I feel like this akin to Hypocopping. It's not game-breaking.
Fox and Ravens Send a noteboard - 05/02/2011 10:34:21 PM
I also find it interesting that Isaac's role message wasn't explicit on that matter. Being Day 1, this launches him to the top of my list, though I'm nowhere near voting yet. I also think it is interesting that he's avoided any statements a lie detector could use. If the one I provided really wouldn't do, could you try an alternative? Just something to pin you down on.
I've previously stated I won't let people force me into lie detection situations like this, I consider it a game-breaking cheat, and while I'm okay with people using exploits to their advantage, its a one time thing, they find it and we do away with it. I see no reason to prove myself this way, I will do so, this one last time, just so I can cite it as the reason for my refusal in future games since I am to the best of my knowledge a townie and my RM post-game will confirm that said interpretation is the most probable. You pick the statement, but its far more logical for a lie detector if they exist to pick through the dozens of lie-detectable comments I've made that without explicit word twisting would come up true and show I wasn't scum, I gave all those specifically to avoid the 'He never said it" thingy, considering I already openly said I can't be sure I'm town, and that in my opinion I am not the only one with a non-explicit RM on that point, they weren't lying if they didn't think of that but I did and I would be lying if I said I'm aligned with the town because I am not sure and I have said so.
Go Hokies!
CS/CpE. Yay engineering!
CS/CpE. Yay engineering!
Mafia 21: Sunrise and Spelling
28/01/2011 06:19:23 AM
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Got my role and stuff
28/01/2011 04:03:05 PM
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All right then, first line of inquiry: Are you a person?
29/01/2011 12:24:04 AM
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I bet it's going to turn out that there is no Mafia
30/01/2011 01:37:06 AM
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What makes you think that? *NM*
30/01/2011 01:54:27 AM
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Because DK is obviously an artistic soul, who wants to hold a mirror up to reality
30/01/2011 05:42:35 AM
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Okay, so we have pretty much established that we are all human and have something of a character.
30/01/2011 05:04:07 PM
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Damn, I'm missing a Katie game. Stupid broken laptop. *NM*
30/01/2011 10:34:20 PM
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I doubt names could be dangerous
31/01/2011 05:09:05 AM
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Man... you'd think someone would have come up with a good Day One strategy by now *NM*
31/01/2011 05:32:09 AM
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Let's lynch someone!
31/01/2011 12:30:47 PM
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Now, now...
31/01/2011 05:39:47 PM
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KILL THE LAWYER
31/01/2011 05:59:10 PM
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I'm not advocating giving out job titles, but I'll release mine too.
31/01/2011 07:04:05 PM
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This needs to stop, IMO.
01/02/2011 12:46:59 AM
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I agree with this
01/02/2011 04:57:59 PM
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But didn't we see from the intro that there are no clever mafia? *NM*
01/02/2011 11:53:29 PM
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A quick idea:
01/02/2011 09:46:45 PM
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I am aligned with the town *NM*
03/02/2011 12:46:10 AM
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However
03/02/2011 12:49:54 AM
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Re: However
03/02/2011 01:00:46 AM
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On that score
03/02/2011 11:12:08 AM
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I see...so you think it was uselss?
03/02/2011 04:38:28 PM
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Son of a
02/02/2011 12:51:51 AM
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oh no!
02/02/2011 04:57:48 AM
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I have good news, actually!
02/02/2011 02:23:06 PM
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Re: I have good news, actually!
02/02/2011 03:42:16 PM
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We had the first snow day today in 11 years.
*NM*
02/02/2011 04:22:00 PM
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In 11 years? o.O
02/02/2011 04:46:07 PM
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Ah, it snows here all the time.
02/02/2011 05:38:17 PM
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It's always a question of infrastructure.
02/02/2011 05:46:32 PM
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I had my first snow day the day before my schools thanksgiving break this year.
02/02/2011 07:13:33 PM
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You americans are all too soft!
02/02/2011 09:47:21 PM
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Hey I'm under three feet now!
