Don't know, I've more or less decided we'll end up picking someone randomly or go for a no lynch, this is why I prefer games that have some visible intro or clues, gives you something to talk about, and even red herrings often produce useful info. I'm guessing there is something along these lines, but probably set to trigger later in the game. The use of MPD # was clearly deliberate, but as useful clue or red herring? Well, we'll see, Gher said it was RAFO, so it probably will not be a red herring.

We can hit the less active players, maybe make a list of a few, and demand info, but that will either force a role out or result in a vanilla claim, which will either be bogus or let the DFs narrow one more person of their NK list. Though I'm guessing I'm tonights prefered target, which ironically means I'll probably live since they'll assume a good chance the doc will protect me, especially since the doc will be assuming the cop will investigate me and won't want the investigaiton wasted... ah the joys of being public enemy #1... probably takes me of the lynch list for today, since everyone can basically wait till tomorrow with certain knowledge I'll either be dead or copped.

I'd strike Hobo off the list too, he was the first to post MPD and that's a big risk for a DF, and Hobo isn't known for being a wild risk taker, albeit it as MPD #14 in a game of 14 players it wasn't much of a risk, had it been someone with a number 4 or lower, then yes I'd have said it cleared them. My own number is midrange, high enough I could guess everyone might have MPD 1-14, but low enough I couldn't know if maybe only townies had it. HAd he been MPD 2, well, then he might not know if maybe 'mafia player designator' might mean 'mafia player, designator' i.e. you are mafia 2, your DF allies are 1, 2, 4, whatever.

Anyone after that had no real gamble to make, and I suppose is actually a little suspect. The DFs might be expected to rush to cofirm MPD, non-town usually tends to fear getting trapped and wait for some answers, then try to jump on the credibility wagon as fast as possible.

We can probably clear DK temporarily too, she was the first to confirm having an acronym and had every reason to think, considering the source, that she might be stepping into some trap of mine if she were a DF, I think she'd have waited for someone else to try the waters if she were one. None of this is anywhere near proof of innocence, but it's an indicator, and it is all we have and all we will have until we at least stick someone on the boilerplate. Whatver we go with, well, it's likely to be random or darn near, and so it will probably be a townie, I'm actually kinda leery of cutting anymore off the list, though it's easier to pick random off 10 using the timestamp, just because the DFs would probably be able to shift some of themselves off the suspect list, then the random odds are likely to be worse than flat random of all players. I feel pretty safe pulling Hobo and DK off. If we want to go with ten, we can maybe randomly generate 3 players and pair down from amongst them, pretty good odds one will be a DF. Maybe we select someone to 'ref' and exclude them, and they'd be the one who posts three times (repeating for repats if it happens), maybe select the townie MVP from last game or something for that end. We can also just throw all 14 of us on their and select 4 people, we can randomize using the last two digits of a timestamp, everyone gets a number, aplabetical, 1-14. So 1-14, 15-28, etc, 'reroll' 57-00? We can also cut lower than ten, just reroll 0's for 9 nominees, 0 and 9 for 8 players, etc. But again, the more we cut the list down, the more we leave the DFs room to wiggle one or more of their people out of it. I would insist on more than 1 selectee, I don't like the idea of randomly selecting people for guaranteed execution, if you're 1 of 3 or 4 you can still have a very good chance at defending yourself.

Well, that's my take, and I hate to say it but we should probably decide if we want to go this way and execute the plan fairly quickly if yes, I can't see anything useful popping up between now and twilight otherwise. I also don't like 'no lynch' in a game this size, because we're simply too likely to have 2 NKs, and 2 kills is way too much to risk for whatever info our roles might provide during the night. In all likelihood, it will probably be a townie lynch and 2 NKs, but at least we'll have a decent chance at getting a DF and we'll have a vote record