Some quick notes from the 'discussion of themes' bit I've been working on.
The doc – BlackAdder's character actually had a small hoard of events that could allow him to be recruited by Talic or DK as day masons (a warder) or by Yunalesca, as both were barking mad, in this last one they would have actually formed a new faction, the Madmen, with Yuna as a full-blown vig/SK and BlackAddder as a doc who was virtually immune to NK. We'll get into that in a bit. We also had Bergioyn able to join the White Tower group by faking to be AS, this event never came up, and the Runaway Novice role, which was rolled into Bergioyn's character during draft, one of the other game options, the RN became a Saldaean Noble and I scrapped the RN aspect in favor of the 'Masquerade' Event.
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The Cairhienen Doctor and The Senior Noble
As I mentioned, these two were sort of twinned, both nuts. Yunalesca was the senior Noble. AS you've seen from the role summaries, Yunalesca was the tie-breaker for SNG NK votes, fox was junior so that he couldn't assassinate his way to full control of a NK. Now, for the SN group, they only had their SNG NK as long as they all lived, at two the had a one-shot NK... so what happened there? Yunalesca, as hinted in her PM, didn't think she killed people, not exactly. The Senior Noble didn't view himself as first among equals, but rather viewed the other two nobles as advisors, and anyone he killed as advisors. For flavor purposes, though not specific mechanics, Yuna sent others to kill those she valued little but invited others of value to her room for tea, so she could convert them with the elixir of true seeing. As long as she had two advisors, one alive, she had the NK, but the other Saldeans would proceed as normal. The need for the split-flavor text – though it was also fun to write, was that once she had a single living and single undead advisor, that other SN could carry out the one-shot NK or Yuna could, but they'd be told it was expended, whereas Yuna herself would keep having NK, she lost it when Bergioyn died, having only 1 NK remaining, which was expended when Gher super-docced her, or rather when DK RB'd her – funny there, DK sent in a RB on Gher a few minutes after I'd sent out the first night action – after the deadline – had that happened Gher would have been RB's from RBing Yuna and Yuna would have killed DK, and with a second kill have remained capable of Nking.
Now, if BlackAdder had docced Yuna or Yuna NK's him, they'd have ended up chatting over tea, and crazy as they were BA would have decided Yuna was the Creator's chosen ruler and Yuna would have decided that BA was the Light's appointed Champion to help him purify the world and they'd have become mason buddies and a whole new faction, potentially able to bring Fistofpainx and Bergioyn in on their side, I hinted at this a bit in one Update while discussing crazy cultists converting people. BA also could have been converted by Talic or DK but those options never arose and aren't as interesting, I may discuss them at some later point.
The doc – BlackAdder's character actually had a small hoard of events that could allow him to be recruited by Talic or DK as day masons (a warder) or by Yunalesca, as both were barking mad, in this last one they would have actually formed a new faction, the Madmen, with Yuna as a full-blown vig/SK and BlackAddder as a doc who was virtually immune to NK. We'll get into that in a bit. We also had Bergioyn able to join the White Tower group by faking to be AS, this event never came up, and the Runaway Novice role, which was rolled into Bergioyn's character during draft, one of the other game options, the RN became a Saldaean Noble and I scrapped the RN aspect in favor of the 'Masquerade' Event.
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The Cairhienen Doctor and The Senior Noble
As I mentioned, these two were sort of twinned, both nuts. Yunalesca was the senior Noble. AS you've seen from the role summaries, Yunalesca was the tie-breaker for SNG NK votes, fox was junior so that he couldn't assassinate his way to full control of a NK. Now, for the SN group, they only had their SNG NK as long as they all lived, at two the had a one-shot NK... so what happened there? Yunalesca, as hinted in her PM, didn't think she killed people, not exactly. The Senior Noble didn't view himself as first among equals, but rather viewed the other two nobles as advisors, and anyone he killed as advisors. For flavor purposes, though not specific mechanics, Yuna sent others to kill those she valued little but invited others of value to her room for tea, so she could convert them with the elixir of true seeing. As long as she had two advisors, one alive, she had the NK, but the other Saldeans would proceed as normal. The need for the split-flavor text – though it was also fun to write, was that once she had a single living and single undead advisor, that other SN could carry out the one-shot NK or Yuna could, but they'd be told it was expended, whereas Yuna herself would keep having NK, she lost it when Bergioyn died, having only 1 NK remaining, which was expended when Gher super-docced her, or rather when DK RB'd her – funny there, DK sent in a RB on Gher a few minutes after I'd sent out the first night action – after the deadline – had that happened Gher would have been RB's from RBing Yuna and Yuna would have killed DK, and with a second kill have remained capable of Nking.
Now, if BlackAdder had docced Yuna or Yuna NK's him, they'd have ended up chatting over tea, and crazy as they were BA would have decided Yuna was the Creator's chosen ruler and Yuna would have decided that BA was the Light's appointed Champion to help him purify the world and they'd have become mason buddies and a whole new faction, potentially able to bring Fistofpainx and Bergioyn in on their side, I hinted at this a bit in one Update while discussing crazy cultists converting people. BA also could have been converted by Talic or DK but those options never arose and aren't as interesting, I may discuss them at some later point.
The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift.
- Albert Einstein
King of Cairhien 20-7-2
Chancellor of the Landsraad, Archduke of Is'Mod
- Albert Einstein
King of Cairhien 20-7-2
Chancellor of the Landsraad, Archduke of Is'Mod
RAFO Mafia 16: In the Manor of Mad Muad - Post Game Discussion
23/05/2010 01:25:25 AM
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PGM: Role Assignments (up)
23/05/2010 01:29:00 AM
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PGM: Game Themes, Clues, Summary
23/05/2010 01:38:29 AM
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Re: PGM: Game Themes, Clues, Summary
23/05/2010 09:33:37 PM
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Just use a VotF Doctrine
24/05/2010 05:46:05 AM
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Thanks.
