It looks like Isaac is going to be lynched, and I suppose I'm ok with that, but there are things here that don't add up. Most notably, Stephen's coded roleclaim... it contains nothing relevant, other than the name.
I know with certainty you don't by into the mystique about how cunning and manipulative I am, you've seen me in action as a partner scum too much. If this were just one error by Stephen then yes, it would be reasonable to think I might be out there driving in wedges to exaggerate it left and right. You should also be able to see that if it were anyone but me on the receiving end Stephen would be L-1 right now, not me. He was the last to code claim with the highly dubious 'I forgot', yet that doesn't make sense. A role should have been anxious to code claim especially with all the safety net I draped around lengthy responses. By the time he claimed, after I'd said my ulterior for the day was outing possible scum by seeing who passed on the 'Also', he had every reason to believe he could and should work his RC, no matter how long, into his code and could do so without repercussion.
Yet he opted not to, he chose to give a long padding text anyway, which could have been used for RC as easily, and left a giant black hole instead. On a complex role that screams 'scummer safe claim' he choses not to detail it when he could do so and be above suspicion and instead does it after accusing me when we demand to know why his apparent cop claim is full of holes.
Seriously he forgot? It was the first thing we did, within 48 hours of the game starting everyone else had there's up and he forgot? And he didn't read anything up about how it was best for role and non-role alike to have an 'also' even if it was really just 'randomnonsensebeingencodedforkicks'?
And the final claim... that's not how people do it. Sure, maybe right out the gate, top of the morning, "I copped him guilty" but you know how it should have been done.
Day 1: Encode role with details
Day 2: On a guilty, if you decide to move, do it in force, full claim and decode... unless you're seeking to draw out a desperate counter-claim... but you'd never do that without hard evidence of you own, like a coded claim.
Think about how anti-town what he did was. He's not the cop, he couldn't know we didn't have one, there's was an absurdly strong and transparent chance he'd out the real cop and seal his death warrant in one swoop by claiming to have copped me. That's not how an experienced player moves, that's the oversight accident of someone who is working from a different base of priorities. It's an error, but it's the error of someone engaged in framing someone not someone working for the better part of a month considering his own real options. There is just no way a jack-of-all-trades with an OS copping isn't going to be thinking 'Ya know, we might have a normal cop or investigator who is going to be very skeptical of my claim, and speak up, and then I'm seriously dead because I never coded my claim and he probably did, and now Isaac's going to walk free while I get lynched and he knows who are cop is.' I mean, how ludicrous is that? Stephen's not a newb, Stephen's a very veteran player noted for his caution. One error? sure, sure, but the proverbial laundry list of poor judgment? Even if he's telling the unvarnished truth this one goes down as Top Ten anti-town actions.
And right now the others are seeing a murky cloud of weirdness going on and that makes them look at me, but you know me better, and you're a schemer too. I'm good, but I can't make people produce series of errors like that. All the weirdness, none of it can be of my doing. I couldn't make Stephen botch his coded RC, present a needless and risky HC, or risk killing himself and outing our cop by apparently claiming to be cop with no evidence to back it up via coded RC.
I amuse myself.
Mafia Day 2 - Early Expansion
02/07/2012 09:18:28 AM
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Also we might want to decode in whole or part
02/07/2012 12:53:30 PM
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Not in favor right now
02/07/2012 04:20:17 PM
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Hypocopping?
02/07/2012 03:42:46 PM
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Sure, why not. It's not like it would hurt us even if we gain nothing. *NM*
02/07/2012 04:40:23 PM
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Hah, I forgot about hypocopping. Sure, let's do it, I'll make a seperate post. *NM*
02/07/2012 06:04:03 PM
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So, what should we do? *NM*
04/07/2012 04:00:50 PM
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Some next steps
04/07/2012 07:46:00 PM
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About exposing the doc...
05/07/2012 05:07:14 AM
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I have a stimpack as well.
05/07/2012 12:48:16 PM
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Actually I do
05/07/2012 03:02:30 PM
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So, did anyone have anything happen to them last night? *NM*
06/07/2012 08:06:30 PM
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Well, someone probably got a message saying 'You are now Zerg'...
07/07/2012 12:10:36 AM
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I suppose I'll share what happened to me last night.
07/07/2012 07:59:43 PM
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Let me probe on that one real quick
07/07/2012 08:46:45 PM
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Yes, it is specific.
07/07/2012 09:10:39 PM
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Re: Yes, it is specific.
07/07/2012 10:10:13 PM
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It was in my original role message. *NM*
07/07/2012 10:41:11 PM
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Oh well, I'll take the bait.
08/07/2012 01:33:28 AM
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EBWOP: Oh well, I'll take the bait.
08/07/2012 01:34:22 AM
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I actually kind of expected that
08/07/2012 01:38:48 AM
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Could hear a pindrop in here...
08/07/2012 06:31:22 AM
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Yeah, I went to bed just after posting that.
08/07/2012 11:47:01 AM
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Well I've got to say your encryption is, uh, vague
08/07/2012 06:58:13 PM
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Seems pretty straight forward. Vote: Isaac *NM*
09/07/2012 12:11:03 AM
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Hmm wait...
09/07/2012 01:49:23 AM
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The Casy name thing is in the message I got from FT.
09/07/2012 10:20:49 AM
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I am not voting at this time.
09/07/2012 06:47:18 PM
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This has none of my fingerprints on it, something is clearly up and it literally can't be my doing
09/07/2012 08:59:45 PM
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Unvote for now- but I have a question below.
10/07/2012 04:38:27 AM
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Vote: Stephen
09/07/2012 11:59:46 PM
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You mean the whole thing where I have been brutally honest and told you everything.
10/07/2012 12:12:06 AM
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No, I mean the totally useless bogus encryption. *NM*
10/07/2012 12:26:26 AM
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Useless and bogus?
10/07/2012 02:04:40 PM
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The main complaint is that your code doesn't contain any role information- HOWEVER
10/07/2012 03:01:45 PM
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Isaac- you said you have a stimpack that doesn't protect against infestation?
10/07/2012 04:40:18 AM
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Not explicitly, that's why I was fishing with Ranagrande
10/07/2012 05:15:47 AM
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Oh, I see....
10/07/2012 07:10:13 AM
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Vote: Isaac (again)
10/07/2012 03:03:04 PM
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Vote: Stephen, but FOS: Beet, what heck?
10/07/2012 06:58:10 PM
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Unvote. Didn't you claim different symptoms than everyone else, though?
10/07/2012 09:18:38 PM
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Specifically I claimed a symptom that wasn't explcitly listed as one in my RM
10/07/2012 11:01:57 PM
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