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Re: Yes, I can agree that there's something debateable about the nature of his evil. Isaac Send a noteboard - 10/12/2010 07:38:42 PM
But me, I realised he was completely evil from the setup in episode one. In fact, I was so disgusted that the authours expected us to follow around this evil bastard and treat him as though his actions were justifiable that I dropped the series there until my friend told me that Light was indeed intended to be evil by the authour.


I'd seen one episode a little under halfway through as an intro from a friend so when I went back to watch it from Ep 1 I knew he was the villain, I had expected the move to the darkside to take a little longer than one episode though, cackling about godhood before the the episode finishes is not so much a gradual descent to darkness as a bullet train. But he was, in some ways, a sympathetic character occasionally, but its really about the complex scheming, I do tend to root for the 'bad guy' a lot though. But choice of medium matters, I watched the english dubbed cartoon, for instance, like Revenge of the Sith, the movie sucked but I loved it because I was in the field when it came out and read the book, which gives Vader a very logical and sympathetic path to evil as opposed to the movie, which when I saw it was brutally painful. Pages of rational dialog disappear into what amounts to "I'm evil, join me!" "No, you're evil!" "Yes, evil, MWAHAHAHA, join me!" "So be it, master" "Go kill children now!"

As far as tragic villain/well intentioned genocidal maniac goes, I prefer Lelouch from Code Geass.


Yeah, that's on my list to do as another recommended series to my tastes

The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift.
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Some answers - 09/12/2010 02:57:11 PM 1051 Views
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Ok better answers...I did some research. - 09/12/2010 03:17:45 PM 898 Views
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Interesting. - 09/12/2010 07:16:00 PM 1105 Views
Demonstration would be: - 09/12/2010 07:36:38 PM 1129 Views
Ah. - 09/12/2010 07:48:16 PM 1179 Views
That's not a great demonstration - 09/12/2010 07:55:11 PM 1027 Views
Hm, bold. - 09/12/2010 08:34:32 PM 1078 Views
How often does Isaac hammer anyway? - 10/12/2010 04:19:00 AM 1157 Views
Re: I'm gonna go ahead and RC, plus questions - 09/12/2010 08:11:29 PM 921 Views
Let's do this. - 09/12/2010 08:24:57 PM 1275 Views
damn, not sure why it posted with that. Sorry all. *NM* - 09/12/2010 08:26:33 PM 975 Views
On a complete wild jump... - 10/12/2010 04:29:41 AM 1061 Views
He's trying to create a world WITHOUT evil. Don't you know anything!?! - 10/12/2010 05:44:15 AM 954 Views
He's failing pretty hard *NM* - 10/12/2010 06:52:15 AM 656 Views
Well, that shouldn't matter anyway for the purposes of the question - 10/12/2010 07:51:49 AM 1088 Views
I assumed he was kidding. - 10/12/2010 08:25:38 AM 1005 Views
He does have a certain tragic vilian thing going on - 10/12/2010 12:02:19 PM 973 Views
Yes, I can agree that there's something debateable about the nature of his evil. - 10/12/2010 06:24:21 PM 1091 Views
Re: Yes, I can agree that there's something debateable about the nature of his evil. - 10/12/2010 07:38:42 PM 1040 Views
It's less about his descent into villainy, and more about Light vs. L - 10/12/2010 08:23:30 PM 1066 Views
Yeah, I was kidding. I agree with what you said - 10/12/2010 02:32:31 PM 904 Views
It just means that he's inappropriate. - 10/12/2010 02:55:25 PM 1008 Views
