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You're assuming too much. Aemon Send a noteboard - 25/07/2010 07:07:39 AM
The reason using your own totem and not somebody elses was important was because if someone else knew the exact weight/size/mass etc. they could recreate it in a dream, but if no one knew then you could be sure you weren't in a dream by checking if you still had your totem. That's why it was important not to let anyone touch your totem, if they did they could recreate it and you'd never know if you were in a dream or reality. In Cobb's case he can use Moll's totem because she is dead, Cobb is the only one who knows the exact size and weight except for him.


You're correct about the point of a totem; the idea is that it creates a guaranteed inconsistency for you to be able to tell if you're in a dream or not. If someone puts you in another world, you don't know if you're in reality or not. If your totem has not been re-created accurately by that person though, you will recognize the problem, and realize that you're in a dream.

This means that, yes, IF Cobb was the only other person to know what his wife's totem felt like, then he's safe. But since was his wife's, he doesn't know what's happened to it over the years. He assumes that she kept it safe, but it's possible that someone broke into their house one night to examine it. Or it's possible that after his wife died, someone examined the totem before Cobb was able to get ahold of it (perhaps they intercepted the body on the way to the morgue/hospital).

What I'm saying is, Cobb can't possibly know FOR SURE that the totem is clean, he simply assumes it is, and therein lies the danger.
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