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Congrats to you, and I shall also Vote Chair: Darth_Katie BlackAdder Send a noteboard - 28/06/2010 10:15:32 PM
The question is then of course why nobody targeted two of the most obvious targets. As Kronin mentioned, I would be one of them. Following my own line of reasoning from the last game when I was scum, I would leave myself alive, too. I remember discussions (with Kronin amongst others) why certain people should or should not be killed. One of the reasons for leaving an obvious target alive is "I think we can get a Lynch out of him, yet." Seeing how my reputation was at the end of Day 1, I can clearly see the Nipz thinking they can get me Lynched, soon.

As I mentioned in one of my posts above, I think you are alive for one of two reasons:

1. You're scum
2. You were left alive by the scum since you were the most suspicious player after Kronin

Hence, no surprise you're still alive. I don't really understand the line of reasoning presented by Isaac and Kronin (and others?) that the scum should have killed you BECAUSE you were suspicious to the town. How does that work in their favor?

The other obvious candidate is Isaac. He's been suggesting a lot of things and questions. All of these things can be considered anti-Town (as I stated on Day one, and as Napoleon reiterated in his post above - 122822). If, on the other hand, they're in fact pro-Town, the NIPZ should have to kill him ASAP, before he makes the vital link between the NIPZ and their claims. Added to this, Kronin has his own feelings of misdirections by Isaac, as per his post 122955.

Therefore:
Vote: Isaac

I'm watching him closely as I don't particularly like the werewolf argument. I agree with Kronin that it seems to be taken too literally by Isaac, and if he were scum, it would be a great way to throw the town off his tracks and on a wild goose chase for a non-existant cult.
And yes, the questions may yet be double-edged, although the fact that they dragged down a townie yesterday can't squarely be attributed to Isaac, even if that was his goal as scum.
So, right now, I would vote Isaac. Heck, why not - Vote: Isaac

Oh and about your dawn/dusk messages... I also won't answer that since it could give away role info (about myself or others, by elimination). However, I don't think it's a scum slip-up since your only other game (and mine too) was Isaac's game where everyone got lots of messages. And IIRC, someone asked the same question you're asking now, and they were never called out as scum for doing so.
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RAFO Mafia 17, Day 2: Stayin' Alive - 26/06/2010 07:39:13 AM 1927 Views
Vote Table - 26/06/2010 07:40:39 AM 927 Views
Ah ah ah ah stayin' aliiiiiiiiiiiiive - 26/06/2010 03:48:30 PM 917 Views
Re: Ah ah ah ah stayin' aliiiiiiiiiiiiive - 26/06/2010 04:20:48 PM 891 Views
I was poisoned. - 26/06/2010 04:33:50 PM 948 Views
Yeah, that's interesting. - 26/06/2010 06:04:45 PM 883 Views
I as well was attacked - 26/06/2010 09:00:28 PM 991 Views
A beast? That's interesting - 26/06/2010 10:08:33 PM 907 Views
If we can identify it from a particular series, we might be able to nab the attacker. *NM* - 26/06/2010 10:14:45 PM 493 Views
Alright here is a repost of yesterday's info - 26/06/2010 10:22:58 PM 943 Views
