Do you want to lynch him because he's only posted once, or have you gleaned something out of these poetry stats?
I did, I think. It's now pretty obvious that in all likelihood only four of us wrote poems, you, me, and FT, and either Hieshyn wrote the fourth or someone is lying... or of course I misread the table like I failed to see Stephen's reply... back when I thought Stephen hadn't replied either or was hesitant to, rather than tossing his out freely and just remarking that he didn't expect much to come of it, it was reasonable for me to wonder if maybe FT, poem writer and guy who could have copped Stephen, might be up to something with him but now all arrows point at Hieshyn or yourself, or both of you.
Why was he so reluctant to say his own that he made his only post for the day, besides a NM about being a judge, to say we shouldn't do it and had more important things to do, when we weren't exactly hip deep in options? Logical conclusion, to me, is that he wrote a poem and is now nervous how it might be seen. Then there's yourself. You only got two poems, everybody else seems to have gotten everyone but their own. You didn't know that when you said it since only I'd given a number, but in your defense you were open about it. My own conclusion from that, barring simple error or unguessable weirdness, is that you couldn't be allowed to see one of them. The obvious being that through mason or scum bond or something akin you might know #3's writer and be inclined to vote for theirs. None of this strongly indicates guilt and for a number of reasons but I view them as leads worth following. So here's my question for you. I want to be cautious here, everyone but you, and possibly Hieshyn, have seen all the poems. And I ask them to review them but not to speak of them yet. I think you saw my and FT's poems. There's one that mentions fire, one wood, one people, and one majesty - that last is mine. I want to know which you wrote and which you saw, and I'd like you verify each with another significant word unique to the poem or any word by indicating position or anything else appropriately uniquely identifying, e.g. not 'the'. One word or whatever for each poem you saw, and by preference which was yours, though I mostly want to know which you didn't see and I can only know for sure, or semi-sure, if you prove you saw the other three.
Now I want to emphasize this isn't an accusation, I've got a laundry list of possibly non-sinister ways this could occur, depending on the 'this' which is the case. But as I said, and I think people will agree when they review the poems, that one obviously stands out as an 'abnormal submission' given the flavor of the game.
Also, any thoughts on my post below? I was sort of hoping it would spark some conversation, but...
It was noteworthy but not yet solid enough to draw much from at this time, and I had my own lead and figured others would be better suited to see any obvious leads on it I was too distracted to catch.
The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift.
- Albert Einstein
King of Cairhien 20-7-2
Chancellor of the Landsraad, Archduke of Is'Mod
- Albert Einstein
King of Cairhien 20-7-2
Chancellor of the Landsraad, Archduke of Is'Mod
Mafia XXV: Day 2
29/01/2012 04:30:46 PM
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Poetry Contest Round 2: Acrostic
29/01/2012 04:35:41 PM
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Acrostic? *NM*
29/01/2012 08:00:23 PM
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The first letter of each line makes either a word or phrase. *NM*
29/01/2012 11:31:56 PM
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So are Praz and White Flame still around? Can they talk? *NM*
30/01/2012 12:47:08 AM
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Yep
30/01/2012 02:20:09 PM
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Do you get a vote? *NM*
30/01/2012 02:27:26 PM
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Re: Do you get a vote?
30/01/2012 07:27:19 PM
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I seem to recall that you can purchase obligators with Atium.
30/01/2012 10:53:36 PM
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AFAIK, I'm still here and good to go.
30/01/2012 10:14:11 PM
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No night messages or anything? I guess that's to be expected
31/01/2012 03:48:58 AM
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I suppose this won't hurt to say: I was a judge of the poetry contest.
31/01/2012 04:18:42 AM
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Judged as well- sounds like most if not all of us did
01/02/2012 01:53:36 PM
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Actually I think we should get a list of everyone who entered or didn't
01/02/2012 03:27:36 PM
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****Follow up**** (Table)
02/02/2012 04:24:30 PM
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I'm just going to say I highly doubt the contest has anything to do with anything.
03/02/2012 12:29:32 AM
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Hieshyn, Stephen, I'd really like your answers on this
04/02/2012 08:14:10 PM
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I gave my response
05/02/2012 04:59:28 PM
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D'oh! Sorry, Vote: Hieshyn
05/02/2012 05:01:26 PM
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You want to lynch him?
