It could be either you, me, or Stephen here. I'm guessing Stephen.
Guessing Stephen what?
Is mistaken on the Oedipus era.
I picked Archaic because of the Timeline of the Theban Cycle and the prominence of Delphi in the stories, I put 'probably' on it because of the references to Pelops, grandfather of Agamemnon and Menelaus from the Trojan War, and Lauis, Oedipus's father. The Theban cycle was written down sometime around the 750 and 500 BC, and with so much revolving around delphi I've always assumed Pelops was shoe-horned in to add to the atmosphere of woe. Whichever, not classical era.
From the original <a href="http://www.readandfindout.com/rpg/messageboard/201536/">era question</a>, when naming characters from Ancient Greece:
Archaic Greece 800-480 BC
Classical Greece 510 BC to 323 BC (Death of Alexander)
...
Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, Alexander the Great and any of their various contemporaries would be classic era, Oedipus Rex would probably be Archaic.
If you had this character and disagreed, you could easily have raised the matter at the time, nobody would have thought it weird to have challenged that or automatically assumed you were he, so why didn't you? I think it is very unrealistic to assume you missed that, the post was obviously pretty prominent, it named you by character, you'd not be having problems now if you said Archaic or Late Helladic. Nor of course does Yuna's choice matter since you didn't know who she was when you gave an era, but she places it as Archaic to classic, which implied she took the date off the Theban Cycle, note the overlap for the Theban Cycle, as late as 500 BC, and the overlap listed for Archaic and Classical Eras, and again my 'probably' comment. The stories are likely even older than that.
Here's the problem, it seems very unrealistic that you could see your characters name linked to an age that explicitly and not take note of it, so it would seem to me that it wold be natural for you to mention that in your claim, what's more, it should seem that would have strongly encouraged you to check the date throughly, decreasing the odds of making the mistake and I would think strongly increasing the odds you would bring it up when you claimed, if for no better reason than to dispute it and let everyone know that the apparent era mistake is a conflict you were aware of, not a mistake that might imply guilt. You jsut don't seem to have had your character on your mind to a degree which would seem realistic to me.
But as to all this, I find it very realistic to do what I had done. I had only checked the date on wiki. I didn't go in depth. I saw 429 BC an said "OK, my date is 429 BC. Marking that on your calender, it's Classical Greece. It say's classic greek on wiki? This has to be right." How is this at all unrealistic? As to why I didn't call you out, why would I draw attention to the one character you happened to name by chance? We weren't sharing character claims so I decided to not draw attention to it. You said "probably" anyway and 429 BC is pretty close to Archaic. I wasn't really thinking about the time it was actually written. Apparently what I was looking at was just when it was performed. I also didn't think my claim would cause this much of a commotion. It's pretty darn close to the era and the mistake is pretty clear. If you can't see how this was an easy mistake, you'll kick yourself if you lynch me.
Go Hokies!
CS/CpE. Yay engineering!
CS/CpE. Yay engineering!
Mafia 22: Day 2 - Get the Ball Rolling
- 05/05/2011 07:29:12 PM
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Well, I guess that's for the best.
- 05/05/2011 07:46:52 PM
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Yeah, I guess that's not a worst case scenario
- 05/05/2011 08:19:50 PM
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Actually, probably best thing that could have happened, to be honest.
- 05/05/2011 08:36:57 PM
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OK, so the Bergioyn thing was kind of a bust
- 06/05/2011 04:58:14 AM
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I am against this plan.
- 06/05/2011 05:53:27 AM
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I'm inclined to agree with beetnemesis, actually.
- 06/05/2011 08:27:54 AM
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Are you really that sure that DK is evil to vote?
- 06/05/2011 12:24:21 PM
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Okay, right now I'm looking at Beet, FT, and DK
- 07/05/2011 02:04:01 AM
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Re: Okay, right now I'm looking at Beet, FT, and DK
- 07/05/2011 03:01:55 AM
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Re: Okay, right now I'm looking at Beet, FT, and DK
- 07/05/2011 05:10:09 AM
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A roleclaim seems pretty reasonable
- 07/05/2011 07:00:53 AM
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I think he wants identity claims, not roleclaims. Otherwise he'd have asked for mine too. *NM*
- 07/05/2011 07:15:50 AM
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Yes, just character *NM*
- 07/05/2011 02:22:50 PM
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Ah, that's probably better.