Alright, Here comes some analysis out the wazoo. - 27/06/2010 06:35:59 PM 951 Views
I'll just say one thing - 28/06/2010 12:01:32 AM 841 Views
Well, I should pay attention. - 28/06/2010 04:48:18 AM 857 Views
Yes, it was a beast - 26/06/2010 11:19:13 PM 890 Views
Was it a werewolf? - 26/06/2010 11:30:27 PM 941 Views
No evidence to suggest it was... - 26/06/2010 11:44:35 PM 946 Views
Re: No evidence to suggest it was... - 26/06/2010 11:49:00 PM 933 Views
I know how I was saved - 27/06/2010 12:02:39 AM 978 Views
Re: I know how I was saved - 27/06/2010 12:21:59 AM 855 Views
A few ideas - 27/06/2010 12:36:45 AM 908 Views
Re: A few ideas - 27/06/2010 01:06:11 AM 848 Views
Hmm, why is that? - 27/06/2010 02:23:31 AM 908 Views
That BP is usually town? - 27/06/2010 03:13:11 AM 843 Views
Re: I know how I was saved - 27/06/2010 05:12:32 AM 906 Views
Re: I know how I was saved - 27/06/2010 05:30:29 AM 785 Views
So, I guess Kronin/Blaine should provide their info now to the questions from yesterday - 26/06/2010 05:05:17 PM 847 Views
Alright, questions. - 26/06/2010 06:04:13 PM 924 Views
You forgot HDG *NM* - 26/06/2010 11:43:40 PM 489 Views
Which is.... *NM* - 27/06/2010 12:53:22 AM 528 Views
Heroic Do Gooder *NM* - 27/06/2010 12:56:21 AM 525 Views
Yes *NM* - 27/06/2010 03:01:59 PM 489 Views
Sorry guys, but life is suddenly way busy. - 26/06/2010 09:08:19 PM 836 Views
We'll miss you - 27/06/2010 03:06:27 PM 797 Views
Going back to yesterday - 26/06/2010 10:16:23 PM 868 Views
I am still in fact suspicious of Isaac - 26/06/2010 11:21:58 PM 892 Views
damn - 26/06/2010 11:33:59 PM 945 Views
Yeah, I think he should divulge. *NM* - 27/06/2010 04:11:13 AM 447 Views
EBWOP - Elaboration. - 27/06/2010 04:12:44 AM 940 Views
FINE. FINE. FINE - 27/06/2010 12:27:33 PM 892 Views
Whyyyyyyyyyy - 27/06/2010 05:34:05 PM 845 Views
This is pretty much what I expected... - 27/06/2010 08:29:43 PM 843 Views
I'm inclined to believe his claim - 27/06/2010 11:47:29 PM 938 Views
Since no one seems to have listened to my dying shouts. - 27/06/2010 01:03:10 AM 873 Views
I hadn't really thought of that - 27/06/2010 01:31:01 AM 912 Views
Re: I hadn't really thought of that - 27/06/2010 02:08:58 AM 929 Views
Re: I hadn't really thought of that - 27/06/2010 02:45:35 AM 847 Views
That's right! You're alive again! DUDE, I am so annoyed at you! - 27/06/2010 07:22:20 AM 832 Views
Short post, with elaboration to come later. - 27/06/2010 03:00:43 PM 883 Views
Okay, elaboration time. - 27/06/2010 06:19:49 PM 876 Views
Hmm, that is a pretty bold accusation - 27/06/2010 11:55:23 PM 821 Views
Re: Okay, elaboration time. - 28/06/2010 02:39:54 AM 806 Views
Now, what I want to know. - 28/06/2010 04:47:17 AM 820 Views
Your basically wildly speculating with an assumption of guilt - 28/06/2010 06:00:53 AM 810 Views
You're not seeing my point. - 28/06/2010 05:46:59 PM 714 Views
Re: You're not seeing my point. - 28/06/2010 06:39:05 PM 861 Views
Okay, fair enough. I guess onto other points for now. - 28/06/2010 07:28:02 PM 824 Views
Then let's return to Artsapat for now - 28/06/2010 08:19:21 PM 818 Views
So, where'd the night kill go? - 28/06/2010 10:01:00 PM 768 Views
That's the question, a cult is one possibility for one of them - 29/06/2010 05:46:12 AM 851 Views
Re: That's the question, a cult is one possibility for one of them - 29/06/2010 06:16:58 AM 817 Views
