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A simple torch can't fry a person completely to ashes *NM* BlackAdder Send a noteboard - 02/08/2010 10:31:05 PM
a) A fire-wielder could be pretty much anyone from anywhere with a torch.

b) Just a couple of additions I need to make.

First, I'll try to piece together what's known about actions Night 3:

BlackAdder killed Talic (killed in the same manner as Isaac - bite marks; BlackAdder was a vig)

Talic roleblocked Kylia Skydancer (party invite sounds like a Captain Morgan sort of thing - plus Kylia said she was roleblocked and Talic was a roleblocker)

Beetnemesis was killed by ??? (burned to ashes, so look for a fire-wielder)

BlackAdder was killed by ??? (headshot, cleanly cauterized, suggests a laser of some sort)

So with that in mind... I think the NIPZ either killed both beet and BlackAdder (due to some sort of event that gave them a revenge kill for losing their Godfather Isaac the previous night), or we have a limited shot vig who killed someone, or... something else. In any case, it does seem that the two kills were done separately (i.e., not by the same person).

Also, going back to the flavor, the mafia group is called Ninja Pirate Zombie Robot Monkey. Is is a coincidence that Isaac was from Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and Talic was essentially a glorified pirate? Perhaps it's a stretch, but it could pay off to keep our eyes peeled for any further clues.

So, let's try to look for the killers

The Living

Amys/Fanatic-Templar 2.0

MODERN REAL EARTH: No

MAJOR CHARACTER OR SETTING: No

GENDER: Male

CONSISTENT: Yes

HEROIC DO-GOODER: Yes

Won't give settings

OK, so not much is known about this guy. He won't give us settings so he'll always be a possible culprit in pretty much any scenario.

Blaine/Kronin 2.0

MODERN REAL EARTH: No

MAJOR CHARACTER OR SETTING: Yes

GENDER: Female

CONSISTENT: Yes

HEROIC DO-GOODER: Yes

Enderverse

Legend of Zelda

Star Trek

Discworld

Haloverse


Yea, so Star Trek and Halo both use laser guns. Definitely could have killed BlackAdder

Darth_Katie

MODERN REAL EARTH: UNC

MAJOR CHARACTER OR SETTING: No

GENDER: Male

CONSISTENT: Yes

HEROIC DO-GOODER: Debatable

Looney Toons

Dexter's Lab

Barbie

The Simpsons

South Park

Not really any lasers here unless she is Mecha Streisand from South Park (a Robot). Dexter's lab has robots, right? The others don't really have anything incriminating at this point.

I'm sure someone in the Simpsons knows has to burn people. Same for South Park.

Fox and Ravens

MODERN REAL EARTH: No, changed from UNC

MAJOR CHARACTER OR SETTING: UNC

GENDER: Male

CONSISTENT:

HEROIC DO-GOODER:

Star Trek

Sonic

A Song of Ice and Fire

Spaceballs

Willy Wonka-verse - Consistentfirmed he wans't from there


He also claimed Star Trek, so he's a possible killer of BlackAdder. Sonic has Scratch, Grounder and Robotnik (evil Robots). He's on my suspicion list anyway. Don't really see any fire wielders, although I don't know about aSoIaF

Also, Spaceballs has lasers. Very much has lasers.

Hobo/Yunalesca 2.0

MODERN REAL EARTH: Yes

MAJOR CHARACTER OR SETTING: Yes

GENDER: Male

CONSISTENT:

HEROIC DO-GOODER:

Shakespeare plays

Wheel of Time

Enders Series

Robin Hood

Greek Myths

WoT has people who channel fireballs and Greek Myths have all sorts of things, but it seems that Yuna gained control of Hobo's role at daybreak (so couldn't have killed anyone overnight)

Kylia Skydancer

MODERN REAL EARTH: Yes

MAJOR CHARACTER OR SETTING: UNC

GENDER: Male

CONSISTENT: YEs

HEROIC DO-GOODER:

Buffyverse

The Sixth Sense

Captain Planet

Sherlock Holmes

The DC Universe


Claimed to be roleblocked. I don't see any reason to doubt that at this point, I'm going to assume she wasn't the killer and that she is also not a NIPZ (no sense in roleblocking your teammate)

No sense in being too trusting. Don't actually know the DCverse, but pretty sure there are people there who could laser/fire (heat vision, for one). Also, Cpt. Planet - FIRE.