- 07/05/2011 06:46:03 PM
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Well, if DK is RBIRL,
- 07/05/2011 08:06:04 PM
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I could
- 08/05/2011 07:06:44 PM
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Would you mind coding it beforehand?
- 08/05/2011 08:59:16 PM
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I agree. A code would be ideal here.
- 08/05/2011 10:14:54 PM
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Good idea. OK, here it is.
- 09/05/2011 12:28:08 AM
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When you say you "don't like doing codes a lot", does that mean you don't want all of us to do it?
- 09/05/2011 06:30:52 PM
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Certainly, I'll enlighten as best I can.
- 07/05/2011 07:15:03 AM
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Yeah, we haven't waited for a modkill in a while. I think that's a problem we need to work on
- 07/05/2011 04:32:41 PM
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Okay, that pretty much answered all my questions
- 07/05/2011 04:44:34 PM
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Le Sigh
- 10/05/2011 01:48:19 AM
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Re: Le Sigh
- 10/05/2011 04:03:47 AM
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Everybody in Greek myth is drenched in blood.
- 10/05/2011 04:24:14 AM
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And we don't really have a clue what we're looking for in the scum either.
- 10/05/2011 06:45:09 PM
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OK, and my decryption:
- 10/05/2011 05:42:32 AM
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Code checks, let's go ahead an audit them
- 10/05/2011 07:22:36 AM
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Eh... I'm open to pursuing other avenues, as long as we don't rule out DK
- 11/05/2011 04:09:20 AM
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Re: Eh... I'm open to pursuing other avenues, as long as we don't rule out DK
- 11/05/2011 04:19:55 AM
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Re: Eh... I'm open to pursuing other avenues, as long as we don't rule out DK
- 11/05/2011 05:46:49 AM
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Alexander seems a bit off-flavor, but I can see Leonidas as a possibility
- 11/05/2011 06:17:51 AM
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Re: Alexander seems a bit off-flavor, but I can see Leonidas as a possibility
- 11/05/2011 07:04:08 PM
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I've a feeling we could probably exclude the Persians
- 11/05/2011 07:20:58 PM
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You can go ahead and do that.
- 11/05/2011 09:17:11 PM
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Plus, there's the whole "well-known" thing
- 11/05/2011 10:02:14 PM
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Re: Plus, there's the whole "well-known" thing
- 11/05/2011 11:21:44 PM
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I was referring to ranagrande's "Have you heard of your character" question
- 12/05/2011 12:39:55 AM
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If you guys are going to guess what my character is, why not jsut ask me to character claim?
- 12/05/2011 02:53:17 AM
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Re: Plus, there's the whole "well-known" thing
- 12/05/2011 03:29:52 AM
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I think Troy was in Asia
- 12/05/2011 03:53:13 AM
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Yes, it's in Anatolia.
- 12/05/2011 04:50:06 AM
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So I wikipediaed it.
- 12/05/2011 05:23:37 AM
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Wow, 'historicity' is a word, I never knew that
- 12/05/2011 05:43:53 AM
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- 12/05/2011 05:43:53 AM
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Yeah, I'm not opposed, I had just always assumed the Trojans were Greeks, so I was surprised.
- 12/05/2011 05:54:24 AM
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Re: Eh... I'm open to pursuing other avenues, as long as we don't rule out DK
- 11/05/2011 09:16:11 PM
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I actually believe Katie.
- 11/05/2011 01:11:17 AM
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I think most of us do, but I don't think you've contemplated the facts thoroughly
- 11/05/2011 03:53:30 AM
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So...
- 11/05/2011 03:11:35 AM
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Re: So...
- 11/05/2011 03:51:57 AM
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Wait, we have that?