Re: That's the question, a cult is one possibility for one of them - 29/06/2010 06:33:22 AM 868 Views
Re: That's the question, a cult is one possibility for one of them - 29/06/2010 06:57:08 AM 822 Views
Hypocop Table! - 27/06/2010 05:37:07 PM 860 Views
I found F-T to be Innocent *NM* - 27/06/2010 05:37:19 PM 491 Views
i found Amys to be Guilty *NM* - 27/06/2010 06:20:15 PM 528 Views
I found myself to be roleblocked, so... yeah. *NM* - 27/06/2010 08:31:37 PM 527 Views
F-T; Innocent *NM* - 27/06/2010 11:57:15 PM 456 Views
Beetnemesis innocent *NM* - 28/06/2010 03:29:18 AM 404 Views
Isaac- innocent *NM* - 28/06/2010 04:19:00 AM 479 Views
Napoleon - Innocent *NM* - 28/06/2010 04:47:01 AM 441 Views
I found I was dead. *NM* - 28/06/2010 04:47:39 AM 450 Views
Are you saying you didn't get Blaine's role until dawn? *NM* - 28/06/2010 11:59:31 AM 483 Views
Yunalesca - innocent *NM* - 28/06/2010 01:28:38 PM 469 Views
Fox - Innocent *NM* - 28/06/2010 07:44:54 PM 374 Views
Isaac is guilty... GUILTY I SAY!! Also; - 01/07/2010 05:53:17 PM 798 Views
Staying Alive indeed - 28/06/2010 12:31:47 PM 894 Views
dawn/dusk - no *NM* - 28/06/2010 03:35:59 PM 455 Views
Re: Staying Alive indeed - 28/06/2010 04:33:30 PM 824 Views
Regarding the dawn/dusk message, I must object very strongly - 28/06/2010 04:41:26 PM 812 Views
Re: Regarding the dawn/dusk message, I must object very strongly - 28/06/2010 05:26:45 PM 833 Views
I thought so, it's why I wanted to check with others *NM* - 28/06/2010 06:25:16 PM 524 Views
Well, first off, congratulations. - 28/06/2010 05:43:47 PM 812 Views
Congratulations! How wonderful - 28/06/2010 08:42:51 PM 816 Views
Congrats to you, and I shall also Vote Chair: Darth_Katie - 28/06/2010 10:15:32 PM 796 Views
Two things: - 28/06/2010 10:34:31 PM 866 Views
For what it's worth, there was a third fraction in that game though. - 28/06/2010 10:45:08 PM 860 Views
Oh, well according to him - 28/06/2010 10:55:05 PM 820 Views
Also - 28/06/2010 11:07:34 PM 744 Views
We could be dealing with just a Cult. - 28/06/2010 11:42:19 PM 832 Views
Yeah, but if we got lucky... game over on Day 1 *NM* - 29/06/2010 12:25:54 AM 472 Views
Yunalesca - innocent *NM* - 28/06/2010 12:33:03 PM 392 Views
Voting record. - 28/06/2010 10:03:33 PM 876 Views
Hey, isn't this Katie's job? *NM* - 28/06/2010 10:18:10 PM 480 Views
Hey, volunteer yourself. - 28/06/2010 10:47:22 PM 772 Views
I'll probably spew one out again - 29/06/2010 05:49:54 AM 765 Views
you guys are so slow on the uptake you know *NM* - 28/06/2010 10:43:58 PM 513 Views
What? *NM* - 28/06/2010 10:49:47 PM 453 Views
And you've only realized that now? - 28/06/2010 10:56:57 PM 790 Views
read my posts carefully - 28/06/2010 11:01:45 PM 779 Views
... - 28/06/2010 11:49:07 PM 855 Views
Okay, let's do that - 29/06/2010 06:10:28 AM 850 Views
Don't suppose you checked her posts for spoilers, did you? - 29/06/2010 07:22:13 AM 829 Views
Yes, nothing - 29/06/2010 08:20:33 AM 887 Views
*laughs helplessly* - 01/07/2010 09:21:48 AM 900 Views
I'm a bit interested in hearing from the quiet ones - 29/06/2010 07:31:32 AM 870 Views
Re: I'm a bit interested in hearing from the quiet ones - 29/06/2010 04:27:18 PM 795 Views
i confessed to being the beast *NM* - 29/06/2010 04:36:40 PM 495 Views
Well, that... doesn't sound smart. - 29/06/2010 04:48:22 PM 886 Views