Napoleon62/BlackAdder 2.0

MODERN REAL EARTH: No

MAJOR CHARACTER OR SETTING: Yes

GENDER: Female

CONSISTENT: Yes

HEROIC DO-GOODER:

Mario-land

Narnia: Lucy Pevensie - Doctor

Wheel of Time

Portal-land

Winnie the Pooh-land

Yea, no comment from me

White Flame of Tar Valon

MODERN REAL EARTH: Yes

MAJOR CHARACTER OR SETTING: Yes

GENDER: Male

CONSISTENT: Yes

HEROIC DO-GOODER: Yes

American Idol

Les Miserables

Phantom of the Opera

Smallville

Chicago


None of these has flame wielders or laser guns.

None have flamewielders except for anyone with a torch. Smallville could have lil' Supes with laser vision, or basically teenage anyone from DCverse (I think).

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In the end, I have to say, Blaine/Kronin 2.0 looks pretty suspicious (Halo/Star Trek), as does Fox and Ravens (Star Trek, Sonic Robots), based just on this character info and the info rana gave us about methods of killing. Fanatic-Templar is also a possibility. He could be the fire-wielder who killed beet last night, by process of elimination. I suppose Darth_Katie could have done it as well (Mecha Streisand from South Park), but it seems less likely, and honestly, if she really is Babs, I think rana would have written something other than just "cauterized headshot" as the manner in which the victim died :D

