlackAdder - 28/04/2010 06:11:27 PM 1218 Views
Yes, I would. Fanatic-Templar - 28/04/2010 03:21:19 AM 1128 Views
just for the record, that was Blaine *NM* ranagrande - 01/05/2010 02:45:52 PM 712 Views
Ah, thanks. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 01/05/2010 06:44:05 PM 676 Views
Advocate Vote: Gher Gher - 26/04/2010 05:59:16 PM 1095 Views
Re: Advocate Vote: Gher BlackAdder - 26/04/2010 06:09:50 PM 1119 Views
Vote for Ranagrande for Chair Fanatic-Templar - 26/04/2010 06:36:04 PM 1186 Views
LOL, thought you were trying to change votes Isaac - 26/04/2010 06:57:20 PM 1258 Views
Sorry . Fanatic-Templar - 26/04/2010 07:36:24 PM 1209 Views
Chair Vote: Beetnemesis Gher - 26/04/2010 10:55:03 PM 1192 Views
A few questions: Gher - 26/04/2010 06:14:48 PM 1232 Views
Re: A few questions: BlackAdder - 26/04/2010 06:37:58 PM 1374 Views
Honestly, it's because I wasn't convinced. Isaac's deadline forced my hand beetnemesis - 26/04/2010 06:51:24 PM 1107 Views
I didn't see Fox as all that suspicious. Kronin al'Sulc - 26/04/2010 08:36:44 PM 1177 Views
You and your deontological ethics . *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 26/04/2010 09:40:10 PM 721 Views
eh? Yunalesca - 26/04/2010 09:42:30 PM 1303 Views
Fanatic-Templar - 26/04/2010 10:41:42 PM 1194 Views
Re: BlackAdder - 26/04/2010 10:53:33 PM 1156 Views
And you were willing to risk a no-lynch? Gher - 26/04/2010 10:46:31 PM 1197 Views
I honestly did not think that far ahead. Kronin al'Sulc - 27/04/2010 12:59:40 AM 1274 Views
But you didn't offer any real alternatives, or try and persuade us to leave Fox alone. Gher - 27/04/2010 05:05:44 AM 1169 Views
I stuck to my principles, and that's that. Kronin al'Sulc - 27/04/2010 12:30:36 PM 1139 Views
Because killing is good for the town ranagrande - 27/04/2010 04:55:54 PM 1129 Views
The question was rhetorical. Kronin al'Sulc - 27/04/2010 05:05:18 PM 1194 Views
F-T killed him for science ranagrande - 27/04/2010 05:21:07 PM 1218 Views
Yes, my angle came only midway through that lynch. Fanatic-Templar - 27/04/2010 07:26:43 PM 1285 Views
To me it looks like you just waited for the deadline. Gher - 27/04/2010 05:52:37 PM 1193 Views
"I honestly did not think that far ahead." <-------- This is pretty much the same excuse Fox used. Gher - 27/04/2010 05:57:34 PM 1111 Views
I've answered this multiple times. I'm not going to bother again. Kronin al'Sulc - 27/04/2010 06:14:29 PM 1212 Views
Your answer just doesn't jive. Gher - 28/04/2010 02:01:24 AM 1154 Views
What do you want me to say? Kronin al'Sulc - 28/04/2010 02:22:02 AM 1187 Views
All right. *NM* Gher - 28/04/2010 02:30:33 AM 676 Views
. . . . Amys - 26/04/2010 10:20:09 PM 1296 Views
A Vigilante is a Serial Killer that only tries to kill DFs beetnemesis - 26/04/2010 10:27:04 PM 1263 Views
Isn't a vig protown? BlackAdder - 26/04/2010 10:34:59 PM 1195 Views
You know, I'm not sure. Can the town win with the SK still alive? *NM* beetnemesis - 26/04/2010 10:40:36 PM 711 Views
it dosen't look like it Yunalesca - 26/04/2010 10:44:34 PM 1288 Views
No. Gher - 26/04/2010 10:44:35 PM 1284 Views
They win with town, but they're not always good for the town. *NM* Gher - 26/04/2010 10:43:15 PM 637 Views
All right. Gher - 26/04/2010 10:51:42 PM 1209 Views