05/02/2012 06:55:12 PM
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If he doesn't answer up, but we may as well move on
05/02/2012 07:50:02 PM
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Hm, ok
06/02/2012 01:21:00 AM
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Okay
06/02/2012 02:07:01 AM
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Re: Okay
06/02/2012 03:32:36 AM
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the 3 was a mistake
06/02/2012 06:12:48 PM
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We need you to verify all 4 then
06/02/2012 08:35:18 PM
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Re: We need you to verify all 4 then
06/02/2012 11:25:34 PM
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Re: We need you to verify all 4 then
07/02/2012 04:03:57 AM
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Re: We need you to verify all 4 then
07/02/2012 08:03:40 PM
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Thanks, one was enough
07/02/2012 09:43:41 PM
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Day 2 Auctions
05/02/2012 10:37:13 PM
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Iron Mine: .1 *NM*
06/02/2012 02:00:12 PM
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Mine .2 *NM*
06/02/2012 03:20:35 PM
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Mine 0.4 *NM*
12/02/2012 04:55:22 AM
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Mine 0.5 *NM*
13/02/2012 08:45:51 PM
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Mine 0.81 *NM*
13/02/2012 09:13:56 PM
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Mine 0.9 *NM*
13/02/2012 09:14:49 PM
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Mine 1.17 *NM*
13/02/2012 10:09:52 PM
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Mine 1.2 *NM*
14/02/2012 01:17:36 AM
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Mine 1.26 *NM*
14/02/2012 01:37:51 AM
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Mine 1.3 *NM*
14/02/2012 03:04:09 AM
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Mine 1.4 *NM*
14/02/2012 04:00:17 AM
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Mine 1.5 *NM*
14/02/2012 04:07:58 AM
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Mine 1.8 *NM*
14/02/2012 05:31:38 AM
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Mine: 2.0 *NM*
14/02/2012 05:34:49 AM
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Shop: .1 *NM*
06/02/2012 02:00:55 PM
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Shop: .28 *NM*
06/02/2012 10:38:55 PM
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Shop .4
07/02/2012 04:16:55 PM
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Shop .45 *NM*
09/02/2012 05:15:34 AM
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Shop .5 *NM*
09/02/2012 01:33:29 PM
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Shop .7 *NM*
09/02/2012 02:12:49 PM
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Shop .8 --> I want my freedom =( *NM*
09/02/2012 02:42:27 PM
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Shop .91 *NM*
11/02/2012 09:33:23 PM
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Shop 1.0 *NM*
11/02/2012 10:27:12 PM
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Re: Shop 1.01 *NM*
14/02/2012 01:03:41 AM
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Shop 1.1 *NM*
14/02/2012 01:45:47 AM
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Shop 1.2 *NM*
14/02/2012 04:01:05 AM
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Shop 1.22 *NM*
14/02/2012 04:18:09 AM
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Shop 1.53 *NM*
14/02/2012 05:37:35 AM
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Shop 1.6 *NM*
14/02/2012 02:27:54 PM
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Shop 1.62 *NM*
14/02/2012 06:27:18 PM
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Shop 2.3 *NM*
16/02/2012 12:21:01 AM
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Shop 2.31 *NM*
18/02/2012 05:15:53 PM
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Shop 2.56578443992021083401 *NM*
19/02/2012 03:44:52 AM
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Shop 2.56578443992021083402
19/02/2012 05:38:55 AM
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Slave: .1 *NM*
06/02/2012 02:01:26 PM
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Slave .3 *NM*
06/02/2012 03:21:08 PM
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Slave .35 *NM*
06/02/2012 10:38:31 PM
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Slave .5 *NM*
06/02/2012 10:42:16 PM
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Slave .81 *NM*
07/02/2012 12:19:48 AM
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Well, now you're just being a jerk
. Slave: 1 *NM*
07/02/2012 08:42:16 PM
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Slave: 1.15 *NM*
09/02/2012 02:35:32 PM
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Slave: 1.3 *NM*
11/02/2012 05:42:33 PM
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Slave: 1.4 *NM*
14/02/2012 03:03:53 AM
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Slave: 1.5 *NM*
14/02/2012 03:57:59 AM
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Slave: 1.6 *NM*
14/02/2012 04:07:33 AM
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Slave: 1.75 *NM*
14/02/2012 05:35:34 AM
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Slave: 2.0 *NM*
14/02/2012 05:36:14 AM
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I think we're hammered *NM*
14/02/2012 05:40:36 AM
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Slave: 2.1 *NM*
14/02/2012 02:28:24 PM
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Slave: 2.2 *NM*
14/02/2012 04:51:40 PM
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Slave: 2.3 I'm curious about those extra actions, dammit! *NM*
14/02/2012 07:53:03 PM
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Slave 2.4... what extra actions?
15/02/2012 12:38:36 AM
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Slave 2.5 well, "other potential effects," then
15/02/2012 03:50:54 AM
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Slave: 2.51
21/02/2012 11:18:02 PM
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Slave: 2.6- don't you want to be slave-buddies?
