It still doesn't seem right that we'd let her live after such a consistent anti-Light record, but there is probably more to gain by your method.
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Yunalesca has a bad track record right now. Part of that blame can be defused/diluted with Bergioyn, and some of it can be credited to Fox scheming. But they still broke the cardinal rule of vigs (again, probably at Fox's urging), and didn't pick very good targets in my mind.
I don't know what they saw in Hobo, to be honest. White Flame I can understand, I was looking at him for lynching, or at least interrogating Today. But he did vote for Fox early, and voting records are very important to consider.
But apart from all that, I don't want to throw away a Night Kill we can control, even if in all likelihood, we'll only get one kill out of her (assuming she doesn't get roleblocked), but she can at least take the hit for the Town tonight.
That leads me to another question: Yunalesca, were you roleblocked last Night? Perhaps the DFs thought to neutralize your kill by roleblocking one of you, and killing the other. Though I assume you would have mentioned it by now if you had been blocked.
"And it breaks my heart to look around, and see the unimpressed; who can't believe the emperor is dressed"~Fastball
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RAFO Mafia 16, Day 3: In the Manor of Mad Muad (Ended)
- 25/04/2010 10:53:09 PM
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General Info from the Moderator: Update 23
- 26/04/2010 01:25:44 AM
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Yeesh.
- 26/04/2010 02:00:15 AM
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There is a hint that there are multiple Aes Sedai
- 26/04/2010 02:13:59 AM
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Anyone who he knew was an Aes Sedai.
- 26/04/2010 02:27:58 AM
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Oh, that's true. Well, still a hint there are multiple Aes Sedai.
- 26/04/2010 02:30:40 AM
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Not necessarily.
- 26/04/2010 03:03:03 AM
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Hm. Well, OK. This told us a lot.
- 26/04/2010 02:09:30 AM
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Off to See How to Train Your Dragon- I expect big things when I return! *NM*
- 26/04/2010 02:14:36 AM
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Oh, and: The Salds are, of cours, Yunalesca and one other person, I'm guessing
- 26/04/2010 02:15:55 AM
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Yunalesa is the only other claimed Saldaean
- 26/04/2010 02:22:27 AM
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Eh, they're Masons
- 26/04/2010 05:40:20 AM
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Also, regarding the Chair role
- 26/04/2010 02:27:43 AM
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Someone has a double vote?
- 26/04/2010 02:47:11 AM
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Yes, at the end of yesterday
- 26/04/2010 03:33:32 AM
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You're forgetting a couple
- 26/04/2010 03:37:59 AM
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BlackAdder is correct, with a minor correlary
- 26/04/2010 05:46:29 AM
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Why not Talic? *NM*
- 26/04/2010 06:08:14 AM
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Eh. Newbie Tinker from the White Tower
- 26/04/2010 06:28:30 AM
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Roles are distributed randomly. *NM*
- 26/04/2010 06:32:59 AM
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Sez who?
- 26/04/2010 06:36:20 AM
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Yes. *NM*
- 26/04/2010 06:55:42 AM
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Er... where? I just searched, but maybe I'm missing something
- 26/04/2010 07:06:44 AM
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He said it in the first game he modded, which I think is lost to Wotmania.
- 26/04/2010 07:21:18 AM
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Mmm. OK, it's possible. I remain unconvinced, though- we'll ask Isaac after the game ends *NM*
- 26/04/2010 07:43:37 AM
730 Views
Random with a Caveat
- 26/04/2010 03:43:29 PM
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Why would Shienarans have political clout?
- 26/04/2010 06:16:16 AM
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We're in Shienar, aren't we?
- 26/04/2010 06:17:55 AM
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Saldaea.