- 11/05/2011 04:44:10 AM
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- 11/05/2011 05:13:50 AM
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- 11/05/2011 05:13:50 AM
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Yea, I tend to skim when your posts get too long, unless their life-or-death, so to speak. *NM*
- 11/05/2011 06:45:07 AM
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One might note that when they get 'too long', there's generally a reason they did
- 11/05/2011 06:57:38 PM
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One might note that when they get 'too long', there's generally a reason they did
- 11/05/2011 06:57:38 PM
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Yes, but sometimes that reason is that you want to bury suspicions in a wall of text
. *NM*
- 11/05/2011 11:20:01 PM
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. *NM*
- 11/05/2011 11:20:01 PM
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Probably not
- 11/05/2011 11:56:11 PM
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I'm not going to lie, I'm trying to decide of you are serious or not.
- 11/05/2011 05:36:59 AM
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My character claim.
- 12/05/2011 02:27:03 PM
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Good job at making yourself incredibly suspicious
- 12/05/2011 03:24:18 PM
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BUM BUM BUMMMMMMMMMMMMM
- 12/05/2011 04:17:51 PM
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Yeah, that probably requires some explaining away
- 12/05/2011 09:13:39 PM
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Not true this time.
- 12/05/2011 11:27:55 PM
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Re: Not true this time.
- 12/05/2011 11:57:58 PM
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Re: Not true this time.
- 13/05/2011 12:01:46 AM
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Pretty much that you're wrong
- 13/05/2011 01:14:28 AM
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I am wrong, judging by Hobo's post
- 13/05/2011 01:24:38 AM
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I admit this is possible, but...
- 13/05/2011 01:36:28 AM
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Re: I admit this is possible, but...
- 13/05/2011 01:46:51 AM
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2 things about that.
- 12/05/2011 11:26:14 PM
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This is an easy misunderstanding.
- 13/05/2011 12:24:52 AM
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Actually, can we get a quick headcount?
- 15/05/2011 12:10:11 AM
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Yo.
- 15/05/2011 01:15:05 AM
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We seem to have reached an impasse
- 17/05/2011 01:07:29 PM
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Option Pick (Table)
- 17/05/2011 11:13:07 PM
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Yeah, I'm not specially fond of roleclaiming this early in the game.
- 18/05/2011 01:51:36 AM
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Okay Fox, it looks like it's gonna be you
- 19/05/2011 03:32:47 AM
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I guess that's plausible
- 19/05/2011 06:02:21 AM
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Re: I guess that's plausible
- 19/05/2011 06:19:57 AM
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It is a strategy that is most valuable the earlier you use it though.
- 19/05/2011 06:39:29 AM
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I say don't RC yet. Wait for us to discuss my claim and where to go from here. *NM*
- 19/05/2011 03:35:49 PM
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Okay, cop claim in play, so what do we want to do?
- 19/05/2011 06:01:55 AM
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Even if he has been outed as the cop
- 19/05/2011 06:24:31 AM
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Hm. The roleblocker is a pretty big thing. If one of us is cop though, come foward
- 19/05/2011 06:54:30 AM
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It also ties up their roleblocker though.
- 19/05/2011 06:56:29 AM
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The one thing that makes me slightly suspect the claim
- 19/05/2011 12:49:38 PM
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Nevermind
- 19/05/2011 12:51:44 PM
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Anyway, you would think that because of my previously flub ups, I'd learn.
- 19/05/2011 03:43:09 PM
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"Because I've demonstrated a penchant for making mistakes, obviously this time is for real."
- 19/05/2011 06:21:17 PM
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- 19/05/2011 06:21:17 PM
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OK then, I'll RC
- 20/05/2011 07:23:07 PM
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Makes sense to me.
- 22/05/2011 05:43:56 PM
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I'm the cop.
- 22/05/2011 09:50:11 PM
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Well this was easier than expected.
- 22/05/2011 10:24:52 PM
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Wow, yeah. Wtf is this? Vote: Darth Katie. *NM*
- 23/05/2011 12:15:14 AM
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Hmm...
- 23/05/2011 01:42:32 AM
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We can make an argument to lynch her purely off the "lynch all liars" rule as F-T said.
- 23/05/2011 02:10:11 AM
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*Hits self in the face repeatedly*
- 23/05/2011 09:19:40 AM
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Did I mention I didn't get a lot of sleep last night?