24/02/2012 04:30:54 PM
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Slave: 2.7 you have no idea how ironic that is
*NM*
02/03/2012 02:50:25 AM
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Slave: 2.8 the only way I'll know is with a slave! *NM*
03/03/2012 12:29:47 AM
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Slave: 2.9 but I think Stephen already hammered
*NM*
03/03/2012 12:31:13 AM
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Slave: 3.0 yeah, I'm on my phone, so I bid before seeing. And am bidding now just in case! *NM*
03/03/2012 02:41:31 AM
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Tin Misting: .1 *NM*
06/02/2012 02:02:48 PM
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Tin Misting: .2 *NM*
09/02/2012 04:36:38 AM
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Tin Misting: .201 *NM*
13/02/2012 09:16:03 PM
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Re: Tin Misting: .202 *NM*
14/02/2012 01:04:35 AM
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Tin Misting: .4 *NM*
14/02/2012 03:58:52 AM
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Yes, I will. Tin Misting : .5 *NM*
14/02/2012 04:15:15 AM
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Tin Misting : .7 *NM*
14/02/2012 02:28:47 PM
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Tin Misting : .8 *NM*
14/02/2012 02:43:32 PM
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Tin Misting : .9 *NM*
14/02/2012 07:53:48 PM
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Tin Misting : .91 *NM*
18/02/2012 05:14:15 PM
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Tin Misting : .95 *NM*
24/02/2012 04:31:03 PM
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No posts and no beer make beetnemesis something something
10/02/2012 03:07:53 PM
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I'd have no problem - at all - with lynching Hieshyn.
10/02/2012 06:55:30 PM
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I say we go for it
11/02/2012 04:57:52 PM
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I expect him to get modkilled for inactivity.
11/02/2012 06:18:41 PM
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Okay I guess I might as well say what I did last night...
10/02/2012 08:14:46 PM
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Re: Okay I guess I might as well say what I did last night...
11/02/2012 01:57:48 PM
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It doesn't implicate anyone...
11/02/2012 06:05:36 PM
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Hmm
11/02/2012 06:22:31 PM
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Erm... what is this about?
11/02/2012 06:24:42 PM
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Nothing was happening...we needed information...
11/02/2012 10:36:21 PM
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Hmm.
12/02/2012 03:04:00 AM
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I didn't get anything
12/02/2012 04:54:53 AM
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So neither of you got any flavour text regarding your night action/being targeted by a night action?
12/02/2012 05:38:53 AM
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I got nothing.
12/02/2012 05:43:52 AM
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^^OK yeah, so
13/02/2012 02:18:41 AM
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Re: ^^OK yeah, so
13/02/2012 02:48:09 AM
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Hah, I think it's funny that we didn't confirm until right now who was NK'd
13/02/2012 03:49:30 AM
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I'd actually assumed this was the meaning.
13/02/2012 05:15:41 AM
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But I soothed him into inactivity.
13/02/2012 08:42:51 PM
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Right
13/02/2012 09:13:21 PM
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ooh so you were roleblocked AND nightkilled? *NM*
14/02/2012 09:14:07 PM
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Mob justice or get off the pot
13/02/2012 02:18:57 PM
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Re: Mob justice or get off the pot
14/02/2012 01:47:36 AM
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Cool. Vote: Hieshyn *NM*
14/02/2012 03:54:36 AM
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Hmmm. . . . .
14/02/2012 05:16:41 AM
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This kinda sums up the impression i"m getting reading through these.
14/02/2012 09:43:13 PM
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Re: This kinda sums up the impression i"m getting reading through these.
14/02/2012 10:14:04 PM
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Votes?
14/02/2012 05:45:22 AM
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Technically, that's only 4 real votes, unless some people have extras. *NM*
14/02/2012 05:46:43 AM
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Sorry, my real life was incredibly busy
14/02/2012 09:29:53 PM
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Unvote: Hieshyn... now we get to track down who was lying
15/02/2012 12:34:25 AM
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That's pretty useless...
15/02/2012 01:36:14 AM
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OK so I'm guessing you want me to encode shit
16/02/2012 12:19:22 AM
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Nope, no encoding. I'll explain:
16/02/2012 01:17:58 AM
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Wound, Luthadel, Mistborn, wood *NM*
17/02/2012 11:51:56 PM
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Heh, everybody uses 'Wood'
19/02/2012 05:11:57 AM
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How much trouble would I be in if all the poems were here in full?
19/02/2012 11:01:24 PM
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Probably only for modquoting, I think.
20/02/2012 05:11:51 AM
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Sorry I disappeared for a bit there and am still semi-RBIRL
21/02/2012 04:24:32 AM
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I explicitly said during Day 1 I have never read the series
21/02/2012 06:43:49 PM
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So I suppose what I'm trying to say
21/02/2012 07:37:18 PM
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Ha, let's lynch Stephen
21/02/2012 10:43:11 PM
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I don't know
21/02/2012 11:11:58 PM
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No reason for what now?
