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Apart from my not having seen Casablanca, I couldn't agree more. Legolas Send a noteboard - 23/02/2012 06:23:51 PM
Don't get me wrong I like ROTK, but let's be honest, it is the weakest of the LotR films and only won best picture because the academy felt the need to honour the LotR films and failed to give the oscar to FotR, which was the LotR film which deserved it.

Thank you. You would think this would be blindingly obvious, but apparently it bears repeating. I can see a half-hearted case for TTT being as good as FotR on account of it being based on such a hard book to make a movie out of, but RotK was the weakest of the three by a mile.
Return of the King doesn't even come close to the brilliance of Casablanca. In terms of story, dialogue, acting Casablanca is better. Return of the King doesn't even make sense as a standalone film and since we are not comparing all of the Lord of the Rings films against Casablanca, we must judge Return of the King as a standalone film. In which case it is over long (particularly the endings) is a mess structurally and has poor character development.

I actually liked the endings better than much of the rest, and as I said still haven't seen Casablanca, but yes.
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Return of the King beat Casablanca? nossy - 23/02/2012 10:49:32 AM 1899 Views
Anyone claiming to have more fun with Casablanca than with ROTK is just crazy ironclad - 23/02/2012 11:03:14 AM 1261 Views
Calm down, buddy. nossy - 23/02/2012 11:10:35 AM 1196 Views
*barks* Never! ironclad - 23/02/2012 11:32:59 AM 1294 Views
*bites* nossy - 23/02/2012 09:18:37 PM 1280 Views
I think it's fair to vote if you love one entry enough to wish for it to win *shrugs* ironclad - 23/02/2012 10:08:33 PM 1176 Views
Technically, that's just cheering for the home team. nossy - 23/02/2012 11:09:44 PM 1119 Views
You seem to confuse this with a presidential election ironclad - 23/02/2012 11:30:05 PM 1031 Views
That might be true too. nossy - 24/02/2012 12:11:51 AM 1180 Views
I'd say it's a pretty fair spread of years. Chas - 24/02/2012 11:15:30 PM 1494 Views
Have you seen Casablanca? Camilla - 24/02/2012 12:55:30 PM 1089 Views
No ironclad - 24/02/2012 02:21:16 PM 1176 Views
Well, I have seen both Camilla - 24/02/2012 02:30:34 PM 1245 Views
He doesn't know yet. nossy - 24/02/2012 05:22:11 PM 1123 Views
Clearly. Camilla - 24/02/2012 05:32:40 PM 1262 Views
Movies about romance and love that make female audiences cry = chick flick *NM* ironclad - 24/02/2012 05:35:30 PM 611 Views
In that case Camilla - 24/02/2012 05:52:37 PM 1334 Views
Lol. nossy - 24/02/2012 06:17:08 PM 1087 Views
LOL ironclad - 24/02/2012 09:05:59 PM 1281 Views
Re: LOL Camilla - 24/02/2012 09:10:58 PM 1186 Views
Re: LOL ironclad - 24/02/2012 09:23:47 PM 1134 Views
Re: LOL Camilla - 24/02/2012 09:41:44 PM 1542 Views
Well there goes having a fun movie discussion without someone taking it personally ironclad - 24/02/2012 10:19:40 PM 1083 Views
Right. *NM* Camilla - 24/02/2012 10:21:02 PM 668 Views
Actually I'd say Casablanca is one of the most masculine films in existence Mark - 24/02/2012 07:37:02 PM 1168 Views
Agreed. *NM* Camilla - 24/02/2012 09:08:31 PM 684 Views
I know Bogart is all macho lifting her chin like that and all... ironclad - 24/02/2012 09:11:15 PM 1238 Views
You really should stop commenting on it until you have seen it Camilla - 24/02/2012 09:38:49 PM 1143 Views
Neither have I. j-whitt987 - 24/02/2012 05:55:37 PM 1172 Views
Old movies have a way of shocking you with how modern they are. Legolas - 26/02/2012 12:31:16 PM 1244 Views
"Best" to me means "Most Enjoyable." Kaldric - 23/02/2012 02:09:48 PM 1306 Views
Precisely! ironclad - 23/02/2012 02:30:38 PM 1188 Views
I don't disagree with this. nossy - 23/02/2012 09:24:03 PM 1102 Views
In the words of W.B. Yeats You have disgraced yourselves again Mark - 23/02/2012 04:04:56 PM 1233 Views
See, that's why such polls are both fun and unnecessary ironclad - 23/02/2012 04:13:25 PM 1214 Views
Pfft, you forgot one crucial point Mark - 23/02/2012 05:51:49 PM 1311 Views
A Deathwatch Guard - 23/02/2012 05:04:52 PM 1094 Views
Apart from my not having seen Casablanca, I couldn't agree more. Legolas - 23/02/2012 06:23:51 PM 1139 Views
You found it was the weakest ironclad - 23/02/2012 07:17:28 PM 1107 Views
Perhaps I phrased that a bit badly, true. Sorry about that. Legolas - 23/02/2012 09:39:12 PM 1173 Views
In fairness Mark - 23/02/2012 11:13:41 PM 1233 Views
ROTK isn't really too great of a movie. mogi67 - 26/02/2012 03:07:58 PM 1125 Views
All sensible points. nossy - 23/02/2012 09:26:27 PM 1034 Views
At least On the Waterfront beat Titanic... *NM* Stephen - 23/02/2012 06:14:19 PM 557 Views
What's much worse, it beat Gone with the Wind. Sacrilege. Legolas - 23/02/2012 06:25:47 PM 1052 Views
Um... that is not my favorite movie. nossy - 23/02/2012 09:13:57 PM 1198 Views
Not mine, either, but I do love it. Legolas - 23/02/2012 09:41:28 PM 1026 Views
Aww crap ironclad - 23/02/2012 07:58:31 PM 1201 Views
You might have to hate it on principle. nossy - 23/02/2012 09:09:33 PM 1021 Views
Casablanca is my all time favorite movie. This enrages me Urza - 23/02/2012 08:55:30 PM 1185 Views
Heh nossy - 23/02/2012 09:13:09 PM 1020 Views
I'm kind of torn on whether I want to see Lawrence of Arabia. Legolas - 23/02/2012 09:43:16 PM 1161 Views
Hmm, no Hitchcock? dadof5 - 23/02/2012 10:04:25 PM 1073 Views
It's only using films which won the best picture oscar Mark - 23/02/2012 10:58:41 PM 1127 Views
Ohh, that explains a LOT ironclad - 23/02/2012 11:24:59 PM 1046 Views
That does explain a lot dadof5 - 24/02/2012 03:21:08 PM 1125 Views
Godfather won, you can all rest easy now ironclad - 24/02/2012 09:30:02 PM 1081 Views
Phew? nossy - 25/02/2012 12:14:06 AM 1133 Views
THAT CHICK FLICK??!!!?! Stephen - 25/02/2012 12:24:28 AM 1073 Views
It feels like "let's be mean to Jens" day. nossy - 25/02/2012 12:49:03 AM 999 Views
Hey, at least we had around 50 decent replies and a nice discussion until things got unpleasant ironclad - 25/02/2012 01:24:48 AM 1010 Views
Sorry, I meant my comment to be tongue in cheek Stephen - 25/02/2012 02:19:34 AM 1050 Views
Yeah. nossy - 25/02/2012 12:00:19 PM 1132 Views
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