Now, the final piece of the puzzle is looking at how these people interacted with Isaac and Talic on the previous days, how they voted, etc. That could take a while...
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RAFO Mafia 17, Day 4: Here We Go Again - 17/07/2010 09:39:09 PM 2454 Views
Vote Table - 17/07/2010 09:40:41 PM 1331 Views
Napoleon isn't inactive? - 18/07/2010 04:21:24 AM 1139 Views
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Hypocop Table - 17/07/2010 09:52:26 PM 1217 Views
I found DK to be guilty *NM* - 17/07/2010 09:52:45 PM 826 Views
I found Kronin al'Sulc to be innocent. *NM* - 18/07/2010 04:22:34 AM 690 Views
Kylia - Dirty *NM* - 18/07/2010 04:35:04 AM 790 Views
BlackAdder - innocent *NM* - 18/07/2010 04:45:20 AM 871 Views
I found White Flame to be innocent. *NM* - 18/07/2010 05:26:30 AM 673 Views
Don't care if I'm dead- I TOTALLY called Talic. - 18/07/2010 01:55:01 AM 1270 Views
Maybe you'll be able to replace... someone - 18/07/2010 02:45:53 AM 1222 Views
Nah, Watcher gives me extra info... - 18/07/2010 04:10:10 AM 1108 Views
That was the first thing I noticed, too . *NM* - 18/07/2010 04:23:30 AM 798 Views
Hahaha. yes. You did call that one very well. *NM* - 18/07/2010 04:34:22 AM 689 Views
Yeah, that's pretty ridiculous. Way to be! *NM* - 18/07/2010 04:43:41 AM 800 Views
Wow.... great call. *NM* - 18/07/2010 05:25:53 AM 670 Views
Yeah I call shenanigans; also the Langoliers need to stop eating all the scum >.< *NM* - 18/07/2010 12:37:25 PM 1106 Views
*resurrects* - 22/07/2010 01:03:01 AM 1191 Views
so what are we doing today? - 18/07/2010 09:21:49 PM 1116 Views
Alrighty, what are we going to do now? - 18/07/2010 09:31:44 PM 1356 Views
Faction, not fraction. - 18/07/2010 09:59:12 PM 1398 Views
Whoops ... I always almost do that and then fix it at the last minute. - 19/07/2010 09:38:55 PM 1189 Views
Re: Whoops ... I always almost do that and then fix it at the last minute. - 20/07/2010 05:11:24 AM 1309 Views
I meant that there's a possibility he was bluffing. - 20/07/2010 01:05:48 PM 1290 Views
Understandable now that you explained yourself...but it still irks me. *NM* - 21/07/2010 05:52:30 AM 607 Views
Beet's hypocops - 19/07/2010 05:05:53 AM 1185 Views
Re: Beet's hypocops - 19/07/2010 08:53:09 AM 1279 Views
As much as I love the word "moot" - 19/07/2010 09:35:00 PM 1267 Views
RBIRL - 21/07/2010 06:15:35 PM 1183 Views
what now? - 22/07/2010 02:25:48 AM 1204 Views
I agree - 22/07/2010 05:21:39 AM 1317 Views
Okay, first of all - 23/07/2010 07:50:23 AM 1203 Views
In theory it is necessary to actually post to properly play the game - 23/07/2010 12:00:08 AM 1102 Views
i think everyone lost their zeal when the primary poster died - 23/07/2010 12:24:32 AM 1223 Views
LOL, DK's still alive - 23/07/2010 12:53:21 AM 1246 Views
VICTORY IS MINE!!!!! - 23/07/2010 01:03:03 AM 1314 Views
Whoa, go me! - 23/07/2010 03:46:59 AM 1228 Views
Sorry - 23/07/2010 12:31:46 AM 1213 Views
Maybe we should mass claim? - 23/07/2010 01:11:50 AM 1211 Views
Meh, why not. - 23/07/2010 03:58:14 AM 1128 Views
Re: Meh, why not. - 23/07/2010 04:45:03 AM 1209 Views
Shrugs. - 23/07/2010 07:21:51 AM 1261 Views
disagree - 23/07/2010 10:03:48 AM 1176 Views
Alright. - 23/07/2010 03:03:16 PM 1226 Views
Re: Alright. - 23/07/2010 07:52:18 PM 1209 Views
Fanatic-Templar has been elected Chair. *NM* - 23/07/2010 11:04:21 AM 780 Views
Okay so... - 24/07/2010 04:58:31 AM 1108 Views
Re: Okay so... - 24/07/2010 03:47:58 PM 1235 Views
Yeah, sounds like it. - 24/07/2010 03:51:46 PM 1175 Views
I think so too... - 24/07/2010 05:34:24 PM 1195 Views
I guess Talic being Captain Morgan that makes sense. - 24/07/2010 07:48:38 PM 1156 Views
Re: I guess Talic being Captain Morgan that makes sense. - 24/07/2010 10:37:31 PM 1245 Views
