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What I remember from the books.....SPOILERS Bramhodoulos Send a noteboard - 30/05/2011 05:11:27 PM
I have seen it mentioned in a few places and by a few posters that Robert's death was no an accident. Is this true? Was Tywin involved? Or was the plan just to keep Robert drunk and see what bad happens?

Also, just wondering, does Joffery ever find out or realize that Jaime is his father, not Robert?


If I remember correctly the wine as poisened, with Lancel involved, though it only strongly hinted at in the books, and probalby never mentioned or confessed explicitly.

As for Joffery, Stannis will shout the truth from the rooftops in the second and third book, but as far as I can tell Joff simply believes is mummy on this who discards it as "treacherous lies".
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You know, GRRM likely was very supportive of the scene..... trzaska2000 - 30/05/2011 05:10:58 PM 967 Views
Maybe, but GRRM isn't God and I allow myself to have a differing opinion *NM* Bramhodoulos - 30/05/2011 05:13:14 PM 501 Views
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What I remember from the books.....SPOILERS Bramhodoulos - 30/05/2011 05:11:27 PM 975 Views
Re: Question about Tywin/the books.....SPOILERS Chas - 31/05/2011 11:15:37 PM 995 Views
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You make an interesting point *future spoilers* ironclad - 31/05/2011 10:47:29 AM 1108 Views
Re: You make an interesting point *future spoilers* imlad - 31/05/2011 01:21:06 PM 1016 Views
Wow, that would be a bitching ending..... trzaska2000 - 31/05/2011 04:29:49 PM 947 Views
If imlad is right, I am pretty sure.. ironclad - 31/05/2011 04:38:32 PM 965 Views
heh? everynametaken - 31/05/2011 11:50:10 PM 1054 Views
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Agreed, and this is probably the cause, at least in part, of a lot of my complaints above A Deathwatch Guard - 31/05/2011 07:17:34 PM 986 Views
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What did Littlefinger do in the book.....how did the final scene of the episode go down? trzaska2000 - 31/05/2011 09:19:18 PM 965 Views
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Baelish did put a dagger to Ned's throat imlad - 01/06/2011 12:06:42 PM 935 Views
I stand corrected. *NM* Chas - 01/06/2011 10:35:49 PM 493 Views
Ah, my mistake... kinda A Deathwatch Guard - 01/06/2011 03:58:46 AM 962 Views
haha nossy - 02/06/2011 02:34:43 PM 1109 Views
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