Re: All right. BlackAdder - 26/04/2010 10:58:44 PM 1087 Views
I think it's meant to be ambiguous. Gher - 26/04/2010 11:00:19 PM 1250 Views
Re: I think it's meant to be ambiguous. BlackAdder - 26/04/2010 11:04:36 PM 1249 Views
I will second that comment. Kronin al'Sulc - 27/04/2010 01:04:02 AM 1238 Views
to be perfectly honest fistofpainx - 27/04/2010 05:02:07 AM 1290 Views
Well of course! If people don't vote, a lynch isn't going to happen. *NM* Gher - 27/04/2010 05:07:32 AM 685 Views
So, what next? ranagrande - 27/04/2010 12:00:10 AM 1212 Views
well, I'll show my hand if you show yours *NM* fistofpainx - 27/04/2010 05:03:56 AM 703 Views
Hold off, for now. Gher - 27/04/2010 05:06:47 AM 1207 Views
Also, Blackadder, I'm not too happy that you skipped hypocopping yesterday. Gher - 27/04/2010 05:02:50 AM 1172 Views
Re: Also, Blackadder, I'm not too happy that you skipped hypocopping yesterday. BlackAdder - 27/04/2010 09:01:12 AM 1273 Views
Yeah, but again, so what? Gher - 28/04/2010 02:00:29 AM 1106 Views
I just realized something... ranagrande - 27/04/2010 05:57:37 PM 1170 Views
Hm. He could've been protecting someone else last night as well beetnemesis - 27/04/2010 06:42:27 PM 1220 Views
Wow, spot on BlackAdder - 27/04/2010 07:06:36 PM 1200 Views
Interesting angle. Fanatic-Templar - 27/04/2010 07:47:28 PM 1191 Views
Re: Interesting angle. BlackAdder - 27/04/2010 09:24:42 PM 1188 Views
That idea is actually very plausible. However... Gher - 27/04/2010 09:57:46 PM 1145 Views
I could sign up for this plan... BlackAdder - 28/04/2010 01:03:23 AM 1336 Views
Yeah. That's not half bad, actually. *NM* beetnemesis - 28/04/2010 06:52:58 AM 638 Views
Fine. Fanatic-Templar - 28/04/2010 03:31:11 AM 1100 Views
I don't like it either, to tell the truth. Gher - 28/04/2010 04:33:50 AM 1045 Views
I'm back Artsapat - 01/05/2010 02:35:43 PM 1122 Views
EBWOP: double post and location Artsapat - 01/05/2010 08:23:10 PM 1105 Views
I'm back Artsapat - 01/05/2010 02:39:07 PM 1186 Views
I have no idea what's going on with George. beetnemesis - 01/05/2010 04:21:16 PM 1201 Views
If you don't mind me saying... Fanatic-Templar - 01/05/2010 06:51:19 PM 1100 Views
Ahhhhh, nice catch beetnemesis - 01/05/2010 07:28:03 PM 1251 Views
Re: If you don't mind me saying... Artsapat - 01/05/2010 08:20:31 PM 1185 Views
I don't think he's a commoner BlackAdder - 05/05/2010 03:35:35 AM 1108 Views
Berg was likely killed because Fox was lynched beetnemesis - 27/04/2010 11:34:04 PM 1210 Views
Again, I say! Vote for beetnemesis- and maybe we'll get an Event! beetnemesis - 27/04/2010 06:46:12 PM 1211 Views
You might want to specify that you're asking for a Chair vote. Gher - 27/04/2010 07:04:27 PM 1176 Views
Ahem. Right. CHAIR Vote for me! beetnemesis - 28/04/2010 01:53:14 AM 1145 Views
I want to plug this one more time. Gher - 29/04/2010 01:09:52 AM 1258 Views
Advocate Vote: Gher Kronin al'Sulc - 29/04/2010 01:46:14 AM 1139 Views
It's the thought that counts. Well, sort of. beetnemesis - 29/04/2010 01:48:56 AM 1128 Views
In my defense, you are anti-vegetable *NM* Kronin al'Sulc - 29/04/2010 01:59:25 AM 649 Views
Also, worst-case scenario... Kronin al'Sulc - 29/04/2010 02:40:50 AM 1198 Views
The Event will be that Gher and I magnify each others' power and become as unto GODS beetnemesis - 29/04/2010 06:37:42 AM 1163 Views