I mean, this is just an obvious way to get yourself lynched. - 29/06/2010 04:48:49 PM 879 Views
I'm guessing she got bored with the game and wants us to lynch her *NM* - 29/06/2010 06:26:22 PM 517 Views
Actually I'm betting on a Buffy claim right now *NM* - 29/06/2010 06:44:54 PM 493 Views
I say we don't lynch - 29/06/2010 07:11:50 PM 858 Views
We should probably just wait for her claim *NM* - 29/06/2010 07:18:13 PM 486 Views
Oh, come on - 29/06/2010 04:50:09 PM 794 Views
Yep, now is probably a good time to Role Claim. *NM* - 29/06/2010 09:01:01 PM 515 Views
I think a few people might have intially thought that - 29/06/2010 10:25:06 PM 858 Views
Sorry. I've been so busy. - 30/06/2010 12:54:17 AM 799 Views
Re: Sorry. I've been so busy. - 30/06/2010 12:57:48 AM 902 Views
Re: Sorry. I've been so busy. - 30/06/2010 01:23:06 AM 826 Views
Then please repeat it for me. - 30/06/2010 02:08:28 AM 771 Views
I always thought it was - 30/06/2010 02:49:57 AM 822 Views
Re: I always thought it was - 30/06/2010 03:46:22 AM 809 Views
Yes, that makes more sense. - 30/06/2010 04:14:50 AM 827 Views
That whole thing would have worked if Yuna didn't have psychopathic flavortext... - 30/06/2010 04:15:01 AM 768 Views
It still worked out pretty well, as I recall. - 30/06/2010 04:30:18 AM 763 Views
I've never heard of the rule and would actually think it anti-town for the vig not to kill - 30/06/2010 04:34:10 AM 786 Views
Because it isn't like a lynch at all. - 30/06/2010 06:30:04 AM 802 Views
There's a second half to that too - 30/06/2010 07:12:37 AM 812 Views
Re: There's a second half to that too - 30/06/2010 07:21:09 PM 837 Views
the quiet ones... - 01/07/2010 09:58:52 AM 845 Views
Some advice - 01/07/2010 12:40:13 PM 755 Views
You're probably right... - 01/07/2010 01:41:13 PM 805 Views
This has definitely been going slower than normal. Hopefully it will pick up soon. - 02/07/2010 08:57:26 PM 849 Views
Always a good thing. *NM* - 03/07/2010 04:38:34 AM 396 Views
Re: the quiet ones... - 02/07/2010 08:21:48 AM 792 Views
Re: the quiet ones... - 03/07/2010 04:39:26 AM 775 Views
Does this damn thing work yet? >.< *NM* - 29/06/2010 07:36:31 PM 493 Views
Yes? *NM* - 29/06/2010 07:40:11 PM 351 Views
So, Yuna. What's your game? - 30/06/2010 04:16:28 AM 829 Views
If she's a vig, I'll be slightly disappointed - 30/06/2010 04:37:10 AM 816 Views
*laughs* - 30/06/2010 10:30:38 AM 821 Views
I don't know what kind of game you're playing. - 30/06/2010 01:11:02 PM 825 Views
Darn, I had my finger crossed for Oz, Seth Green's werewolf character in Buffy - 30/06/2010 01:46:01 PM 841 Views
Let me just say this: If she is a Jester... - 30/06/2010 04:10:23 PM 790 Views
I agree - 30/06/2010 05:20:18 PM 776 Views
It seems win-win either way - 30/06/2010 06:29:41 PM 819 Views
Screw the Jesters. - 30/06/2010 07:22:59 PM 882 Views
It's a defense against getting lynched only if we don't have any other ways of getting rid of them - 30/06/2010 09:12:09 PM 851 Views
Too much room for error, plus it leaves it open for future claims - 30/06/2010 10:04:56 PM 861 Views
I almost want to say let's just ignore her... except she apparently has a NK. Lynch her, I guess - 01/07/2010 04:10:05 AM 811 Views
Re: I almost want to say let's just ignore her... except she apparently has a NK. Lynch her, I guess - 01/07/2010 05:43:01 AM 862 Views
