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Actually, I didn't get that far. The guy annoyed me so much I shut it off after the last point Cannoli Send a noteboard - 28/02/2012 06:45:43 PM
Of course no Fox exec was going to stand up to George Lucas. He used that as a framing tool, as an example showing how he wanted to rework certain plot elements.

And the issue isn't "Oh if Episode 4 had this issue and was still good, therefore Episode 1 can do this and still be good." Saying "The original trilogy had poor characterization, therefore the prequels can have poor characterization" isn't an argument.

As for the stuff about Padme, I think his main point there was that the movie could have used more banter- "playfulness" is what he used, I think.


Which of his ideas do you disagree with? I liked his point about Darth Maul, that he would have made for a very effective villain instead of just a one-off lightsaber battle.
He was played by Ray Park. Nuff said. He's a grunt, a thug a henchman, no matter how powerful. Lucas had no plans with him, the reason he captures the imagination so much is that he's pretty much a blank slate suitable for projection of "cool" attributes. At that point, the Sith were playing a devious & subtle endgame of infiltration and subversion ( "Sidious" & "Tyrannus" being more appropriately suggestive names, rather than "Maul" ), and using scare tactics to create a scenario to take over and sandbag the Jedi. Maul might look all scary and intimidating, but there's not a lot he can do with that face, aside from be an executioner or intimidator. Even as a cog in the narrative, he no longer fits, because it's about the subversion and temptation of Anakin Skywalker. There's no role for a back-flipping, gimmick-sword-wielding devil-faced thug in that story. Count Dooku serves as a cautionary warning, and his defeat costs Anakin, being another step down the path to the Dark Side. Palpatine/Sidious, of course, is obvious in his role, and much better realized than in the original trilogy, IMO. In fact, his performance and characterization in the prequels flesh out his character in RotJ and actually make his actions and motivations more plausible. There was a lot of confusion back in the 80s about why he would openly encourage his potential recruit to kill his right-hand man and most valuable henchman... until you see that's how he got Vader in the first place.

I also like his idea about having increasing focus on Obi-Wan, at least for the first movie. Sure, the prequels are billed as "Anakin's rise and fall," but can you honestly say that little 9 year old made a good main character? Much better to have the kid farther in the background, and have the character of Anakin be focused on more in the next two movies.
I agreed with his briefly mentioned idea of Anakin being a teenager in the first one, but I think Obi-Wan, like Yoda, works better as a mentor figure for both trilogies, or at most, the Han Solo (albeit of a very different character and type) to Anakin's Luke.


By the way, do you post in the comments of Cinnamon Bunzuh?
Cannoli
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What if Episode 1 was good? - 28/02/2012 05:11:40 AM 992 Views
thank you. this is awesome. *NM* - 28/02/2012 05:47:36 AM 292 Views
He has some good points - 28/02/2012 11:32:49 AM 512 Views
Which were which? *NM* - 28/02/2012 02:46:40 PM 203 Views
Talking people are annoying, especially when their first idea is stupid - 28/02/2012 01:51:50 PM 525 Views
Errrr you're not really addressing the video - 28/02/2012 02:55:46 PM 631 Views
Re: Errrr you're not really addressing the video - 28/02/2012 04:22:16 PM 663 Views
This. Very much. - 28/02/2012 06:54:00 PM 469 Views
Re: This. Very much. - 28/02/2012 11:27:02 PM 544 Views
Because 7-10 year olds are really into trade regulation? - 28/02/2012 07:42:43 PM 395 Views
Qui-Gon is the protagonist if you absolutely need one (though I don't know why you do) - 28/02/2012 10:59:23 PM 447 Views
Eh. It wasn't much of an "ensemble," either - 29/02/2012 06:23:23 PM 518 Views
You don't really need character development either - 29/02/2012 07:56:09 PM 512 Views
Re: Because 7-10 year olds are really into trade regulation? - 29/02/2012 12:16:51 AM 456 Views
Well said - 29/02/2012 08:39:36 AM 506 Views
Re: Well said - 02/03/2012 04:51:49 PM 490 Views
Re: Because 7-10 year olds are really into trade regulation? - 29/02/2012 06:33:07 PM 400 Views
Actually, I didn't get that far. The guy annoyed me so much I shut it off after the last point - 28/02/2012 06:45:43 PM 493 Views
Hah, I do! - 28/02/2012 07:55:52 PM 393 Views
Now I want Facebook posts for WoT - 29/02/2012 07:47:31 PM 562 Views
I just hate beets - 01/03/2012 05:18:41 PM 427 Views
Who here thinks they could make a better Episode I ? - 06/03/2012 06:43:58 PM 397 Views
Of course they'd all raise their hands - 07/03/2012 12:34:30 PM 432 Views
The point was that there's nothing special about this guy. - 08/03/2012 01:02:32 AM 462 Views

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