But yeah, I think I need one more vote- hey, quiet types! Chair Vote me! beetnemesis - 29/04/2010 06:40:38 AM 1278 Views
I'm starting to like this idea a lot too ranagrande - 29/04/2010 02:26:28 AM 1177 Views
So, do we know... ANYTHING about Darth Katie? beetnemesis - 27/04/2010 06:59:04 PM 1152 Views
Re: So, do we know... ANYTHING about Darth Katie? BlackAdder - 27/04/2010 07:17:16 PM 1137 Views
Re: So, do we know... ANYTHING about Darth Katie? Talic - 27/04/2010 11:50:06 PM 1215 Views
She's RBIRL Isaac - 27/04/2010 07:31:21 PM 1181 Views
Good to know... but doesn't exactly change things beetnemesis - 27/04/2010 11:35:30 PM 1181 Views
You may have noticed Darth_Katie - 28/04/2010 04:23:44 AM 1154 Views
My point was more that we know nothing about you beetnemesis - 28/04/2010 06:51:00 AM 1177 Views
Yunalesca: Gher - 28/04/2010 01:58:28 AM 1239 Views
Fox couldn't have been behind killing White Flame ranagrande - 28/04/2010 02:19:19 AM 1199 Views
Yeah, my bad. Gher - 28/04/2010 02:22:46 AM 1235 Views
Also: Gher - 28/04/2010 02:29:29 AM 1065 Views
yes to several *NM* Yunalesca - 28/04/2010 11:25:56 AM 660 Views
EBWOP Yunalesca - 28/04/2010 11:27:53 AM 1155 Views
More questions: Gher - 28/04/2010 03:52:20 PM 1274 Views
Re: More answers Yunalesca - 28/04/2010 07:40:27 PM 1216 Views
You still haven't answered the most important one. Gher - 29/04/2010 01:06:47 AM 1205 Views
Re: You still haven't answered the most important one. Yunalesca - 29/04/2010 11:33:48 AM 1189 Views
That's good to know ranagrande - 29/04/2010 03:12:48 PM 1242 Views
RBIRL until May 7th or 8th Darth_Katie - 28/04/2010 04:30:26 AM 1254 Views
Re: RBIRL until May 7th or 8th Fox and Ravens - 28/04/2010 05:54:54 AM 1284 Views
Oh, Amys and Artsapat- hypocop, please beetnemesis - 28/04/2010 07:43:38 AM 1225 Views
RBIRL BlackAdder - 29/04/2010 08:46:11 PM 1211 Views
about the mass roleclaim ranagrande - 01/05/2010 02:31:59 PM 1240 Views
Guys! 5 minutes left! beetnemesis - 30/04/2010 01:55:36 AM 1212 Views
Goes to first one voted for. *NM* Kronin al'Sulc - 30/04/2010 02:00:33 AM 687 Views
Re: Guys! 5 minutes left! Isaac - 30/04/2010 03:44:40 AM 1194 Views
Looks right to me. Oh, well. At least now I can start accusing people beetnemesis - 30/04/2010 04:34:51 AM 1219 Views
Random Values needed, C-11 thanks Isaac - 30/04/2010 04:36:26 AM 1142 Views
C *NM* Kronin al'Sulc - 30/04/2010 04:43:47 AM 656 Views
11 *NM* Talic - 30/04/2010 05:46:13 AM 627 Views
Event: Lunch Interlude Day 3 Isaac - 30/04/2010 08:37:51 PM 1166 Views
So, just so I'm sure I'm reading this right... beetnemesis - 30/04/2010 10:18:48 PM 1156 Views
So, here's the post I was going to make a couple days ago, before I decided to wait for Lunch beetnemesis - 30/04/2010 10:24:56 PM 1221 Views
I think you're right about Artsapat ranagrande - 01/05/2010 02:44:24 PM 1201 Views
...that's right, I'd forgotten about that. beetnemesis - 01/05/2010 04:09:28 PM 1131 Views
You know, looking at your summary post.... Kronin al'Sulc - 01/05/2010 04:56:38 PM 1181 Views
Re: So, here's the post I was going to make a couple days ago, before I decided to wait for Lunch Artsapat - 02/05/2010 12:32:54 PM 1192 Views
EBWOP: I just saw that Black DID hypocop Today. I missed it when I glanced up. *NM* Artsapat - 02/05/2010 12:36:56 PM 689 Views