I completely missed the thread where this in-joke started *NM* - 10/12/2010 07:15:49 PM 618 Views
It was from the Community board - 10/12/2010 08:03:08 PM 1000 Views
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Man, I gotta start watchign Death Note again - 10/12/2010 05:25:39 PM 911 Views
Re: I'm gonna go ahead and RC, plus questions - 09/12/2010 10:03:08 PM 1037 Views
Huh - 09/12/2010 11:48:14 PM 928 Views
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Hah, me too. Dragonball is honestly terrible... - 10/12/2010 05:34:00 AM 918 Views
Ditto on DragonBall-Z - 10/12/2010 01:06:52 PM 1060 Views
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Exactly! - 10/12/2010 03:49:22 PM 927 Views
Now that's dedication to nostalgia - 10/12/2010 04:03:46 PM 902 Views
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I had to learn it from the manga . - 10/12/2010 06:28:48 PM 959 Views
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What's with all these yeses from ranagrande? - 09/12/2010 08:28:40 PM 1026 Views
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I like answering either/or questions with "yes" - 09/12/2010 10:25:15 PM 1005 Views
So... we have no anime experts here? I think we should all name 4 sources - 10/12/2010 03:30:45 AM 917 Views
I don't know if that will at all be useful - 10/12/2010 03:52:59 AM 976 Views
Hm, the whole "modern times" thing could work against us... - 10/12/2010 05:33:14 AM 1036 Views
Sure, why not - 10/12/2010 05:07:49 AM 880 Views
OK, here are my 4 - 10/12/2010 05:42:27 AM 1084 Views
I was going to agree to this... - 10/12/2010 06:59:09 AM 1072 Views
I'm going to have to agree. I think I may have said too much, or - 10/12/2010 07:41:02 AM 885 Views
I'm with you here - 10/12/2010 03:53:58 PM 987 Views
Alright then - 10/12/2010 02:24:08 PM 1031 Views
Sure - 10/12/2010 04:44:04 PM 967 Views
This might not be a good idea. - 10/12/2010 11:54:09 PM 981 Views
The 4 sources, or the linking to tvtropes? *NM* - 11/12/2010 10:02:15 PM 606 Views
Both? I atleast tend to get trapped in tvtropes for hours when someone links a page. *NM* - 11/12/2010 10:21:25 PM 603 Views
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At the moment i've been on tvtropes for two and a half hours - 12/12/2010 12:37:17 AM 1017 Views
The "Random" button is my downfall. *NM* - 12/12/2010 02:54:55 AM 620 Views
Both. - 15/12/2010 04:23:08 AM 1182 Views
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This one's tricky - 13/12/2010 12:23:36 AM 1111 Views
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Damn, they spelled your name wrong on your Social Security card? - 13/12/2010 06:26:22 PM 916 Views
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EBWOP - 13/12/2010 07:16:46 PM 999 Views
Kind of back, but not quite - 13/12/2010 10:47:30 PM 1039 Views
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Any thoughts or clues? - 14/12/2010 10:26:15 PM 1068 Views
Finals suck. - 15/12/2010 01:36:47 AM 983 Views
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I.... don't know. - 15/12/2010 03:25:22 AM 844 Views
It's true, at least it was something. - 15/12/2010 04:23:44 AM 1027 Views
Sorry, I won't do this. - 15/12/2010 04:18:00 AM 899 Views
Fair enough. - 15/12/2010 04:23:08 AM 1076 Views
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Maybe Blackadder for changing his name like a jerk? - 15/12/2010 04:59:20 AM 1105 Views
You know, you may have something there.... - 15/12/2010 08:39:22 AM 1050 Views
I agree. - 16/12/2010 12:56:44 AM 966 Views
Hm. Well, I don't think we should give out any more role info - 15/12/2010 09:19:07 PM 971 Views