- 26/04/2010 06:19:19 AM
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Dammit. Hm. Well, I suppose that does make him less likely, though not impossible
- 26/04/2010 06:25:30 AM
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You can't change your vote anyway. *NM*
- 26/04/2010 05:30:56 PM
681 Views
Oh, right. Well, OK. Everyone: Vote beetnemesis for Chair! A vote for beet is a vote for... um
- 26/04/2010 05:39:15 PM
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Oh, there's another reason people should vote for me (and Gher):
- 26/04/2010 10:19:34 PM
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Re: Oh, there's another reason people should vote for me (and Gher):
- 26/04/2010 10:29:35 PM
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Same benefit as every other Day.
- 26/04/2010 03:08:59 AM
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I do object
- 26/04/2010 03:43:34 AM
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Mod clarification
- 26/04/2010 02:37:52 AM
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I doubt it.
- 26/04/2010 02:39:16 AM
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Re: I doubt it.
- 26/04/2010 03:24:27 AM
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EBWOP: i.e. literally means "that is"
- 26/04/2010 03:43:32 AM
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Yeah, that makes me nervous too.
- 26/04/2010 02:46:19 AM
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Probably he just copy-pasted from Fox's role message
.
- 26/04/2010 03:09:44 AM
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.
- 26/04/2010 03:09:44 AM
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It's my understanding that the Mod almighty does not make mistakes
*NM*
- 26/04/2010 03:44:43 AM
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*NM*
- 26/04/2010 03:44:43 AM
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He does, not many thankfully, which requires a lot of triple-checking
- 26/04/2010 04:10:17 AM
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Wait, so you're saying that wasn't a mistake?
- 26/04/2010 06:26:15 AM
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Isaac's changed it to "e.g." Berg. could not vote with the Darkfriends. *NM*
- 26/04/2010 05:30:25 PM
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some thoughts on the double NK
- 26/04/2010 03:04:29 AM
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Re: some thoughts on the double NK
- 26/04/2010 04:09:00 AM
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Yeah, I don't think who ever's making the extra kills is pro-town.
- 26/04/2010 04:15:12 AM
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Hey, glad the Darkfriends didn't decide to 'finish the job' last night
.
- 26/04/2010 03:20:48 AM
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.
- 26/04/2010 03:20:48 AM
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Re: Hey, glad the Darkfriends didn't decide to 'finish the job' last night
.
- 26/04/2010 03:55:00 AM
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.
- 26/04/2010 03:55:00 AM
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Yuna (and George) didn't vote for Fox because they were part of the Saldaean Group. Others may be DF
- 26/04/2010 06:14:48 AM
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Why just me and Katie?
- 26/04/2010 01:13:40 PM
1155 Views
Something else: fistofpainx and BlackAdder are very likely innocent
- 26/04/2010 06:17:38 AM
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Hypocop Table- Night 2 [Table]
- 26/04/2010 06:42:46 AM
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I found White Flame of Tar Valon to be innocent. *NM*
- 26/04/2010 05:56:39 PM
679 Views
Really? The dead guy? Some cop you are
*NM*
- 26/04/2010 06:07:04 PM
660 Views
*NM*
- 26/04/2010 06:07:04 PM
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The cop wouldn't have known last Night that White Flame would end up dead.
- 26/04/2010 06:16:05 PM
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Also, dead guys probably have a slightly higher chance of being hypocopped.
- 26/04/2010 06:22:59 PM
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kay so, here's what i know
- 26/04/2010 03:42:19 PM
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That is... incredibly disappointing.
- 26/04/2010 05:49:25 PM
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right, everything i know then
- 26/04/2010 08:49:17 PM
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so who did you choose to kill Nights 1 and 2? *NM*
- 26/04/2010 08:56:45 PM
656 Views
Re: so who did you choose to kill Nights 1 and 2?
- 26/04/2010 09:20:41 PM
1313 Views
So you can both channel?
- 26/04/2010 09:43:44 PM
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i can't channel
- 26/04/2010 09:49:54 PM
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Hmm
- 26/04/2010 10:14:06 PM
1298 Views
No real reasons for killing
- 27/04/2010 01:01:37 AM
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EBWOP: There was supposed to be a question mark on that title. *NM*
- 27/04/2010 01:21:45 AM
651 Views
Great! Thanks. OK, so that's our vig.
