Perpetuates Hollywood's complete idiocy with respect to anything Russian.
Tom Send a noteboard - 07/05/2010 06:28:12 PM
Some examples of stupid rules:
1. Give characters South Slavic names (Serbian, Bulgarian etc.) instead of Russian ones. Whether it's Iron Man 2's Ivan Vanko or Rocky 4's Ivan Drago, neither name is Russian.
2. Give characters names by taking them from Russian writers. Dostoevsky, Chekhov (Star Trek) and Gogol (recurring James Bond KGB chief) and similar names are REALLY uncommon. It would be like Russians having all Americans in their movies named after famous Indian chiefs or something like that.
3. Give characters names that are otherwise historically important: Lenin, Romanov, Gorbachev. No one's named Lenin (it was a pseudonym) and the other two, while technically correct, are cheesy and overused.
4. Cast actors who don't even look remotely Russian (pretty much every major star in every movie).
5. Men must be evil, strong brutes bent on destroying America. Young women are hot KGB spies and old women are fat and stocky.
6. Incorrect accents are used (one of the worst - Pavel Chekhov from Star Trek).
7. They try to have the actors speak a few lines of Russian, which they usually botch so hideously Russian speakers have problems identifying what they were trying to say without reading the subtitles.
8. Russia itself rarely looks accurate (the older movies are worse in this respect, but several modern ones are pretty bad, too).
9. They don't even try in Cyrillic. In the Bourne movies at one point they show a passport where they just typed English but switched the keyboard to Cyrillic. The result is equivalent to someone typing "qwyozxc lzxcvugglnxv" for a Latin alphabet passport.
1. Give characters South Slavic names (Serbian, Bulgarian etc.) instead of Russian ones. Whether it's Iron Man 2's Ivan Vanko or Rocky 4's Ivan Drago, neither name is Russian.
2. Give characters names by taking them from Russian writers. Dostoevsky, Chekhov (Star Trek) and Gogol (recurring James Bond KGB chief) and similar names are REALLY uncommon. It would be like Russians having all Americans in their movies named after famous Indian chiefs or something like that.
3. Give characters names that are otherwise historically important: Lenin, Romanov, Gorbachev. No one's named Lenin (it was a pseudonym) and the other two, while technically correct, are cheesy and overused.
4. Cast actors who don't even look remotely Russian (pretty much every major star in every movie).
5. Men must be evil, strong brutes bent on destroying America. Young women are hot KGB spies and old women are fat and stocky.
6. Incorrect accents are used (one of the worst - Pavel Chekhov from Star Trek).
7. They try to have the actors speak a few lines of Russian, which they usually botch so hideously Russian speakers have problems identifying what they were trying to say without reading the subtitles.
8. Russia itself rarely looks accurate (the older movies are worse in this respect, but several modern ones are pretty bad, too).
9. They don't even try in Cyrillic. In the Bourne movies at one point they show a passport where they just typed English but switched the keyboard to Cyrillic. The result is equivalent to someone typing "qwyozxc lzxcvugglnxv" for a Latin alphabet passport.
Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.
ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius
Ummaka qinnassa nīk!
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ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius
Ummaka qinnassa nīk!
*MySmiley*
Iron Man 2 discussion thread
05/05/2010 03:29:07 PM
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Perpetuates Hollywood's complete idiocy with respect to anything Russian.
07/05/2010 06:28:12 PM
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I don't imagine I need to tell you they do the same with most other cultures. *NM*
08/05/2010 01:03:22 AM
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I know. On the other hand, as movies become more global they should improve on that.
08/05/2010 04:32:09 AM
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Why don't they just do like Team America and Durka Durka their way through the language. *NM*
09/05/2010 05:56:14 PM
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Hollywood? Her character was named and introduced in Tales of Suspense in 1964.
08/05/2010 02:18:49 AM
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Yeah, because Hollywood invented Vanko, Natasha, and Chekhov.
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08/05/2010 04:39:37 AM
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Re: Perpetuates Hollywood's complete idiocy with respect to anything Russian.
08/05/2010 11:55:57 AM
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You bring up good points about Hollywood's idiocy generally. I don't disagree.
08/05/2010 02:12:10 PM
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Re: You bring up good points about Hollywood's idiocy generally. I don't disagree.
31/05/2010 07:08:36 AM
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insert Arab or Muslim where you have Russian and then you know how i feel. *NM*
11/05/2010 05:33:04 AM
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Or insert German and replace everything else in the rant with "they are Nazis!!!!111!!!1"
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05/06/2010 02:24:26 AM
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Re: Perpetuates Hollywood's complete idiocy with respect to anything Russian.
21/05/2010 06:41:04 PM
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Stupid villains. Really, really stupid villains.
08/05/2010 05:21:45 AM
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This was the same villain pattern as Batman 2
08/05/2010 11:20:53 AM
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Batman Returns or The Dark Knight?
08/05/2010 09:20:24 PM
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Re: Stupid villains. Really, really stupid villains.
09/05/2010 04:41:49 PM
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I didn't really mind Vanko wanting Stark dead, although it was pretty silly.
09/05/2010 05:29:32 PM
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