Re: Hm. Well, I don't think we should give out any more role info - 15/12/2010 10:03:43 PM 1052 Views
Well we COULD roleclaim. - 16/12/2010 12:58:28 AM 1014 Views
Yeah, as of yet we don't know that much about anyone - 16/12/2010 01:55:59 PM 1027 Views
The problem with a no lynch - 16/12/2010 03:16:31 PM 983 Views
Oh right, yeah - 16/12/2010 06:05:23 PM 972 Views
Re: The problem with a no lynch - 16/12/2010 08:33:22 PM 968 Views
The GREAT AND POWERFUL INFODUMP (chart) - 16/12/2010 03:52:55 PM 982 Views
My male/female thing really should change to mostly female. *NM* - 16/12/2010 06:09:18 PM 562 Views
Fixed. If anyone else spots errors, let me know *NM* - 16/12/2010 08:33:08 PM 622 Views
Mine's wrong - 16/12/2010 08:39:51 PM 1084 Views
Thank you for doing the chart by the way *NM* - 16/12/2010 08:44:30 PM 594 Views
Sure. Now we just have to see if it's useful at all... - 16/12/2010 09:07:27 PM 1025 Views
Not me! I'm not quiet! See? I'm talking! *NM* - 16/12/2010 09:39:49 PM 471 Views
Not me either! - 16/12/2010 11:25:31 PM 989 Views
FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM! - 17/12/2010 05:39:36 PM 1002 Views
They can take our land! - 18/12/2010 03:06:47 AM 1101 Views
I actually said a massclaim was a BAD idea. Hm. Is Haemophilus influenzae Light Yagami? - 18/12/2010 02:28:39 PM 1005 Views
I don't want to lynch our vig though ... - 18/12/2010 04:43:52 PM 937 Views
Well we have to kill someone - 18/12/2010 07:14:28 PM 1027 Views
Am I missing something? - 19/12/2010 05:18:17 AM 1078 Views
He really isn't. - 19/12/2010 08:14:32 AM 1059 Views
Yeah, I was just confused, because we suddenly had a big convo about it - 19/12/2010 03:39:12 PM 999 Views
Okay, I found the discussion. - 19/12/2010 05:17:29 PM 1014 Views
Well if he WAS Light, I would vote to lynch - 19/12/2010 09:31:47 PM 980 Views
I think there's a consensus of Light=KiraKiller=bad - 19/12/2010 09:51:21 PM 842 Views
That is the impression that I got *NM* - 19/12/2010 09:59:20 PM 609 Views
I really don't see Light Yagami as being obviously evil - 19/12/2010 11:24:42 PM 944 Views
Well, this has been discussed - 19/12/2010 11:50:53 PM 939 Views
He's the textbook definition of a serial killer. - 20/12/2010 02:19:45 AM 909 Views
Eh... I guess not. - 20/12/2010 01:36:57 AM 1021 Views
Well that might be me... - 16/12/2010 09:45:03 PM 998 Views
Re: Well that might be me... - 16/12/2010 10:12:00 PM 929 Views
Could be me... - 16/12/2010 10:10:01 PM 1045 Views
Their bell tower? *NM* - 16/12/2010 11:21:00 PM 588 Views
Oh sure - 16/12/2010 11:53:09 PM 1025 Views
... so that was more depressing that I was anticipating. - 18/12/2010 03:09:52 AM 990 Views
Re: Isaac - 20/12/2010 12:22:16 AM 1008 Views
Apparently it was a good guess - 20/12/2010 04:55:32 AM 949 Views
Update - 20/12/2010 04:50:48 AM 1000 Views
Well, the claim is certainly believable - 20/12/2010 05:01:38 AM 949 Views
Hahaha awesome. - 20/12/2010 05:31:05 AM 1006 Views
Re: Hahaha awesome. - 20/12/2010 05:59:42 AM 1022 Views
Fair enough. OK, gang, what should we do? - 20/12/2010 02:26:45 PM 964 Views
Here's wat I'll do: - 20/12/2010 05:01:00 PM 1088 Views
Oy. - 20/12/2010 05:20:38 PM 1002 Views
F-T made it pretty clear that Light was eeeeevil. - 20/12/2010 09:48:57 PM 910 Views
I think the real issue is, should we try to control him, or should we just lynch him? - 20/12/2010 11:55:09 PM 910 Views
Well, the obvious choice is not to kill anyone Tonight - 21/12/2010 03:01:57 AM 975 Views
Yeah, I won't be killing anyone Tonight. - 21/12/2010 04:29:53 AM 954 Views
Something about this situation bugs the heck out of me - 21/12/2010 04:49:11 AM 993 Views