Huh, that seems a little counterintuitive. - 24/07/2010 10:43:27 PM 1113 Views
Re: Huh, that seems a little counterintuitive. - 25/07/2010 12:50:44 AM 1081 Views
True. - 25/07/2010 06:16:18 AM 1121 Views
Yuna was your own doing. - 25/07/2010 06:27:33 AM 1022 Views
Did you have a say about whether or not to go in or was it decided by the mod? *NM* - 25/07/2010 05:10:28 AM 725 Views
Mod decided. *NM* - 25/07/2010 06:39:32 AM 676 Views
So I'm back. - 25/07/2010 05:30:42 AM 1171 Views
Re: massclaiming - 25/07/2010 06:22:37 AM 1183 Views
Re: So I'm back. - 25/07/2010 06:38:51 AM 1088 Views
Yes, that's the point. - 25/07/2010 07:08:26 AM 1151 Views
Re: Yes, that's the point. - 25/07/2010 07:21:07 AM 1152 Views
And you still didn't support lynching her then, is my point. - 25/07/2010 06:10:32 PM 1076 Views
Well, since I haven't taken part in a single vote thus far,can you really hold that against me? *NM* - 27/07/2010 09:28:14 AM 706 Views
Yes. *NM* - 27/07/2010 01:04:10 PM 738 Views
*NM* - 28/07/2010 11:24:37 PM 738 Views
Yuna1 with WF and old-you.... guess we have a Bus Driver. *NM* - 25/07/2010 06:48:47 AM 704 Views
Re: Yuna1 with WF and old-you.... guess we have a Bus Driver. - 25/07/2010 01:51:27 PM 1182 Views
Re: Yuna1 with WF and old-you.... guess we have a Bus Driver. - 25/07/2010 03:27:14 PM 1258 Views
yep, thanks - 25/07/2010 07:31:44 PM 1117 Views
Re: So I'm back. - 25/07/2010 01:50:54 PM 1147 Views
I don't have a problem claiming. - 25/07/2010 05:34:38 PM 1181 Views
what? - 25/07/2010 05:54:56 PM 1037 Views
That would actually be dead character knowledge, I think. - 25/07/2010 06:13:15 PM 1124 Views
i didn't know that - 25/07/2010 06:33:24 PM 970 Views
Just shush about it, hope you don't get modkilled. - 25/07/2010 07:32:56 PM 1051 Views
I will if Ranagrande asks me to. - 26/07/2010 02:23:18 AM 975 Views
Yea, that was as much a message to you as a reminder to him. - 26/07/2010 02:25:56 AM 1176 Views
It's all good - 26/07/2010 03:49:35 AM 1126 Views
Re: i didn't know that - 25/07/2010 07:33:40 PM 1170 Views
Yeah, but you could have been lying. - 26/07/2010 02:22:37 AM 1174 Views
I felt like it was past time I got back into this game. - 29/07/2010 12:48:57 AM 1193 Views
Re: I felt like it was past time I got back into this game. - 29/07/2010 02:15:31 AM 1186 Views
One detail... - 29/07/2010 02:43:45 AM 1126 Views
Re: One detail... - 29/07/2010 03:14:38 AM 1280 Views
This is one of the reasons I like my laptop ... - 29/07/2010 03:20:50 AM 1249 Views
Theoretically - 29/07/2010 03:22:35 AM 1194 Views
Generally speaking, yes. - 29/07/2010 07:46:34 PM 1159 Views
Re: I felt like it was past time I got back into this game. - 29/07/2010 04:40:55 AM 1307 Views
I would just like to note. - 29/07/2010 04:43:44 AM 1212 Views
Re: I would just like to note. - 29/07/2010 04:56:21 AM 1107 Views
- 29/07/2010 02:36:49 PM 1113 Views
Except Yesterday? - 29/07/2010 06:31:22 PM 1062 Views
*nods* - 29/07/2010 08:11:35 PM 1045 Views
Re: *nods* - 30/07/2010 03:38:36 AM 1107 Views
Even if Yuna was telling the truth, she claimed to be Jack Kerr. - 30/07/2010 03:45:25 AM 1161 Views
Re: Even if Yuna was telling the truth, she claimed to be Jack Kerr. - 30/07/2010 04:51:56 AM 1082 Views
Doesn't matter what she claimed to be. - 30/07/2010 04:08:55 PM 1213 Views
TBF, my char is dead now, so shut up about it *NM* - 30/07/2010 05:15:25 PM 749 Views
No offense to you. - 30/07/2010 09:45:21 PM 1190 Views
Re: No offense to you. - 31/07/2010 12:12:59 AM 1225 Views
Shh. I get confused a lot. - 31/07/2010 05:25:37 AM 1170 Views
Sorry, Yuna, but it is kinda necessary. *NM* - 31/07/2010 12:10:05 AM 670 Views
The truth she claimed was to have lied . - 30/07/2010 07:25:02 PM 1066 Views
Re: I would just like to note. - 29/07/2010 05:40:48 AM 1233 Views