Oh, and Yuna: Do you have a night kill every night? beetnemesis - 30/04/2010 10:26:52 PM 1081 Views
Re: Oh, and Yuna: Do you have a night kill every night? Yunalesca - 30/04/2010 10:52:27 PM 1128 Views
by the way fistofpainx - 02/05/2010 06:32:44 AM 1183 Views
it should be obvious Yunalesca - 02/05/2010 06:40:32 PM 1414 Views
Re: it should be obvious Amys - 02/05/2010 07:12:44 PM 1245 Views
Re: it should be obvious Artsapat - 02/05/2010 07:31:47 PM 1097 Views
once again Yunalesca - 02/05/2010 11:41:56 PM 1168 Views
RBIRL Gher - 01/05/2010 03:46:59 PM 1201 Views
Yeah!! Go Jazz!! *NM* Hobo - 01/05/2010 09:49:49 PM 711 Views
Before we lynch anyone today Gher - 02/05/2010 09:57:25 PM 1290 Views
thats fine with me *NM* Yunalesca - 02/05/2010 11:27:31 PM 694 Views
I suggest lynch Artsapat, NK Darth Katie *NM* beetnemesis - 03/05/2010 12:45:45 AM 662 Views
I support this plan. ranagrande - 03/05/2010 02:59:11 AM 1133 Views
That's fine, but it might be wise to take contingencies into account. Fanatic-Templar - 03/05/2010 03:02:10 AM 1103 Views
Any suggestions? I can't see any contingencies for lynching Arty *NM* beetnemesis - 03/05/2010 03:42:06 AM 610 Views
Definitely Gher - 03/05/2010 05:07:02 AM 1299 Views
Why do you think mass roleclaiming is a good idea? beetnemesis - 03/05/2010 05:43:34 AM 1154 Views
I don't. Gher - 03/05/2010 04:23:14 PM 1170 Views
Sounds like a good idea to me. BlackAdder - 03/05/2010 03:23:21 PM 1126 Views
I usually disagree with mass rolelcaims on principle. Fanatic-Templar - 03/05/2010 07:16:58 PM 1140 Views
Quick RP Mafia Note Isaac - 03/05/2010 03:00:14 AM 1049 Views
Right, so Artsapat: beetnemesis - 03/05/2010 04:50:04 PM 1108 Views
I still have no idea why we're supposed to trust Yunalesca now. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 03/05/2010 07:17:39 PM 651 Views
Pretty much everything we've seen has confirmed her claims. beetnemesis - 03/05/2010 08:39:16 PM 1197 Views
None of those claims were the reason she's suspicious. Fanatic-Templar - 03/05/2010 09:08:13 PM 1235 Views
Hm. We could all hypocop her tomorrow? beetnemesis - 04/05/2010 01:43:13 AM 1323 Views
Re: None of those claims were the reason she's suspicious. BlackAdder - 04/05/2010 09:12:16 PM 1217 Views
Not to mention that it's common for Darkfriends to accuse each other to divert suspicion. Fanatic-Templar - 04/05/2010 09:23:14 PM 1251 Views
She'll need a darn good explanation if she "goes off target" Gher - 03/05/2010 09:09:53 PM 1140 Views
so what exactly makes artspat a good choice? fistofpainx - 04/05/2010 12:26:12 AM 1201 Views
Well, here's my summary: beetnemesis - 04/05/2010 02:00:16 AM 1226 Views
Come on, as I pointed out, the timing doesn't support that. Artsapat - 04/05/2010 07:44:37 AM 1308 Views
Basically, it's ALL part of the game beetnemesis - 04/05/2010 05:26:35 PM 1174 Views
All right, I'll come clean Artsapat - 04/05/2010 08:21:36 AM 1213 Views
Fabulous Amys - 04/05/2010 09:20:07 AM 1217 Views
Unvote ranagrande - 04/05/2010 01:02:27 PM 1255 Views
You couldn't have seen him dozing in a chair in his room. He spent the Night in Talic's room. Gher - 04/05/2010 03:38:40 PM 1169 Views
No idea about the timing of my Night message. Artsapat - 04/05/2010 03:52:26 PM 1182 Views