24/05/2010 06:32:07 AM
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Re: Thanks.
24/05/2010 07:05:06 AM
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It's useful too.
24/05/2010 07:11:00 AM
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Re: It's useful too.
24/05/2010 07:28:11 AM
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It's also why I jumped at the opportunity of things like the Sheriff or Chair bonus roles.
24/05/2010 07:42:34 AM
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Damn. We were doing pretty nice there.
23/05/2010 01:36:58 AM
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You certainly blindsided me!
23/05/2010 01:50:25 AM
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I knew I should have listened to my instincts!
23/05/2010 01:53:50 AM
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What was amusing is that you almost NK'd white flame that one night
23/05/2010 02:29:45 AM
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Sheesh. Awesome game, guys. And well done, Isaac
23/05/2010 01:57:04 AM
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For the explanation, read the Dawn 5 message that I received
23/05/2010 08:46:05 AM
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Oh yeah. Fox and Ravens, care to take a guess at who I suspected from Night 1?
23/05/2010 03:04:53 AM
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I'd been wondering...
23/05/2010 04:31:02 AM
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Yeppers
23/05/2010 04:49:33 AM
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I also imagine there was a potential for friction between BlackAdder and Ranagrande.
23/05/2010 05:20:17 AM
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Gotta say I was really pissed at myself
23/05/2010 04:58:12 AM
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Even with your immense failure....
23/05/2010 05:47:22 AM
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So who's running the next one?
23/05/2010 06:49:08 AM
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kylia skydancer is *NM*
23/05/2010 10:13:49 AM
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I thought her game was going to be in-character?
23/05/2010 12:10:26 PM
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and?
23/05/2010 12:38:52 PM
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Nah, there aren't a whole lot of people for Divya's
23/05/2010 02:02:01 PM
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Also Agreed *NM*
23/05/2010 04:35:18 PM
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Alright, so whoever was next in line, open up a Sign-up.
23/05/2010 05:16:52 PM
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Fox or ranagrande
23/05/2010 06:00:00 PM
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Yeah, it will be ranagrande to mod
23/05/2010 06:07:47 PM
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So, we're going to have two at the same time?
23/05/2010 07:23:25 PM
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Also, what would have happened if I outright claimed to be a male channeler?
23/05/2010 09:09:28 AM
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So Yuna, can you NOW explaine what went wrong with your flavor claim?
23/05/2010 01:53:24 PM
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The number of Lightsiders who lied or allowed others to lie this game is staggering. *NM*
23/05/2010 06:44:45 PM
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I lied by omission, but I couldn't see any additional benefit to claiming doc *NM*
23/05/2010 10:58:05 PM
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You claimed that Ranagrande had to be bulletproof because nobody protected him. *NM*
24/05/2010 04:44:48 AM
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Well yes, but it was because I knew my protection wasn't the reason he survived.
24/05/2010 05:30:03 AM
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In fact, you could make a case that I am obligated to share that info with the rest of the town.
24/05/2010 05:37:30 AM
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Your message indicates it wasn't the sole reason he survived...
24/05/2010 06:40:29 AM
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I think that's a good question for Isaac
24/05/2010 07:18:31 AM
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Even I didn't lie. It's weird. *NM*
24/05/2010 07:05:55 AM
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We really need to lynch all liars.
24/05/2010 01:20:56 PM
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Re: We really need to lynch all liars.
25/05/2010 04:19:51 AM
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Then they shouldn't roleclaim at all.
25/05/2010 04:27:39 AM
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Sadly, silence can then be assumed as an assention to guilt (i.e., "I'm a doc/cop" ).
25/05/2010 05:21:04 AM
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Well, I pretty much never roleclaim, and I get around fine . *NM*
25/05/2010 05:24:19 AM
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Re: Then they shouldn't roleclaim at all.
25/05/2010 05:24:54 AM
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By the way DF's, what made me so good looking target that I got killed on night 2? *NM*
23/05/2010 04:25:38 PM
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The DFs didn't kill you as a group
23/05/2010 04:41:09 PM
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That was it.
23/05/2010 05:15:51 PM
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I thought you were going to add 'decapitator' to your signature after the game *NM*
23/05/2010 07:28:02 PM
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I think he should. It would be great way to indicate notable succes in such a risky business! *NM*
23/05/2010 07:38:26 PM
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Q for Gher
23/05/2010 06:57:33 PM
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Well...
23/05/2010 09:56:23 PM
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The Unofficial Mod Criteria and Waiting List (Table)
23/05/2010 07:01:30 PM
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I've got an idea for a game when my time comes, and I'll be ripping off your style from this game
23/05/2010 09:42:13 PM
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Rip away
24/05/2010 06:10:42 AM
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Well, given the position you were all in when I left...
24/05/2010 06:35:18 AM
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Re: Well, given the position you were all in when I left...
24/05/2010 07:10:46 AM
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Great game.
23/05/2010 09:58:18 PM
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Chair was great- and it's good to know that Lunch happens when Chair is elected
24/05/2010 07:07:21 AM
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Great game. Even though I was only alive for one day and one night.
24/05/2010 07:30:05 AM
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What? You had wonderful position as Lord Yunalescas most trusted advisor! *NM*
24/05/2010 07:24:38 PM
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