RBIRL thurs-sunday - 29/07/2010 02:17:59 PM 1035 Views
The character formerly played by Napoleon62 now belongs to BlackAdder. *NM* - 01/08/2010 04:14:38 AM 633 Views
Sweet life friends. *NM* - 01/08/2010 07:31:38 AM 657 Views
I'm here, will hopefully make a real post soon *NM* - 02/08/2010 12:37:15 AM 672 Views
So...one of you guys who found my analysis of DK suspicious... - 01/08/2010 07:59:33 AM 1142 Views
Since I am currently cursed with insomnia, I think I will give it a try. - 01/08/2010 10:24:09 AM 1204 Views
Well it was kinda the idea to vote her out the second time... - 04/08/2010 03:01:38 AM 1243 Views
Heh. Divya was not meant to kill. *NM* - 04/08/2010 04:22:13 AM 568 Views
Fair enough, fair enough. *NM* - 04/08/2010 07:59:15 PM 680 Views
The character info compilation, which surprisingly hasn't been reposted - 02/08/2010 01:05:26 AM 1298 Views
Hmm. I'll actually have to correct this. - 02/08/2010 03:17:39 AM 1213 Views
lol - 02/08/2010 11:47:42 AM 1203 Views
OK, time to look at a few things - 02/08/2010 03:58:41 AM 1175 Views
A couple of notes. - 02/08/2010 02:24:55 PM 1148 Views
Re: A couple of notes. - 02/08/2010 04:32:08 PM 1059 Views
Not quite anyone. - 03/08/2010 03:23:59 AM 992 Views
A simple torch can't fry a person completely to ashes *NM* - 02/08/2010 10:31:05 PM 1127 Views
But killing them then putting them over a fire would. - 03/08/2010 03:23:25 AM 1008 Views
I do suspect that there's a fire-themed killer. - 03/08/2010 03:58:54 AM 1042 Views
Re: I do suspect that there's a fire-themed killer. - 03/08/2010 05:08:21 PM 1182 Views
Yeah, but they used it all in a one-shot at the Battle of Blackwater Bay . - 03/08/2010 07:23:46 PM 1170 Views
Re: Yeah, but they used it all in a one-shot at the Battle of Blackwater Bay . - 04/08/2010 02:49:50 PM 1141 Views
its a song of ice and fire - 04/08/2010 04:34:19 PM 1209 Views
Re: its a song of ice and fire - 05/08/2010 01:08:47 AM 1156 Views
yeah but Wheeler was a jerk. *NM* - 04/08/2010 03:09:04 AM 745 Views
You should read more carefully. - 06/08/2010 04:13:45 AM 1133 Views
Hrmm. All this dropping out is killing our game. - 06/08/2010 05:11:41 AM 1018 Views
Re: Hrmm. All this faffing is killing the game - 06/08/2010 09:06:23 AM 1167 Views
Faff faff faff - 06/08/2010 02:21:37 PM 1188 Views
yeah, once was enough for me. *NM* - 04/08/2010 03:03:25 AM 768 Views
So, let's up the pressure a bit. - 06/08/2010 06:37:22 AM 1127 Views
Re: So, let's up the pressure a bit. - 06/08/2010 04:49:16 PM 1185 Views
Re: So, let's up the pressure a bit. - 06/08/2010 05:55:27 PM 1443 Views
I'm not generally a believer in forcing roleclaims... - 06/08/2010 06:33:30 PM 1128 Views
Re: I'm not generally a believer in forcing roleclaims... - 06/08/2010 10:02:12 PM 1159 Views
So, she's one vote from death. - 07/08/2010 12:34:37 AM 1145 Views
Re: So, she's one vote from death. - 07/08/2010 03:32:13 AM 1130 Views
hey ho, summats happening - 06/08/2010 11:05:34 PM 1228 Views
Uh, I think you just lynched her - 07/08/2010 03:59:19 AM 1054 Views
EBWOP: Maybe not - 07/08/2010 04:01:54 AM 1244 Views
Re: EBWOP: Maybe not - 07/08/2010 06:37:10 AM 1285 Views
EBWOP - 07/08/2010 06:39:48 AM 1182 Views
FT has the Chair vote, so it is L-1 *NM* - 07/08/2010 09:59:22 AM 752 Views
Ahh Gotcha. Forgot about that. Thanks. *NM* - 07/08/2010 05:09:28 PM 608 Views
Re: EBWOP: Maybe not - 07/08/2010 02:25:12 PM 1054 Views
Re: EBWOP: Maybe not - 07/08/2010 10:30:05 AM 1156 Views
She already claimed to be the road runner from Looney Tunes - 07/08/2010 03:54:09 AM 1233 Views
Re: She already claimed to be the road runner from Looney Tunes - 07/08/2010 05:18:58 AM 1034 Views
Hmph, I thought it would be obvious. - 07/08/2010 03:27:15 PM 1093 Views