- 23/05/2011 09:25:15 AM
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I can believe that at least
- 23/05/2011 10:29:12 AM
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- 23/05/2011 10:29:12 AM
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Oh please
- 23/05/2011 02:35:28 PM
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This would all be more believable
- 23/05/2011 03:32:31 PM
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I didn't remember that about Option B
- 23/05/2011 03:52:11 PM
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I will *Unvote* for now
- 23/05/2011 05:42:22 PM
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You don't approve of a doctor that can protect himself?
- 23/05/2011 11:23:58 PM
1182 Views
Yeah, this is what I expected the other plausible screw-up to be.
- 23/05/2011 07:10:46 PM
1143 Views
So... Fox and DK have both claimed cop?
- 23/05/2011 02:34:30 AM
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Well, now the switch around to a Doc claim.
- 23/05/2011 03:56:48 PM
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He's Beloved though (if he's not scum)
- 23/05/2011 04:07:06 PM
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Yeah, this whole thing didn't really work out too well
- 23/05/2011 04:38:30 PM
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It's been an unmitigated disaster
- 23/05/2011 06:01:23 PM
1139 Views
So, uh... Wow.
- 23/05/2011 07:38:36 PM
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Before this Mass RC idea takes hold...
- 23/05/2011 07:59:18 PM
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All right...
- 23/05/2011 08:29:28 PM
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Possibly
- 23/05/2011 08:51:52 PM
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Was it Kronin or Gher that did the whole "everyone is a robot with a Backup Role" game?
- 23/05/2011 11:28:05 PM
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I want to start off by saying that I believe DK.
- 23/05/2011 08:21:26 PM
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Re: I want to start off by saying that I believe DK.
- 23/05/2011 08:41:10 PM
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Another point against Isaac:
- 23/05/2011 11:32:14 PM
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Actually, I didn't suspect either you or DK, you brought that up
- 23/05/2011 11:54:19 PM
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Re: Actually, I didn't suspect either you or DK, you brought that up
- 24/05/2011 12:28:24 AM
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So, seeing no objections to the mass character claim, let's start!
- 26/05/2011 01:16:36 AM
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Character Claims (table)
- 26/05/2011 02:48:44 AM
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Okay here goes.
- 26/05/2011 09:32:59 PM
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I'm Zeno. *NM*
- 27/05/2011 01:40:47 AM
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How paradoxical... I actually thought Xena for a moment
- 27/05/2011 03:08:57 AM
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I guess Xena is close, though it might take a while to get from there to Zeno.
- 27/05/2011 05:55:32 AM
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All right
- 28/05/2011 10:33:48 PM
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Re: All right
- 29/05/2011 12:42:12 AM
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Re: All right
- 31/05/2011 07:09:31 AM
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Heh, looks like I'm holding out for no particular reason.
- 30/05/2011 07:11:21 PM
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Kronin, what are we doing about Scott's continued absence?
- 29/05/2011 11:38:52 PM
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Yeah, I've been waiting on Scott's situation to resolve before doing anything
- 30/05/2011 02:04:07 AM
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Vote: Scott Blademaster
- 30/05/2011 10:23:50 PM
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While I generally agree with your reasoning...
- 31/05/2011 12:10:35 AM
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I was actually thinking along extremely similar lines before we started doing character claims.
- 31/05/2011 12:28:44 AM
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Re: I was actually thinking along extremely similar lines before we started doing character claims.
- 31/05/2011 01:28:49 AM
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I believe the point of Socrates trial was that he was falsely accused
- 31/05/2011 01:08:26 AM
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Re: I believe the point of Socrates trial was that he was falsely accused
- 31/05/2011 01:35:31 AM
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Re: I believe the point of Socrates trial was that he was falsely accused
- 31/05/2011 03:28:20 AM
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Meh, I'm not exactly averse to lynching Scott...
- 31/05/2011 05:25:14 AM
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So, the way I see it, we have two (well, three) options for our lynch
- 31/05/2011 04:02:14 PM
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I'm a bit confused at the moment.
- 31/05/2011 06:27:26 PM
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Obviously, I would be against lynching me.