02/02/2011 11:00:42 PM
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Vote: Stephen
02/02/2011 05:31:47 PM
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Why not be suspicious of isaac then?
02/02/2011 05:42:12 PM
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and what complete twat uses his/her full name on the internet? its asking for trouble
02/02/2011 07:04:07 PM
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Meh, I'm always suspicious of Isaac
03/02/2011 07:52:48 PM
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Guys! Murder!
03/02/2011 07:54:11 PM
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Well, it still is your day, seeing as you are all alive and everything *NM*
03/02/2011 08:55:23 PM
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Re: Well, it still is your day, seeing as you are all alive and everything
03/02/2011 11:48:03 PM
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I was badly paraphrasing a quote from WoT
04/02/2011 12:14:36 AM
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Quote found:
04/02/2011 12:20:48 AM
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I find myself concerned about our apparent enemy
05/02/2011 01:59:12 AM
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Re: I find myself concerned about our apparent enemy
05/02/2011 03:13:18 AM
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I really don't wee where this accusation is coming from.
05/02/2011 06:50:38 PM
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I think you protest too much
05/02/2011 08:34:40 PM
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Re: I think you protest too much
05/02/2011 10:11:50 PM
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Re: I think you protest too much
05/02/2011 10:31:40 PM
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Okay. A few things:
05/02/2011 07:49:46 PM
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Re: Okay. A few things:
05/02/2011 08:05:49 PM
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If there was a cult, then it could change if someone was recruited
05/02/2011 08:58:23 PM
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What Beet said. Also look at Judas and Saulus on Mafiawiki. I'll link it.
05/02/2011 09:08:37 PM
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Potentially
05/02/2011 09:25:26 PM
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I feel like this akin to Hypocopping. It's not game-breaking.
05/02/2011 10:34:21 PM
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Big difference
05/02/2011 10:51:45 PM
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Maybe a variation...
06/02/2011 12:25:37 AM
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I can't see how that would work
06/02/2011 01:32:51 AM
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I'm tending to agree with you after thinking about it, but yes. Lets wait until post-game to discuss *NM*
06/02/2011 01:59:32 AM
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This day has been dragginf rather long.
05/02/2011 10:04:42 PM
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duh! vote for someone
05/02/2011 10:09:16 PM
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I still think we should lynch Stephen
05/02/2011 10:57:23 PM
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Didn't realise the point of the game was to sate your ego, and thirst for fame.
06/02/2011 12:11:25 AM
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I see some options right now.
07/02/2011 06:34:11 PM
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We have a lot of people talking in the intro.
07/02/2011 09:15:14 PM
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I'm probably the "weathered farmer" *NM*
07/02/2011 09:51:13 PM
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"All right Katie what's this all about?" The one with the pitch fork?
07/02/2011 10:58:00 PM
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Re: "All right Katie what's this all about?" The one with the pitch fork?
07/02/2011 11:07:59 PM
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Re: "All right Katie what's this all about?" The one with the pitch fork?
07/02/2011 11:48:37 PM
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Re: "All right Katie what's this all about?" The one with the pitch fork?
08/02/2011 12:25:31 AM
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Re: "All right Katie what's this all about?" The one with the pitch fork?
08/02/2011 01:10:23 AM
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Re: "All right Katie what's this all about?" The one with the pitch fork?
08/02/2011 01:21:53 AM
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Re: "All right Katie what's this all about?" The one with the pitch fork?
08/02/2011 10:59:15 PM
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Re: "All right Katie what's this all about?" The one with the pitch fork?
09/02/2011 12:07:25 AM
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Re: "All right Katie what's this all about?" The one with the pitch fork?
09/02/2011 12:24:25 AM
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Re: "All right Katie what's this all about?" The one with the pitch fork?
09/02/2011 02:37:45 AM
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Re: "All right Katie what's this all about?" The one with the pitch fork?
09/02/2011 10:06:46 PM
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Probably? Did your RM have you saying something, or were you just basing it off of the farmer fact? *NM*
08/02/2011 01:20:46 AM
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As mentioned above, I was jsut basing it off of the farmer fact.