How long were you outside White Flame's window? *NM* Gher - 04/05/2010 05:09:24 PM 675 Views
No idea. Sorry Artsapat - 04/05/2010 07:49:36 PM 1134 Views
Re: No idea. Sorry BlackAdder - 04/05/2010 09:34:41 PM 1262 Views
...This is kind of weird beetnemesis - 05/05/2010 01:58:26 AM 1081 Views
I am inclined to agree. Fanatic-Templar - 05/05/2010 02:20:26 AM 1194 Views
He said he saw Bergioyn do it, unless I completely misread what he wrote. BlackAdder - 05/05/2010 03:47:02 AM 1139 Views
Nope- you misread. Both Arty and Lunch #3 tell us that the Watcher didn't see the killer beetnemesis - 05/05/2010 04:26:25 AM 1137 Views
The thing that makes me suspicious: Kronin al'Sulc - 05/05/2010 12:02:27 PM 1210 Views
That's true... Hey! Did anyone else Watch White Flame (or track Berg)? If so, we could use your help beetnemesis - 05/05/2010 06:31:05 PM 1180 Views
Re: ...This is kind of weird Artsapat - 05/05/2010 11:31:47 AM 1246 Views
So... you're saying that you heard Bergioyn die, just as he killed White Flame? *NM* beetnemesis - 05/05/2010 06:27:32 PM 649 Views
Well, just for curiosity's sake, I went back and re-read my Dawn message BlackAdder - 05/05/2010 09:29:36 PM 1120 Views
Re: Well, just for curiosity's sake, I went back and re-read my Dawn message Yunalesca - 06/05/2010 12:16:16 AM 1259 Views
Well, tbh, even that was stated by Isaac in the opening scene *NM* BlackAdder - 05/05/2010 09:38:45 PM 680 Views
^^^btw, that post is not actually an *NM* but I can't edit it *NM* BlackAdder - 05/05/2010 09:40:35 PM 647 Views
This was basically what I was getting at beetnemesis - 05/05/2010 11:36:07 PM 1176 Views
Re: This was basically what I was getting at BlackAdder - 06/05/2010 12:06:52 AM 1232 Views
According to the Day Message, the scream was White Flame... Gher - 06/05/2010 02:34:41 AM 1213 Views
Re: According to the Day Message, the scream was White Flame... BlackAdder - 06/05/2010 03:41:18 AM 1125 Views
Or whomever found White Flame. Gher - 06/05/2010 04:22:20 AM 1123 Views
Interesting. Unvote, for now beetnemesis - 04/05/2010 05:42:18 PM 1150 Views
Re: Interesting. Unvote, for now BlackAdder - 04/05/2010 09:39:23 PM 1166 Views
I'm curious- what's the flavor of your role? beetnemesis - 04/05/2010 05:50:04 PM 1180 Views
Re: I'm curious- what's the flavor of your role? Artsapat - 04/05/2010 07:59:35 PM 1148 Views
Job security... so who are you working for? ranagrande - 05/05/2010 12:15:23 AM 1234 Views
I am unable to do anything at all, every single night. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 05/05/2010 01:36:57 AM 669 Views
So, are you claiming vanilla, then? Or Day Mason? *NM* Artsapat - 05/05/2010 12:46:16 PM 677 Views
I'm not claiming anything. Fanatic-Templar - 05/05/2010 07:53:04 PM 1179 Views
I think there was a role last game Isaac hosted that couldn't use their powers on consecutive nights Gher - 05/05/2010 01:47:38 AM 1108 Views
Re: All right, I'll come clean BlackAdder - 04/05/2010 09:30:29 PM 1183 Views
Some answers Artsapat - 05/05/2010 12:43:49 PM 1424 Views
Vote: Artsapat ranagrande - 05/05/2010 02:08:06 PM 1189 Views
Re: Vote: Artsapat Artsapat - 05/05/2010 02:21:59 PM 1185 Views
Er... what evidence? You said that all you saw was White Flame was killed beetnemesis - 05/05/2010 06:22:03 PM 1205 Views
