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Robert? scalius Send a noteboard - 25/05/2011 10:04:09 PM
I may have some details wrong, but I'm pretty sure as far as Joff is concerned, Robert is his father. Joff tries to emulate Robert and wants to be like his father. Now consider how Robert treats Cersi....

Joff is just treating women like his father does. Add in the influence of Cersi's political scheming and manipulation, and you end up with one wretched Joff.
I would slave, to pave the way, to sink your ship of fools.
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GoT 1.07 "You Win or You Die" (Early viewers thread) SPOILERS imlad - 24/05/2011 01:49:47 AM 1796 Views
Re: GoT 1.07 "You Win or You Die" (Early viewers thread) SPOILERS everynametaken - 24/05/2011 03:32:57 AM 1140 Views
Yes, I kind of like Cersei as well..... trzaska2000 - 24/05/2011 04:51:38 AM 990 Views
And who turned Joffrey into that little douche? Legolas - 24/05/2011 11:15:05 PM 1241 Views
Robert? scalius - 25/05/2011 10:04:09 PM 930 Views
his mother... aragornital - 28/05/2011 02:39:40 PM 923 Views
They already are trying to blame her (in the show) nossy - 02/06/2011 02:23:08 PM 938 Views
Holy Crap was that ending perfect....."I did warn you not to trust me" - trzaska2000 - 24/05/2011 04:40:33 AM 1002 Views
Strange... This is the first episode that disappointed me A Deathwatch Guard - 30/05/2011 09:09:20 AM 943 Views
I see your point but disagree Bramhodoulos - 30/05/2011 09:20:23 AM 898 Views
I agree, those scenes were very necessary..... trzaska2000 - 30/05/2011 05:01:06 PM 753 Views
Hmhm yes and no Bramhodoulos - 30/05/2011 05:07:52 PM 860 Views
You know, GRRM likely was very supportive of the scene..... trzaska2000 - 30/05/2011 05:10:58 PM 802 Views
Maybe, but GRRM isn't God and I allow myself to have a differing opinion *NM* Bramhodoulos - 30/05/2011 05:13:14 PM 406 Views
Brothels are a way of life in this epic story and play an important role. *NM* everynametaken - 31/05/2011 02:32:25 AM 455 Views
No they don't. Chas - 31/05/2011 11:08:36 PM 837 Views
Apparently you haven't read the books because they are all over in them. *NM* everynametaken - 31/05/2011 11:45:58 PM 384 Views
Afer reading your profile, you did read the books, but missed all the brothels in them. *NM* everynametaken - 31/05/2011 11:47:51 PM 419 Views
I recall the brothels Chas - 01/06/2011 12:56:32 AM 961 Views
It's HBO, it's GRRM, what do you expect? trzaska2000 - 01/06/2011 01:31:51 AM 785 Views
HBO has made some fantastic shows. Chas - 01/06/2011 10:39:44 PM 802 Views
The stuff Littlefinger said was really important and needed to be in there. Darth_Katie - 04/06/2011 07:13:41 PM 848 Views
Question about Tywin/the books.....SPOILERS trzaska2000 - 30/05/2011 05:03:40 PM 813 Views
What I remember from the books.....SPOILERS Bramhodoulos - 30/05/2011 05:11:27 PM 806 Views
Re: Question about Tywin/the books.....SPOILERS Chas - 31/05/2011 11:15:37 PM 837 Views
Agreed! Another awesome epside! ironclad - 30/05/2011 10:04:59 PM 1075 Views
One other thing to think/worry about..... trzaska2000 - 30/05/2011 11:04:47 PM 891 Views
You can't stay away from spoilers, can you? ironclad - 30/05/2011 11:59:39 PM 844 Views
Re: You can't stay away from spoilers, can you? dacole - 31/05/2011 05:49:33 AM 776 Views
There will be lots of white-walker stuff in season 3 (spoilers in case you don't get it) Bramhodoulos - 31/05/2011 08:54:13 AM 997 Views
You make an interesting point *future spoilers* ironclad - 31/05/2011 10:47:29 AM 945 Views
Re: You make an interesting point *future spoilers* imlad - 31/05/2011 01:21:06 PM 850 Views
Wow, that would be a bitching ending..... trzaska2000 - 31/05/2011 04:29:49 PM 786 Views
If imlad is right, I am pretty sure.. ironclad - 31/05/2011 04:38:32 PM 808 Views
heh? everynametaken - 31/05/2011 11:50:10 PM 886 Views
I figure there is a way out of that imlad - 01/06/2011 12:01:08 PM 735 Views
Re: heh? Chas - 01/06/2011 10:41:47 PM 768 Views
Re: You make an interesting point *future spoilers* dacole - 01/06/2011 02:50:26 AM 965 Views
Yup, love my spoilers! trzaska2000 - 31/05/2011 04:25:34 PM 715 Views
I've been thinking about that nossy - 02/06/2011 02:33:30 PM 836 Views
The problem I have with it is the heavy handedness of some scenes snoopcester - 31/05/2011 12:14:13 PM 852 Views
Is that because you know the books/story..... trzaska2000 - 31/05/2011 04:27:38 PM 784 Views
It might be snoopcester - 31/05/2011 04:37:03 PM 880 Views
Agreed, and this is probably the cause, at least in part, of a lot of my complaints above A Deathwatch Guard - 31/05/2011 07:17:34 PM 816 Views
Re: Agreed, and this is probably the cause, at least in part, of a lot of my complaints above snoopcester - 31/05/2011 08:58:44 PM 760 Views
What did Littlefinger do in the book.....how did the final scene of the episode go down? trzaska2000 - 31/05/2011 09:19:18 PM 787 Views
Re: What did Littlefinger do in the book.....how did the final scene of the episode go down? Chas - 31/05/2011 11:13:35 PM 816 Views
Baelish did put a dagger to Ned's throat imlad - 01/06/2011 12:06:42 PM 772 Views
I stand corrected. *NM* Chas - 01/06/2011 10:35:49 PM 408 Views
Ah, my mistake... kinda A Deathwatch Guard - 01/06/2011 03:58:46 AM 800 Views
haha nossy - 02/06/2011 02:34:43 PM 955 Views
I assume at some point they are going to tie the two story lines together? random thoughts - 01/06/2011 02:43:12 PM 724 Views
Well....(small spoiler) scalius - 01/06/2011 04:39:47 PM 783 Views
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