08/02/2011 01:22:46 AM
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I'd want to double check, but...
07/02/2011 10:04:03 PM
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I also speak in the intro. Probably should have said that in my last post. *NM*
08/02/2011 01:19:17 AM
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By the end of the week, I plan on voting for someone.
09/02/2011 06:24:48 PM
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I think we should vote for someone who hasn't been participating much.
10/02/2011 06:17:55 AM
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Isn't that always the plan when we run out of ideas on who to lynch? *NM*
10/02/2011 06:44:02 AM
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Well, sometimes it's no-lynch, but I'm not going to suggest that, obviously
.
10/02/2011 07:36:19 AM
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Good with me.
10/02/2011 10:49:25 PM
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Re: Good with me.
10/02/2011 10:58:52 PM
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Are we really down to random lynch?
10/02/2011 08:47:16 AM
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Why we should vote for you.
11/02/2011 04:26:05 PM
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I feel like it might come down to voting for you
12/02/2011 12:47:13 AM
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Re: I feel like it might come down to voting for you
12/02/2011 07:07:29 PM
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Re: I feel like it might come down to voting for you
12/02/2011 07:59:55 PM
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Hm, let's take a look at the numbers...
13/02/2011 05:17:19 PM
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Re: Hm, let's take a look at the numbers...
13/02/2011 05:25:11 PM
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Now that I have two votes...
13/02/2011 05:57:39 PM
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He has a point *NM*
13/02/2011 06:31:07 PM
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Haha do I talk about reading the future in entrails that often? As for the rest...
12/02/2011 04:34:50 AM
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I'll be the first to admit that a Lie Detector Role is unlikely to appear in this game.
14/02/2011 08:13:15 PM
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DEADLINE
13/02/2011 06:45:07 PM
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I know already that I'm going to be RBIRL next weekend (friday-sunday). *NM*
13/02/2011 08:20:27 PM
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I'd like Isaac to clarify one of his posts from earlier.
13/02/2011 10:09:02 PM
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It's tricky to clarify paranoid ramblings
14/02/2011 12:30:51 AM
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Hmm, I don't know.
14/02/2011 01:05:05 AM
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Did you just accuse me?
14/02/2011 01:09:43 AM
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Re: Did you just accuse me?
14/02/2011 01:34:47 AM
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Re: Did you just accuse me?
14/02/2011 01:59:50 AM
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I can't say I have any questions for you.
14/02/2011 02:04:41 AM
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It is rather difficult for me to rebut an accusation of that sort
14/02/2011 02:10:49 AM
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Could someone clarify what this 'slip up' was by the way?
14/02/2011 01:17:59 AM
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My biggest confusion,
14/02/2011 04:43:47 AM
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Okay
14/02/2011 05:14:55 AM
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Speaking Parts (Table)
15/02/2011 02:17:25 AM
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Further consideration of my vote. Unvote, Vote: Bergioyn
15/02/2011 03:10:42 AM
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Bergioyn has been ticking the back of my mind for a good chunk of the game.
15/02/2011 04:13:58 AM
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Yeah, I think if elections were today, Bergioyn would get my vote. *NM*
15/02/2011 05:46:34 AM
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If your reason for voting me is that I have third least posts, shouldn't you be voting for whoever
15/02/2011 03:28:18 PM
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Well, odds are no one is lying about speaking roles (Table)
15/02/2011 04:25:15 PM
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Agreed.
15/02/2011 04:30:58 PM
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Usually - also I guess I have a plan
15/02/2011 04:52:40 PM
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I honestly don't know how useful your first list is
15/02/2011 06:06:39 PM
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I agree with beet here. I don't see your list as being all that good. *NM*
15/02/2011 09:43:00 PM
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There's room for legit objection to the list, I made some, but I note the 3 who object aren't on it
16/02/2011 04:15:16 AM
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So, why don't you suspect Fox and Ravens, again?