Re: Some answers BlackAdder - 05/05/2010 09:22:47 PM 1154 Views
You know, I don't like the details of your role... Kronin al'Sulc - 05/05/2010 03:26:20 AM 1106 Views
Hmmm. . . Amys - 04/05/2010 09:30:27 AM 1238 Views
So you do have a bite Artsapat - 04/05/2010 12:09:35 PM 1249 Views
Who doesn't? Amys - 04/05/2010 04:53:56 PM 1192 Views
Re: So you do have a bite BlackAdder - 05/05/2010 03:54:03 AM 1171 Views
Eh. Roles are good... but what have they gotten us so far? beetnemesis - 05/05/2010 04:30:23 AM 1123 Views
Yes, but having such a severe vote restriction, and no other powers as a townie, would suck. *NM* BlackAdder - 05/05/2010 09:25:05 PM 646 Views
Isaac I'm just going to ignore Update 21 because it makes my head hurt *NM* beetnemesis - 04/05/2010 01:52:02 AM 633 Views
RBIRL - APs *sigh* Kronin al'Sulc - 05/05/2010 12:59:49 AM 1261 Views
RBIRL Yunalesca - 05/05/2010 04:19:43 PM 1140 Views
Ok, so Artsapat, your story isn't totally adding up beetnemesis - 06/05/2010 01:57:09 AM 1151 Views
Again... Kronin al'Sulc - 06/05/2010 02:02:49 AM 1210 Views
EBWOP: "The Lunch ISN'T backing him up." *NM* Kronin al'Sulc - 06/05/2010 02:03:45 AM 669 Views
Yeah this is what I'm thinking as well Talic - 06/05/2010 02:44:59 AM 1411 Views
Yeah, a Watcher role that doesn't actually get any results? Gher - 06/05/2010 02:38:11 AM 1198 Views
He's actually a Watcher/Tracker apparently. Kronin al'Sulc - 06/05/2010 02:44:20 AM 1187 Views
To all the people voting Artsapat BlackAdder - 06/05/2010 03:56:15 AM 1271 Views
^^^i.e., Amys, ranagrande, Talic, Kronin al'Sulc (I think that means L-2 with a VNTL of 6) *NM* BlackAdder - 06/05/2010 04:02:23 AM 1150 Views
L-1, Ranagrande is Chair. Fanatic-Templar - 06/05/2010 04:35:44 AM 1270 Views
Oh, well nevermind. Too late it seems. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 06/05/2010 04:37:08 AM 631 Views
Yup, too late. BlackAdder - 06/05/2010 05:07:57 AM 1280 Views
So he's a Watcher/Tracker that doesn't actually get any results? How is that better? *NM* Gher - 06/05/2010 04:17:47 AM 663 Views
Eh. Sorry Arty, but the evidence has stacked up. Yuna, remember to kill DK beetnemesis - 06/05/2010 04:13:38 AM 1159 Views
Hold up. DK really? Gher - 06/05/2010 04:25:04 AM 1262 Views
DK has some negative points against her BlackAdder - 06/05/2010 05:17:42 AM 1231 Views
watcher that does not see fistofpainx - 06/05/2010 04:15:48 AM 1300 Views
Twilight - Artsapat has been Lynched Isaac - 06/05/2010 04:50:35 AM 1182 Views
Nicely played by the way, well done Artsapat Isaac - 06/05/2010 05:51:21 AM 1210 Views
Indeed. Gher - 06/05/2010 06:21:58 AM 1130 Views
Yeah, seriously. beetnemesis - 06/05/2010 06:31:57 AM 1185 Views
Re: Nicely played by the way, well done Artsapat Artsapat - 06/05/2010 07:17:12 AM 1167 Views
*NM* BlackAdder - 06/05/2010 07:22:40 AM 595 Views
Night Deadline extension Isaac - 06/05/2010 07:32:40 AM 1438 Views
RBIRL ranagrande - 06/05/2010 11:09:32 PM 1112 Views
Whoa you guys are still playing? Sweet. I totally forgot about this. *NM* Marshall - 07/05/2010 09:40:26 PM 817 Views
Oh hell yeah, man. Fox and Ravens - 07/05/2010 11:03:26 PM 1090 Views
Long time no see Isaac - 08/05/2010 01:35:23 PM 1272 Views
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