Improbable how? *NM* - 21/12/2010 05:01:00 AM 595 Views
The pieces don't add up - 21/12/2010 06:00:07 AM 1022 Views
That's definitely possible. Yeah, I'm keeping my vote up. - 21/12/2010 02:25:28 PM 1164 Views
Well, Death Note is pretty popular. - 21/12/2010 04:59:27 PM 1056 Views
Is it? - 21/12/2010 06:06:16 PM 973 Views
Actually, yeah. It's th only legit anime I hear about besides DBZ and Gundam and that stuff. - 21/12/2010 07:03:09 PM 952 Views
I had assumed we were a biased group, it fits - 22/12/2010 03:01:43 AM 899 Views
Re: I had assumed we were a biased group, it fits - 22/12/2010 04:54:37 AM 994 Views
No, you're definitely overthinking it - 21/12/2010 08:50:45 PM 1105 Views
That's not what I meant - 22/12/2010 01:44:45 AM 1035 Views
Actually, my initial post description does fit Light "like a glove" - 22/12/2010 05:40:00 AM 1016 Views
I just glanced at the wiki- it's pretty dense, without explaining much - 22/12/2010 05:43:30 AM 964 Views
Re: I just glanced at the wiki- it's pretty dense, without explaining much - 22/12/2010 05:56:17 AM 882 Views
Re: I just glanced at the wiki- it's pretty dense, without explaining much - 22/12/2010 03:02:26 PM 1067 Views
Honestly, I could very easily believe an Operative=Town claim. - 22/12/2010 04:00:07 PM 952 Views
I should have said "Operative if he intended to rule, instead of kill himself" - 22/12/2010 04:46:58 PM 1097 Views
Even then... - 22/12/2010 05:31:14 PM 965 Views
RBIRL - 21/12/2010 01:27:03 AM 1030 Views
Just popping in. - 21/12/2010 07:47:18 AM 973 Views
Vote for HI! - 21/12/2010 02:25:56 PM 896 Views
Re: Vote for HI! - 21/12/2010 09:21:11 PM 996 Views
I think HI made a minor error when F-T guessed he was Light, and the "limited use vig" is an attempt - 22/12/2010 01:22:51 AM 975 Views
What error is that? - 22/12/2010 05:54:33 AM 985 Views
Re: What error is that? - 22/12/2010 02:47:38 PM 953 Views
That does make sense. I'll have to think about this. *NM* - 22/12/2010 08:55:01 AM 485 Views
I'm not sure if Light=evil - 21/12/2010 09:31:47 PM 1003 Views
Haemophilus influenzae: What are your restrictions? - 22/12/2010 04:06:20 PM 1049 Views
BIRL - 22/12/2010 05:35:23 PM 1065 Views
RBIRL - 22/12/2010 09:08:26 PM 913 Views
I'm back! - 22/12/2010 11:26:56 PM 952 Views
This is pretty much how I feel. - 23/12/2010 04:24:34 PM 940 Views
RBIRL - 23/12/2010 07:58:34 AM 1127 Views
Christmas is the perfect time of the year... for MURDER *NM* - 23/12/2010 02:29:29 PM 609 Views
RBIRL for the rest of the year - 23/12/2010 10:02:15 PM 1005 Views
Probably no surprise but semi-RBIRL - 24/12/2010 02:28:13 PM 1001 Views
Heck, I might as well say it too. RBIRL. - 24/12/2010 03:18:15 PM 1085 Views
Blooooood - 28/12/2010 06:58:25 PM 970 Views
Blood for the Blood God! - 28/12/2010 08:09:31 PM 974 Views
All right: Vote: Haemophilus influenzae - 28/12/2010 10:00:05 PM 905 Views
I suppose this really is the only realistic option - 28/12/2010 10:15:43 PM 967 Views
Vote: Haemophilus influenzae - 29/12/2010 12:08:17 AM 1094 Views
Re: Vote: Haemophilus influenzae - 29/12/2010 12:49:51 AM 951 Views
Vote: Haemophilus influenzae - 29/12/2010 09:06:36 AM 932 Views
If I had a hammer... - 29/12/2010 07:43:54 PM 998 Views
twilight - 29/12/2010 10:29:14 PM 1224 Views
HAH - 30/12/2010 03:46:01 AM 1143 Views
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Lame. Come back soon! *NM* - 02/01/2011 05:50:29 PM 598 Views
Good luck with your stuff! - 03/01/2011 05:31:49 AM 998 Views
Like beet and DK said, good luck and come back soon! *NM* - 03/01/2011 09:06:06 PM 514 Views

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