16/02/2011 05:27:36 AM
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I'd thought that was fairly clear
16/02/2011 06:05:28 AM
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Ehhh I don't think this requires as much deliberation as you think.
16/02/2011 06:29:06 AM
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Hard to tell, if a scummer who had answered could let us know we'd have data
16/02/2011 06:51:10 AM
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No, that's ridiculous.
15/02/2011 08:14:26 PM
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Your rebuttal seems rather off the mark
16/02/2011 04:09:49 AM
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Hmm? My objection had nothing to do with the pool of candidates.
16/02/2011 08:03:15 AM
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Re: Well, odds are no one is lying about speaking roles.
15/02/2011 09:40:45 PM
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Re: Well, odds are no one is lying about speaking roles.
15/02/2011 10:30:44 PM
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I think "unusually erudite hobo" is right in DK's sense of humor *NM*
16/02/2011 12:37:32 AM
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Yeah, I thought the same thing. But that would be a very DK thing to do.
16/02/2011 04:18:09 PM
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So does anyone want to hazard a guess as to what roles we do have?
15/02/2011 09:24:59 PM
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PS those roles were taken from the mafiascum wiki's list of basic roles *NM*
15/02/2011 09:26:04 PM
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Sure.
15/02/2011 09:37:38 PM
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Re: Sure.
15/02/2011 10:25:16 PM
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Too many mafia are usually a hindrance, actually.
15/02/2011 10:56:59 PM
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Plus, remember that their win condition is "Achieve a majority in the town"
16/02/2011 12:40:50 AM
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Re: Sure.
15/02/2011 11:04:55 PM
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I wouldn't
16/02/2011 12:09:38 AM
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Oh, Darth_Katie's was the game we started off lylo?
16/02/2011 01:13:04 AM
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I think that was one of Kronin's games you're thinking of.
16/02/2011 01:56:21 AM
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I'm torn here.
16/02/2011 08:59:23 PM
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So, it seems like the two candidates are ranagrande and Bergioyn
17/02/2011 12:06:48 AM
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Unvote
17/02/2011 01:26:24 AM
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If this is the general feeling. I shall go along. *NM*
17/02/2011 01:36:06 AM
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Cool. If you, stephen, and a couple more people vote, we'll have a lynch *NM*
17/02/2011 02:58:49 AM
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This is crap.
17/02/2011 07:31:46 AM
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Pretty much
17/02/2011 03:07:00 PM
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Also, I'm not sure if we 7 votes yet but let's not have anymore votes for the moment
17/02/2011 03:16:34 PM
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Okay, Vote Table, L-1 apparently
17/02/2011 03:58:43 PM
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Yeah.
17/02/2011 08:39:50 PM
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Rc
17/02/2011 07:54:22 PM
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I'll hold off the hammer for the moment
18/02/2011 12:01:52 AM
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I doubt that'll happen.
18/02/2011 02:52:04 AM
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Your discussing nothing. Unvote, Vote: Bergioyn *NM*
18/02/2011 04:28:17 PM
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How odd...
18/02/2011 04:48:28 PM
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I think he was just impatient and frustrated *NM*
18/02/2011 05:12:01 PM
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he's not the only one
18/02/2011 06:45:22 PM
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Yeah, but ending it early and cutting off discussion and planning doesn't help.
18/02/2011 07:26:14 PM
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But suicide?
18/02/2011 09:29:27 PM
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Well, let's be hypotetical here.
18/02/2011 09:32:45 PM
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...Scum...? *NM*
18/02/2011 10:36:33 PM
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That is really weird
18/02/2011 06:38:15 PM
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Too late, I got there first
*NM*
18/02/2011 08:45:22 PM
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No rule against being the super hammer! *NM*
18/02/2011 08:56:21 PM
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Technically, Day ends with the lynch, so we shouldn't be posting at all.
18/02/2011 09:46:38 PM
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Re: Technically, Day ends with the lynch, so we shouldn't be posting at all.
18/02/2011 10:03:11 PM
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