- 26/04/2010 10:14:03 PM
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Re: Great! Thanks. OK, so that's our vig.
- 26/04/2010 10:17:21 PM
1204 Views
Yes, it really does matter
- 26/04/2010 10:22:10 PM
1096 Views
As a matter of fact...
- 26/04/2010 10:46:01 PM
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EBWOP: Notice how what Isaac says doesn't mean Fox was telling the truth about not being George. *NM*
- 26/04/2010 10:47:32 PM
656 Views
I remain suspicious of you.
- 26/04/2010 10:44:59 PM
1210 Views
To be fair... people ALWAYS kill Hobo
- 26/04/2010 10:54:14 PM
1215 Views
I'd rather not discount warranted suspicions because someone can offer plausible justification.
- 27/04/2010 01:02:50 AM
1132 Views
Why did neither you nor Bergioyn speak up when Fox claimed vanilla? *NM*
- 27/04/2010 01:41:35 AM
675 Views
i don't know why Ber didn't
- 27/04/2010 12:10:47 PM
1299 Views
Well, you knew he was lying, then. Why not vote him? *NM*
- 27/04/2010 07:09:55 PM
673 Views
because i thought he was simply lying about being a mason
- 27/04/2010 08:27:00 PM
1206 Views
It would have been dumb of you to lynch a known liar?
- 27/04/2010 08:32:15 PM
1287 Views
oh come on!
- 27/04/2010 10:38:35 PM
1237 Views
The first night message I sent him...
- 28/04/2010 03:15:29 AM
1075 Views
Wrong game
- 29/04/2010 07:25:23 AM
1241 Views
He was also lying about being a 'vigilante'
- 27/04/2010 09:28:58 PM
1269 Views
She would have outed herself and Bergioyn.
- 27/04/2010 09:40:24 PM
1283 Views
I, for one, STRONGLY doubt that Yuna is a DF
- 27/04/2010 11:27:25 PM
1147 Views
I also don't think she is in league with Fox et al.
- 28/04/2010 01:00:56 AM
1240 Views
The same thing happened with Blaine, though
- 28/04/2010 01:51:53 AM
1285 Views
I'll venture a guess as to what happened...
- 28/04/2010 02:34:50 AM
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Re: I'll venture a guess as to what happened...
- 28/04/2010 03:04:43 AM
1100 Views
Wow, that one post helped a lot! I hope this convinces the Yuna-haters
- 28/04/2010 06:59:12 AM
1036 Views
Re: Wow, that one post helped a lot! I hope this convinces the Yuna-haters
- 28/04/2010 04:26:43 PM
1123 Views
Re: Wow, that one post helped a lot! I hope this convinces the Yuna-haters
- 28/04/2010 04:47:56 PM
1195 Views
Do you know the specifics of how White Flame's power worked? *NM*
- 28/04/2010 05:08:18 PM
601 Views
Re: Wow, that one post helped a lot! I hope this convinces the Yuna-haters
- 28/04/2010 06:11:27 PM
1193 Views
Yes, I would.
- 28/04/2010 03:21:19 AM
1104 Views
Advocate Vote: Gher
- 26/04/2010 05:59:16 PM
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Vote for Ranagrande for Chair
- 26/04/2010 06:36:04 PM
1153 Views
A few questions:
- 26/04/2010 06:14:48 PM
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Honestly, it's because I wasn't convinced. Isaac's deadline forced my hand
- 26/04/2010 06:51:24 PM
1085 Views
I didn't see Fox as all that suspicious.
- 26/04/2010 08:36:44 PM
1152 Views
And you were willing to risk a no-lynch?
- 26/04/2010 10:46:31 PM
1169 Views
I honestly did not think that far ahead.
- 27/04/2010 12:59:40 AM
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But you didn't offer any real alternatives, or try and persuade us to leave Fox alone.