Jester's are awful. They ruin the game. - 01/07/2010 06:26:39 AM 869 Views
That apostrophe is driving me insane *NM* - 02/07/2010 01:51:23 AM 464 Views
I didn't want to say anything. Too bad you can't edit posts . *NM* - 02/07/2010 01:56:57 AM 339 Views
I'll allow you to edit that one if you wish to. - 02/07/2010 04:00:05 AM 817 Views
Sigh... check the history of that post for part 2 of the comedy of errors *NM* - 02/07/2010 04:12:33 AM 433 Views
Hah! Awesome *NM* - 02/07/2010 04:14:33 AM 453 Views
*giggle* *NM* - 01/07/2010 09:43:25 AM 452 Views
unfortunatly im RBIRL - 01/07/2010 10:11:22 AM 765 Views
See? It's stuff like this - 01/07/2010 04:10:41 PM 756 Views
It's the Independence Day weekend in the US, too, so - 01/07/2010 04:55:44 PM 818 Views
EBWOP: and also Artsapat! - 01/07/2010 04:57:39 PM 803 Views
I'm still here. Unfortunately... - 02/07/2010 08:30:01 AM 719 Views
It's Canada Day today! - 01/07/2010 05:44:52 PM 797 Views
any excuse for a party! *NM* - 01/07/2010 09:12:30 PM 480 Views
Testing... (Table) - 01/07/2010 05:18:38 PM 966 Views
Huzzah! - 01/07/2010 05:20:04 PM 775 Views
Anyone can do that? - 01/07/2010 05:26:48 PM 806 Views
No, guess not. - 01/07/2010 05:27:58 PM 829 Views
Re: Anyone can do that? - 01/07/2010 05:34:20 PM 838 Views
Why can you do that? - 01/07/2010 05:36:28 PM 887 Views
Re: Why can you do that? - 01/07/2010 05:42:37 PM 811 Views
hmm - 01/07/2010 05:28:35 PM 827 Views
Oh, you have to get a membership - 01/07/2010 05:36:46 PM 824 Views
Re: Oh, you have to get a membership - 01/07/2010 06:03:21 PM 956 Views
I am SO cheap. - 01/07/2010 06:42:15 PM 738 Views
I donated to the site - 02/07/2010 08:32:55 AM 789 Views
There, there. - 02/07/2010 08:39:06 PM 801 Views
This allows you to instantly defeat any moral Anakin. - 02/07/2010 09:16:13 PM 702 Views
Ah, OK - 01/07/2010 06:04:11 PM 815 Views
No luck with page anchors - 01/07/2010 06:23:44 PM 821 Views
And yeah, I will quit screwing around with it in the game - 01/07/2010 06:25:38 PM 847 Views
Darth_Katie has been elected Chair - 01/07/2010 06:07:37 PM 825 Views
Can I unvote if I want? - 01/07/2010 06:41:02 PM 739 Views
Yeah, it was advocate that couldn't undo and redo - 01/07/2010 06:44:43 PM 893 Views
So... why not just vote for Yuna and end the day? - 03/07/2010 05:56:18 AM 844 Views
I think we might've already? - 03/07/2010 06:38:55 AM 837 Views
I didn't miss them - 03/07/2010 08:14:15 AM 660 Views
You spelled her name wrong DK *NM* - 03/07/2010 11:53:02 AM 569 Views
I think you misspelled Yunalesca as Yunalesa - 03/07/2010 12:01:26 PM 890 Views
- 03/07/2010 04:21:54 PM 815 Views
Nah, I'm not that much of a stickler for spelling - 03/07/2010 05:35:16 PM 850 Views
.....? *NM* - 03/07/2010 05:50:14 PM 472 Views
Someone must have blocked her vote - 03/07/2010 07:19:50 PM 800 Views
Could be the other way 'round... - 03/07/2010 09:20:15 PM 787 Views
Re: Could be the other way 'round... - 03/07/2010 10:37:10 PM 865 Views
Just thinking aloud. - 03/07/2010 11:11:27 PM 795 Views
Understandable, I don't think this was a day action though - 03/07/2010 11:40:00 PM 760 Views
Re: Someone must have blocked her vote - 03/07/2010 10:27:52 PM 785 Views
Re: Someone must have blocked her vote - 03/07/2010 10:37:08 PM 1041 Views
Re: - 03/07/2010 07:07:20 PM 788 Views
Maybe - 03/07/2010 07:19:55 PM 828 Views