22/02/2012 11:39:27 PM
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As for this...
23/02/2012 10:05:52 AM
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Just because F-T says he isn't guilty doesn't mean he isn't
22/02/2012 11:53:07 PM
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Yes, this has been brought up
23/02/2012 09:18:00 AM
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Upon reading the poems initially...
23/02/2012 03:00:11 PM
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Re: Upon reading the poems initially...
23/02/2012 03:07:46 PM
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If it was written by scum, I doubt they knew that everyone would get to read it.
23/02/2012 05:35:07 PM
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If it was written by scum, I doubt they knew that everyone would get to read it.
23/02/2012 05:35:09 PM
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Re: Upon reading the poems initially...
23/02/2012 06:06:29 PM
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At this pointit seems unlikely, since theylied about it.
23/02/2012 06:40:34 PM
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True.
23/02/2012 11:02:24 PM
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That's possible, in which case I still think he's scum. Just not lynchable scum
.
24/02/2012 02:39:44 AM
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Hey Lord Ruler
21/02/2012 07:14:01 PM
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Ya know, I'm probably going to regret suggesting this but...
23/02/2012 07:03:59 PM
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What exactly do we have to gain from a no-lynch?
23/02/2012 08:32:31 PM
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Mostly just an end to the day
23/02/2012 09:42:18 PM
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You raise an intriguing question.
24/02/2012 02:46:57 AM
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Re: You raise an intriguing question.
24/02/2012 10:26:21 AM
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Re: You raise an intriguing question.
24/02/2012 12:27:01 PM
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Re: You raise an intriguing question.
24/02/2012 08:06:49 PM
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Re: You raise an intriguing question.
24/02/2012 08:16:28 PM
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... *NM*
25/02/2012 02:05:00 AM
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Vote: ? *NM*
26/02/2012 07:52:49 PM
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You are trying to vote for yourself? *NM*
26/02/2012 09:44:09 PM
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Yes. I was bored. No one had posted in a long time. Thus. Sorry. *NM*
26/02/2012 09:50:25 PM
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Right, get a move on people.
28/02/2012 08:22:51 AM
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I don't think we can re-lynch White Flame, can we? *NM*
28/02/2012 03:04:41 PM
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No new ideas so let's lynch the guy who was quiet for two weeks and came back with a vengence
02/03/2012 12:47:55 AM
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I'm sorry.
02/03/2012 01:53:03 AM
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This is exactly the problem I have with Mafia in general (OOC)
02/03/2012 02:06:17 AM
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At my count (Votes)
02/03/2012 02:13:56 AM
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Oh, and Fox and Ravens voted for Whiteflame *NM*
02/03/2012 02:14:59 AM
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Can you make a case on anyone else?
02/03/2012 03:36:28 AM
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Vote: Hieshyn
02/03/2012 06:50:08 PM
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You're still not dead, Yuna unvoted you an hour ago
02/03/2012 07:18:50 PM
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son of a bitch i never get to hammer
*NM*
03/03/2012 12:31:10 AM
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Well, to save time since you're not really dead-dead, town or scum? *NM*
03/03/2012 12:32:04 AM
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Day 2 has ended.
05/03/2012 10:30:17 PM
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New job?
06/03/2012 12:08:53 AM
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So am I now dead-dead in this deathless game of mafia? *NM*
08/03/2012 12:58:57 AM
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That's the same PM WF got, he's still in, you probably will be too *NM*
08/03/2012 05:33:25 AM
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I'm thinking about calling this one, either way though I'm out.
02/04/2012 01:26:30 AM
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Yeah, i've been tempted to say I'm out for a while too.
03/04/2012 02:01:52 AM
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My friend just got a programming job in which the whole company plays Diplomacy
03/04/2012 02:17:41 AM
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Re: My friend just got a programming job in which the whole company plays Diplomacy
03/04/2012 03:34:47 AM
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Yeah, I only have the barest hints, but I got the impression that it could be done online *NM*
03/04/2012 02:44:41 PM
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If rana doesn't think a backup mod would work, then...
03/04/2012 02:18:51 AM
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Yeah
03/04/2012 04:41:08 AM
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Me too.
03/04/2012 06:39:40 AM
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Heh
05/04/2012 01:28:24 AM
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Looks good, but I can't fully judge without knowing the lore behind it
.
05/04/2012 07:05:08 AM
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me too, its allright to post it now? *NM*
05/04/2012 08:19:25 PM
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Yeah, I mean it's not like you're gonna get modkilled, right? *NM*
05/04/2012 08:54:48 PM
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Yeah...
08/04/2012 04:49:10 AM
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For the record, I was scum
09/04/2012 03:33:12 PM
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Re: For the record, I was scum
10/04/2012 04:19:20 AM
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