That's a reasonable interest. - 07/08/2010 03:35:01 PM 1107 Views
Re: That's a reasonable interest. - 07/08/2010 05:12:30 PM 1213 Views
Also, the roadrunner hurts the coyote quite a bit. - 07/08/2010 05:13:56 PM 1169 Views
True, but - 07/08/2010 05:29:31 PM 1110 Views
Hey, all he wants is a meal! - 07/08/2010 06:20:19 PM 1020 Views
Yea, but only with the traps Wil E set. *NM* - 07/08/2010 07:02:27 PM 563 Views
Well, there's your roleclaim. - 07/08/2010 06:21:17 PM 1121 Views
I think you can stop with the voting now. You've done what you wanted and it worked. - 07/08/2010 06:44:29 PM 1159 Views
Meh, I made a promise. - 07/08/2010 07:52:17 PM 1086 Views
Re: Well, there's your roleclaim. - 07/08/2010 07:00:36 PM 1200 Views
Or she could have investigated him. Just laying out all the options. - 07/08/2010 07:04:16 PM 1104 Views
That or White Flame is lying now. - 07/08/2010 07:55:00 PM 1083 Views
Deal. *NM* - 07/08/2010 09:00:40 PM 526 Views
He's lying or mistaken or something. - 07/08/2010 09:17:51 PM 1174 Views
Re: He's lying or mistaken or something. - 07/08/2010 09:31:20 PM 1110 Views
In your hypocop on Day 3, you claimed 'BlackAdder - guilty' - 07/08/2010 09:32:55 PM 1229 Views
Re: In your hypocop on Day 3, you claimed 'BlackAdder - guilty' - 07/08/2010 09:35:07 PM 1237 Views
eh, I guess that makes sense - 07/08/2010 09:44:50 PM 1055 Views
Hey! What'd I do? - 07/08/2010 05:42:29 AM 1156 Views
I agree...what? *NM* - 07/08/2010 06:31:04 AM 521 Views
You scammed some retard out of a Phione *NM* - 07/08/2010 04:45:22 PM 955 Views
Nah, the retard willingly gave it to me. Even better *NM* - 07/08/2010 06:58:45 PM 758 Views
Re: Hey! What'd I do? - 07/08/2010 05:12:04 PM 1157 Views
What's to comment on, really? - 07/08/2010 06:59:10 PM 1242 Views
Also, did you get the chance to do a Night Action last night? - 07/08/2010 07:01:49 PM 1241 Views
I jumped too quickly. If it's not too late - Unvote *NM* - 08/08/2010 03:06:35 AM 737 Views
I think it's too late - 08/08/2010 06:43:30 AM 1044 Views
Well, we'll find out soon enough I suppose. - 08/08/2010 03:16:07 PM 1009 Views
Well, if you didn't lie, you should be alright anyway. *NM* - 08/08/2010 05:15:32 PM 608 Views
Taking one for the team, right? - 08/08/2010 06:28:37 PM 1084 Views
EBWOP: someone needs to page ranagrande, too *NM* - 08/08/2010 06:29:46 PM 626 Views
*sschtz* Paging Dr. Ranagrande ... you're wanted in surgery *scchtxz* - 09/08/2010 02:47:15 AM 1069 Views
Righto, on my way! *NM* - 09/08/2010 03:02:14 AM 722 Views
Darth_Katie has been lynched - 09/08/2010 03:07:32 AM 1244 Views
I believe we are past 125 hours -- any update on when this will start back up? *NM* - 13/08/2010 06:39:40 AM 724 Views
So, do we assume Ranagrande has vanished and just move on to the next game? *NM* - 14/08/2010 08:05:27 PM 622 Views
Are we allowed to sub the mod? *NM* - 14/08/2010 08:21:28 PM 766 Views
It is possible - 15/08/2010 12:41:27 AM 1103 Views
Give it another day, stalemate isn't preferable - 14/08/2010 08:46:02 PM 1131 Views
Sure. - 14/08/2010 09:06:44 PM 1230 Views
Re: Sure. - 14/08/2010 09:30:15 PM 1166 Views
go post in the RP then - 14/08/2010 09:42:55 PM 1152 Views
You are aware I am dead there too? - 14/08/2010 09:45:49 PM 987 Views
*swears into a paper bag* - 14/08/2010 09:49:55 PM 1066 Views
I would be willing to try a replacement mod idea before calling it quits - 15/08/2010 12:48:50 AM 1198 Views
While you're waiting, I've posted a draft of the rules update - 15/08/2010 01:23:21 AM 1206 Views
*reads rules* - 15/08/2010 04:24:41 AM 1286 Views
Yeah, that's great. - 15/08/2010 06:41:43 AM 1180 Views
I'm back. - 16/08/2010 09:16:54 PM 1193 Views
Good to see - hope everything is OK *NM* - 16/08/2010 10:50:21 PM 652 Views

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