- 27/04/2010 05:05:44 AM
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I stuck to my principles, and that's that.
- 27/04/2010 12:30:36 PM
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Because killing is good for the town
- 27/04/2010 04:55:54 PM
1099 Views
The question was rhetorical.
- 27/04/2010 05:05:18 PM
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"I honestly did not think that far ahead." <-------- This is pretty much the same excuse Fox used.
- 27/04/2010 05:57:34 PM
1077 Views
I've answered this multiple times. I'm not going to bother again.
- 27/04/2010 06:14:29 PM
1181 Views
Your answer just doesn't jive.
- 28/04/2010 02:01:24 AM
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. . . .
- 26/04/2010 10:20:09 PM
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A Vigilante is a Serial Killer that only tries to kill DFs
- 26/04/2010 10:27:04 PM
1239 Views
Isn't a vig protown?
- 26/04/2010 10:34:59 PM
1154 Views
You know, I'm not sure. Can the town win with the SK still alive? *NM*
- 26/04/2010 10:40:36 PM
701 Views
They win with town, but they're not always good for the town. *NM*
- 26/04/2010 10:43:15 PM
623 Views
All right.
- 26/04/2010 10:51:42 PM
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Re: All right.
- 26/04/2010 10:58:44 PM
1058 Views
to be perfectly honest
- 27/04/2010 05:02:07 AM
1264 Views
Well of course! If people don't vote, a lynch isn't going to happen.
*NM*
- 27/04/2010 05:07:32 AM
669 Views
*NM*
- 27/04/2010 05:07:32 AM
669 Views
Also, Blackadder, I'm not too happy that you skipped hypocopping yesterday.
- 27/04/2010 05:02:50 AM
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Re: Also, Blackadder, I'm not too happy that you skipped hypocopping yesterday.
- 27/04/2010 09:01:12 AM
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I just realized something...
- 27/04/2010 05:57:37 PM
1146 Views
Wow, spot on
- 27/04/2010 07:06:36 PM
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Interesting angle.
- 27/04/2010 07:47:28 PM
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Re: Interesting angle.
- 27/04/2010 09:24:42 PM
1153 Views
That idea is actually very plausible. However...
- 27/04/2010 09:57:46 PM
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Fine.
- 28/04/2010 03:31:11 AM
1069 Views
I don't like it either, to tell the truth.
- 28/04/2010 04:33:50 AM
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I'm back
- 01/05/2010 02:39:07 PM
1162 Views
I have no idea what's going on with George.
- 01/05/2010 04:21:16 PM
1173 Views
Again, I say! Vote for beetnemesis- and maybe we'll get an Event!
- 27/04/2010 06:46:12 PM
1186 Views
You might want to specify that you're asking for a Chair vote.
- 27/04/2010 07:04:27 PM
1144 Views
Ahem. Right. CHAIR Vote for me!
- 28/04/2010 01:53:14 AM
1119 Views
Advocate Vote: Gher
- 29/04/2010 01:46:14 AM
1110 Views
It's the thought that counts. Well, sort of.
- 29/04/2010 01:48:56 AM
1098 Views
In my defense, you are anti-vegetable *NM*
- 29/04/2010 01:59:25 AM
637 Views
Also, worst-case scenario...
- 29/04/2010 02:40:50 AM
1172 Views
The Event will be that Gher and I magnify each others' power and become as unto GODS
- 29/04/2010 06:37:42 AM
1131 Views
But yeah, I think I need one more vote- hey, quiet types! Chair Vote me!
- 29/04/2010 06:40:38 AM
1246 Views
So, do we know... ANYTHING about Darth Katie?
- 27/04/2010 06:59:04 PM
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Yunalesca:
- 28/04/2010 01:58:28 AM
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Also:
- 28/04/2010 02:29:29 AM
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yes to several *NM*
- 28/04/2010 11:25:56 AM
650 Views
EBWOP
- 28/04/2010 11:27:53 AM
1130 Views
More questions:
- 28/04/2010 03:52:20 PM
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Re: More answers
- 28/04/2010 07:40:27 PM
1170 Views
You still haven't answered the most important one.