- 31/05/2011 07:41:15 PM
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I think DK and Fox are telling the truth, simply because we've had no contradictions
- 31/05/2011 10:11:32 PM
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Re: I think DK and Fox are telling the truth, simply because we've had no contradictions
- 01/06/2011 12:37:36 AM
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Re: I think DK and Fox are telling the truth, simply because we've had no contradictions
- 01/06/2011 09:27:32 PM
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Re: So, the way I see it, we have two (well, three) options for our lynch
- 31/05/2011 08:13:17 PM
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Responses!
- 31/05/2011 10:41:38 PM
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Re: Responses!
- 01/06/2011 02:32:22 AM
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That is an awful lot of talking to refute me
- 01/06/2011 04:41:13 AM
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I could go find my mallet again if brevity is desired, glad you've acknowledged I refuted you though
- 01/06/2011 05:18:46 AM
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About ?
- 01/06/2011 09:41:44 PM
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Huh, that was way more revealing than expected
- 01/06/2011 10:30:55 PM
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It IS pretty hard to say "Oh, well he's a new player" at this point *NM*
- 02/06/2011 12:40:32 AM
649 Views
Kronin actually hasn't answered my question about last Night yet.
- 02/06/2011 03:17:05 AM
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Well, I do sincerely doubt a philosopher's ring is in play
- 31/05/2011 10:39:41 PM
1230 Views
Ohhhh! You know, I looked up a bunch of famous Spartans on Wikipedia when I read that
- 31/05/2011 10:44:05 PM
1234 Views
I'm decently suspicious of ranagrande.
- 01/06/2011 03:55:26 PM
1273 Views
True- as long as DK protects you, you've got at least one more night
- 01/06/2011 06:47:36 PM
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Re: True- as long as DK protects you, you've got at least one more night
- 01/06/2011 08:36:40 PM
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Hey, sorry all.
- 02/06/2011 04:45:45 AM
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No questions in particular
- 02/06/2011 05:10:52 AM
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Thoughts
- 02/06/2011 05:09:37 AM
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So couple of things:
- 02/06/2011 09:05:16 AM
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Well, basically DK's "Thoughts" post sums up my thoughts pretty well.
- 03/06/2011 01:34:52 AM
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Yeah, he seems to be prime suspect.
- 03/06/2011 12:48:30 PM
1190 Views
I will also Vote: ?
- 04/06/2011 01:56:32 AM
1160 Views
Hold off now everyone. We don't want him accidentally lynched. *NM*
- 04/06/2011 03:14:43 AM
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Re: Hold off now everyone. We don't want him accidentally lynched.
- 04/06/2011 12:18:53 PM
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Re: Hold off now everyone. We don't want him accidentally lynched.
- 04/06/2011 02:28:49 PM
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So, our titular rolling ball seems to be headed straight at ?. ?, do you have any thoughts? *NM*
- 03/06/2011 02:53:37 AM
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I am ?'s Mason Partner.
- 04/06/2011 06:44:26 PM
1239 Views
I am itching to vote for him right now.
- 04/06/2011 07:01:34 PM
1142 Views
That's true. Not only did he prematurely roleclaim, he prematurely FALSELY roleclaimed *NM*
- 04/06/2011 09:06:22 PM
678 Views
In my opinion that doesn't help him at all.
- 04/06/2011 07:41:00 PM
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I don't think there's much point in waiting on ? anymore
- 04/06/2011 09:31:26 PM
1237 Views
I do agree...BUUUUTTTT
- 04/06/2011 09:58:09 PM
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Vote: ?
- 05/06/2011 12:56:57 AM
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I WOULD like to hear what ? has to say... but he's certainly taking his sweet time
- 05/06/2011 01:19:42 AM
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Twilight
- 05/06/2011 08:42:02 PM
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Re: Twilight
- 05/06/2011 09:13:07 PM
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Scott, being dead, was not included in the VNTL. *NM*
- 05/06/2011 10:26:22 PM
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I think he meant 'what was Scott?' *NM*
- 06/06/2011 12:27:07 AM
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I suppose this place is as good as any to say, Happy Birthday Gher! *NM*
- 06/06/2011 08:26:56 PM
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*NM*