As I said, it was a tactic that could help roles hide until it was necessary to claim. Even if some roles did exist and they died at night, the scum wouldn't know until one actually claimed. As I explained, this has an overall pro-town effect because it limits the scum from being able to hunt roles. The town isn't really affected since their day-to-day job doesn't really change whether there are roles or not. And yes, I could imagine someone doing something like in your example and still be town. It all depends on what the setup is. If the setup could make sense for an all-cop game, then sure, someone could claim that and not actually be a cop.


Well, looks like I don't have a choice anymore... I thought I left a hint in my last post, but apparently it didn't work. My role message does mention ninjas because I'm a cop-type-role that looks for ninjas. It did not include a win condition (like, 'kill all the ninjas' or something to that extent). It does tell me that I'm a pirate (I must have had an identity crisis or severe retrograde amnesia to have forgotten that) and that is also the first part of my RM. That said, it's definitely not our traditional cop role (there are differences, for example, in when I can actually use my role and how the results should be interpreted, but I'd rather not get into those since it would tell the scum exactly how to counter me).

Now, I don't think either you or beet are ninjas since I believe you were the first two to say you didn't have any ninjas mentioned in your RMs. I don't think ninjas would have claimed something like that from the outset, unless they already knew what the standard town RM looked like (which I suppose is possible; mods can sometimes tell the mafia what the VT RM looks like, for example, to avoid the VTs just confirming themselves).

However, I just don't think it's a gambit quite that detailed, so I'm thinking you are probably townies. It would be pretty impressive if you two were actually scum and used that gambit, and in that case, I'd just tip my hat to you.

So, I still like my Kronin vote, as I honestly don't believe the jump that he made from what he wrote (i.e., vote someone who would use the role 'ninjaly' ) to what he is now suggesting he meant when he wrote it (vote someone we could tell was using it ninjaly, if they were actually ninja). Honestly, it really looks like a faux pas to me. He has not claimed either way what his RM says about ninjas, either.