- 29/04/2010 01:06:47 AM
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Guys! 5 minutes left!
- 30/04/2010 01:55:36 AM
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Re: Guys! 5 minutes left!
- 30/04/2010 03:44:40 AM
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Looks right to me. Oh, well. At least now I can start accusing people
- 30/04/2010 04:34:51 AM
1193 Views
So, here's the post I was going to make a couple days ago, before I decided to wait for Lunch
- 30/04/2010 10:24:56 PM
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I think you're right about Artsapat
- 01/05/2010 02:44:24 PM
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Re: So, here's the post I was going to make a couple days ago, before I decided to wait for Lunch
- 02/05/2010 12:32:54 PM
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EBWOP: I just saw that Black DID hypocop Today. I missed it when I glanced up. *NM*
- 02/05/2010 12:36:56 PM
677 Views
Oh, and Yuna: Do you have a night kill every night?
- 30/04/2010 10:26:52 PM
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Re: Oh, and Yuna: Do you have a night kill every night?
- 30/04/2010 10:52:27 PM
1101 Views
by the way
- 02/05/2010 06:32:44 AM
1156 Views
it should be obvious
- 02/05/2010 06:40:32 PM
1379 Views
Before we lynch anyone today
- 02/05/2010 09:57:25 PM
1265 Views
That's fine, but it might be wise to take contingencies into account.
- 03/05/2010 03:02:10 AM
1077 Views
Any suggestions? I can't see any contingencies for lynching Arty *NM*
- 03/05/2010 03:42:06 AM
598 Views
Definitely
- 03/05/2010 05:07:02 AM
1263 Views
Right, so Artsapat:
- 03/05/2010 04:50:04 PM
1078 Views
I still have no idea why we're supposed to trust Yunalesca now. *NM*
- 03/05/2010 07:17:39 PM
636 Views
Pretty much everything we've seen has confirmed her claims.
- 03/05/2010 08:39:16 PM
1169 Views
None of those claims were the reason she's suspicious.
- 03/05/2010 09:08:13 PM
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Re: None of those claims were the reason she's suspicious.
- 04/05/2010 09:12:16 PM
1192 Views
Not to mention that it's common for Darkfriends to accuse each other to divert suspicion.
- 04/05/2010 09:23:14 PM
1226 Views
so what exactly makes artspat a good choice?
- 04/05/2010 12:26:12 AM
1176 Views
Well, here's my summary:
- 04/05/2010 02:00:16 AM
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All right, I'll come clean
- 04/05/2010 08:21:36 AM
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You couldn't have seen him dozing in a chair in his room. He spent the Night in Talic's room.
- 04/05/2010 03:38:40 PM
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No idea about the timing of my Night message.
- 04/05/2010 03:52:26 PM
1157 Views
How long were you outside White Flame's window? *NM*
- 04/05/2010 05:09:24 PM
661 Views
No idea. Sorry
- 04/05/2010 07:49:36 PM
1109 Views
...This is kind of weird
- 05/05/2010 01:58:26 AM
1056 Views
He said he saw Bergioyn do it, unless I completely misread what he wrote.