Whatever happened happened between edits 5 and 6 on the vote table - 03/07/2010 07:28:33 PM 813 Views
That was actually a mistake my me - 03/07/2010 08:28:43 PM 831 Views
Let's try focusing on Yuna again, see if we can make this make sense - 04/07/2010 12:08:48 AM 820 Views
She's not answering cause she's an unstated RBIRL. - 04/07/2010 12:27:34 AM 881 Views
Re: She's not answering cause she's an unstated RBIRL. - 04/07/2010 12:58:52 AM 729 Views
Well, actually kill her. - 04/07/2010 01:04:41 AM 882 Views
Re: Well, actually kill her. - 04/07/2010 01:09:16 AM 763 Views
Yea! *NM* - 04/07/2010 01:12:06 AM 337 Views
Wait, we're still L-1 - 04/07/2010 01:12:55 AM 781 Views
That might do it - 04/07/2010 01:12:45 AM 822 Views
Anybody else maybe just want to vote to get this definitely over with? *NM* - 04/07/2010 01:33:44 AM 487 Views
I definitely don't want to vote her - 04/07/2010 04:10:07 AM 779 Views
Agreed... - 04/07/2010 05:30:31 AM 782 Views
Explain that - 04/07/2010 02:38:01 PM 858 Views
*cackles wickedly* - 06/07/2010 04:24:01 AM 796 Views
Napoleon's MIA, as far as I can tell. - 04/07/2010 02:31:38 AM 775 Views
Re: Napoleon's MIA, as far as I can tell. - 04/07/2010 03:34:55 AM 800 Views
Does it really matter if she wins? - 04/07/2010 03:39:43 AM 855 Views
Exactly *NM* - 04/07/2010 03:46:00 AM 575 Views
Re: Does it really matter if she wins? - 04/07/2010 03:57:19 AM 807 Views
It means we waste a lynch though. - 04/07/2010 04:11:50 AM 831 Views
You seem to be assuming that if she's a jester the DFs will kill her - 04/07/2010 04:20:13 AM 769 Views
I'm not assuming that - 04/07/2010 04:40:06 PM 851 Views
Ohhhhh I think I figured out what happened to me. - 04/07/2010 05:28:32 AM 866 Views
If it's a vote steal, rather than a block... - 04/07/2010 05:55:49 AM 754 Views
I think a steal makes more sense with the money transaction. - 04/07/2010 06:09:50 AM 763 Views
Don't know if that would work... - 04/07/2010 06:24:17 AM 817 Views
We could try, at least. - 04/07/2010 03:22:17 PM 803 Views
Oh sure, I agree. - 04/07/2010 06:04:20 PM 753 Views
It's Artsapat, has to be - 04/07/2010 02:32:16 PM 819 Views
I don't know anything about the Million Dollar Man - 04/07/2010 03:28:19 PM 790 Views
In one of my previous mafia games, I was a vote thief - 04/07/2010 04:50:18 PM 816 Views
That was my thought also, - 04/07/2010 06:07:49 PM 807 Views
Re: That was my thought also, - 04/07/2010 06:16:34 PM 811 Views
- 04/07/2010 06:41:56 PM 817 Views
Actually - 05/07/2010 03:46:42 PM 818 Views
I'm fairly content with that logic - 05/07/2010 04:37:41 PM 827 Views
So, once again Artsapat hammers someone who is probably town - 05/07/2010 04:40:40 PM 648 Views
So, once again Artsapat hammers someone who is probably town - 05/07/2010 04:40:40 PM 757 Views
EBWOP: Something is wrong with my mouse *NM* - 05/07/2010 04:43:03 PM 471 Views
Yeah, that sounds pretty legit. - 05/07/2010 04:54:34 PM 843 Views
Kinda overlooked the RB comment, also, you need to unvote - 05/07/2010 05:06:59 PM 872 Views
My thoughts re: Yunalesca - 04/07/2010 06:30:41 PM 824 Views
And since people love answering questions - 05/07/2010 12:33:42 AM 820 Views
Yunalesca has (almost) been lynched - 05/07/2010 06:39:39 PM 873 Views
Re: Yunalesca has (almost) been lynched - 05/07/2010 07:49:10 PM 848 Views

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