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Robert? scalius Send a noteboard - 25/05/2011 10:04:09 PM
I may have some details wrong, but I'm pretty sure as far as Joff is concerned, Robert is his father. Joff tries to emulate Robert and wants to be like his father. Now consider how Robert treats Cersi....

Joff is just treating women like his father does. Add in the influence of Cersi's political scheming and manipulation, and you end up with one wretched Joff.
I would slave, to pave the way, to sink your ship of fools.
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GoT 1.07 "You Win or You Die" (Early viewers thread) SPOILERS imlad - 24/05/2011 01:49:47 AM 1857 Views
Re: GoT 1.07 "You Win or You Die" (Early viewers thread) SPOILERS everynametaken - 24/05/2011 03:32:57 AM 1203 Views
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And who turned Joffrey into that little douche? Legolas - 24/05/2011 11:15:05 PM 1300 Views
Robert? scalius - 25/05/2011 10:04:09 PM 992 Views
his mother... aragornital - 28/05/2011 02:39:40 PM 986 Views
They already are trying to blame her (in the show) nossy - 02/06/2011 02:23:08 PM 994 Views
Holy Crap was that ending perfect....."I did warn you not to trust me" - trzaska2000 - 24/05/2011 04:40:33 AM 1064 Views
Strange... This is the first episode that disappointed me A Deathwatch Guard - 30/05/2011 09:09:20 AM 1000 Views
I see your point but disagree Bramhodoulos - 30/05/2011 09:20:23 AM 969 Views
I agree, those scenes were very necessary..... trzaska2000 - 30/05/2011 05:01:06 PM 827 Views
Hmhm yes and no Bramhodoulos - 30/05/2011 05:07:52 PM 925 Views
You know, GRRM likely was very supportive of the scene..... trzaska2000 - 30/05/2011 05:10:58 PM 863 Views
Maybe, but GRRM isn't God and I allow myself to have a differing opinion *NM* Bramhodoulos - 30/05/2011 05:13:14 PM 433 Views
Brothels are a way of life in this epic story and play an important role. *NM* everynametaken - 31/05/2011 02:32:25 AM 479 Views
No they don't. Chas - 31/05/2011 11:08:36 PM 895 Views
Apparently you haven't read the books because they are all over in them. *NM* everynametaken - 31/05/2011 11:45:58 PM 406 Views
Afer reading your profile, you did read the books, but missed all the brothels in them. *NM* everynametaken - 31/05/2011 11:47:51 PM 457 Views
I recall the brothels Chas - 01/06/2011 12:56:32 AM 1016 Views
It's HBO, it's GRRM, what do you expect? trzaska2000 - 01/06/2011 01:31:51 AM 851 Views
HBO has made some fantastic shows. Chas - 01/06/2011 10:39:44 PM 872 Views
The stuff Littlefinger said was really important and needed to be in there. Darth_Katie - 04/06/2011 07:13:41 PM 909 Views
Question about Tywin/the books.....SPOILERS trzaska2000 - 30/05/2011 05:03:40 PM 870 Views
What I remember from the books.....SPOILERS Bramhodoulos - 30/05/2011 05:11:27 PM 867 Views
Re: Question about Tywin/the books.....SPOILERS Chas - 31/05/2011 11:15:37 PM 896 Views
Agreed! Another awesome epside! ironclad - 30/05/2011 10:04:59 PM 1150 Views
One other thing to think/worry about..... trzaska2000 - 30/05/2011 11:04:47 PM 951 Views
You can't stay away from spoilers, can you? ironclad - 30/05/2011 11:59:39 PM 911 Views
Re: You can't stay away from spoilers, can you? dacole - 31/05/2011 05:49:33 AM 838 Views
There will be lots of white-walker stuff in season 3 (spoilers in case you don't get it) Bramhodoulos - 31/05/2011 08:54:13 AM 1056 Views
You make an interesting point *future spoilers* ironclad - 31/05/2011 10:47:29 AM 1005 Views
Re: You make an interesting point *future spoilers* imlad - 31/05/2011 01:21:06 PM 909 Views
Wow, that would be a bitching ending..... trzaska2000 - 31/05/2011 04:29:49 PM 845 Views
If imlad is right, I am pretty sure.. ironclad - 31/05/2011 04:38:32 PM 869 Views
heh? everynametaken - 31/05/2011 11:50:10 PM 950 Views
I figure there is a way out of that imlad - 01/06/2011 12:01:08 PM 796 Views
Re: heh? Chas - 01/06/2011 10:41:47 PM 822 Views
Re: You make an interesting point *future spoilers* dacole - 01/06/2011 02:50:26 AM 1024 Views
Yup, love my spoilers! trzaska2000 - 31/05/2011 04:25:34 PM 773 Views
I've been thinking about that nossy - 02/06/2011 02:33:30 PM 904 Views
The problem I have with it is the heavy handedness of some scenes snoopcester - 31/05/2011 12:14:13 PM 908 Views
Is that because you know the books/story..... trzaska2000 - 31/05/2011 04:27:38 PM 847 Views
It might be snoopcester - 31/05/2011 04:37:03 PM 940 Views
Agreed, and this is probably the cause, at least in part, of a lot of my complaints above A Deathwatch Guard - 31/05/2011 07:17:34 PM 880 Views
Re: Agreed, and this is probably the cause, at least in part, of a lot of my complaints above snoopcester - 31/05/2011 08:58:44 PM 819 Views
What did Littlefinger do in the book.....how did the final scene of the episode go down? trzaska2000 - 31/05/2011 09:19:18 PM 848 Views
Re: What did Littlefinger do in the book.....how did the final scene of the episode go down? Chas - 31/05/2011 11:13:35 PM 876 Views
Baelish did put a dagger to Ned's throat imlad - 01/06/2011 12:06:42 PM 839 Views
I stand corrected. *NM* Chas - 01/06/2011 10:35:49 PM 433 Views
Ah, my mistake... kinda A Deathwatch Guard - 01/06/2011 03:58:46 AM 861 Views
haha nossy - 02/06/2011 02:34:43 PM 1011 Views
I assume at some point they are going to tie the two story lines together? random thoughts - 01/06/2011 02:43:12 PM 789 Views
Well....(small spoiler) scalius - 01/06/2011 04:39:47 PM 856 Views
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