- 05/05/2010 03:47:02 AM
1098 Views
Nope- you misread. Both Arty and Lunch #3 tell us that the Watcher didn't see the killer
- 05/05/2010 04:26:25 AM
1113 Views
The thing that makes me suspicious:
- 05/05/2010 12:02:27 PM
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That's true... Hey! Did anyone else Watch White Flame (or track Berg)? If so, we could use your help
- 05/05/2010 06:31:05 PM
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Re: ...This is kind of weird
- 05/05/2010 11:31:47 AM
1211 Views
So... you're saying that you heard Bergioyn die, just as he killed White Flame? *NM*
- 05/05/2010 06:27:32 PM
638 Views
Well, just for curiosity's sake, I went back and re-read my Dawn message
- 05/05/2010 09:29:36 PM
1093 Views
Re: Well, just for curiosity's sake, I went back and re-read my Dawn message
- 06/05/2010 12:16:16 AM
1235 Views
Well, tbh, even that was stated by Isaac in the opening scene *NM*
- 05/05/2010 09:38:45 PM
661 Views
^^^btw, that post is not actually an *NM* but I can't edit it *NM*
- 05/05/2010 09:40:35 PM
630 Views
This was basically what I was getting at
- 05/05/2010 11:36:07 PM
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Re: This was basically what I was getting at
- 06/05/2010 12:06:52 AM
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According to the Day Message, the scream was White Flame...
- 06/05/2010 02:34:41 AM
1181 Views
I'm curious- what's the flavor of your role?
- 04/05/2010 05:50:04 PM
1150 Views
Re: I'm curious- what's the flavor of your role?
- 04/05/2010 07:59:35 PM
1122 Views
Job security... so who are you working for?
- 05/05/2010 12:15:23 AM
1198 Views
I am unable to do anything at all, every single night. *NM*
- 05/05/2010 01:36:57 AM
657 Views
I think there was a role last game Isaac hosted that couldn't use their powers on consecutive nights
- 05/05/2010 01:47:38 AM
1085 Views
Re: All right, I'll come clean
- 04/05/2010 09:30:29 PM
1158 Views
Some answers
- 05/05/2010 12:43:49 PM
1386 Views
Vote: Artsapat
- 05/05/2010 02:08:06 PM
1159 Views
Re: Vote: Artsapat
- 05/05/2010 02:21:59 PM
1161 Views
Er... what evidence? You said that all you saw was White Flame was killed
- 05/05/2010 06:22:03 PM
1174 Views
Hmmm. . .
- 04/05/2010 09:30:27 AM
1213 Views
So you do have a bite
- 04/05/2010 12:09:35 PM
1222 Views
Re: So you do have a bite
- 05/05/2010 03:54:03 AM
1140 Views
Eh. Roles are good... but what have they gotten us so far?
- 05/05/2010 04:30:23 AM
1097 Views
Yes, but having such a severe vote restriction, and no other powers as a townie, would suck. *NM*
- 05/05/2010 09:25:05 PM
636 Views
Isaac I'm just going to ignore Update 21 because it makes my head hurt *NM*
- 04/05/2010 01:52:02 AM
616 Views
Ok, so Artsapat, your story isn't totally adding up
- 06/05/2010 01:57:09 AM
1117 Views
Yeah, a Watcher role that doesn't actually get any results?
- 06/05/2010 02:38:11 AM
1162 Views
He's actually a Watcher/Tracker apparently.
- 06/05/2010 02:44:20 AM
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To all the people voting Artsapat
- 06/05/2010 03:56:15 AM
1246 Views
^^^i.e., Amys, ranagrande, Talic, Kronin al'Sulc (I think that means L-2 with a VNTL of 6) *NM*
- 06/05/2010 04:02:23 AM
1127 Views
L-1, Ranagrande is Chair.
- 06/05/2010 04:35:44 AM
1236 Views
So he's a Watcher/Tracker that doesn't actually get any results? How is that better?
*NM*
- 06/05/2010 04:17:47 AM
648 Views
*NM*
- 06/05/2010 04:17:47 AM
648 Views
Eh. Sorry Arty, but the evidence has stacked up. Yuna, remember to kill DK
- 06/05/2010 04:13:38 AM
1125 Views
Twilight - Artsapat has been Lynched
- 06/05/2010 04:50:35 AM
1160 Views
Nicely played by the way, well done Artsapat
- 06/05/2010 05:51:21 AM
1180 Views
Whoa you guys are still playing? Sweet. I totally forgot about this. *NM*
- 07/05/2010 09:40:26 PM
802 Views

*NM*
. *NM*