To be fair, non-readers come away with a different experience.
Cannoli Send a noteboard - 24/04/2012 02:19:01 PM
Very true. But that's Dany for you.
The only problem is, the more "dany" she gets, the more impressed people seem to think she is, even Martin! Varys' little speech to Kevan at the end of DWD about Tommen's flaws as a ruler could apply perfectly to Daenerys as well, yet Martin seems to think we should be symapthetic to her dreams of destroying the Seven Kingdoms having a few nobles with the temerity to resist being murdered by her father. Everything she touches turns to shit, and when people try to tell her "but this is what you want to do in Westeros" she gets the lesson completely backwards and tries to change human nature so she can someday have her cake and eat it too.Oh so that was Bolton with Robb there after the battle? I wasn't sure. It certainly would have been more convenient to introduce him at Harenhaal, I suppose.
In Arya's storyline it was not very clear (especially not for non-readers) where they arrived and why it had the smell of death all over the place.
I thought the same, felling ab bit underwhelmed by the presentation of Harrenhal, having the book descriptions and Naismith's impressive painting to go on, but my brother, who has not read the books was raving about how cool it came across. Things got better once there was interrogation for the Brotherhood, although that remained rather unexplained too.
He thought that was a reference to the Faceless men. I would have liked the shadow child to be entirely obscure and unseen until it strikes (or even still after.)
I think they are going to combine those scenes as well. Ser Courtney Penrose is probably out of the show, and we are going to see the shadow child strike down Renly in Storm's End, forcing Catelyn and Brienne to flee and Stannis to rise in power. None too soon either, for as abrupt and fast as the story seems to be getting its pieces into position, you have to remember how much of CoK in Tyrion & Sansa's story was nervous anticipation of Stannis' approach to the capital and preparation for the siege. With the major battle coming in episode 9, that leaves only four episodes to cover what in the books included- Renly's death
- the defection of the storm lords and the siege of Storm's End
- the death of Ser Courtney
- the construction of the chain (in anticipation of Stannis' naval assault, which would not have been an issue if Renly had remained the main enemy)
- the riots in the city
- Sansa's intrigues with Ser Dontos
- the introduction of the pyromancers
- the factionalism among Stannis' men
- Tyrion's preparations such as hiding Tommen, and the mutual blackmail with Cersei
- The groundwork being laid for the alliance with the Tyrells (I simply cannot imagine they are going to have that be the same degree surprise it was in the books without utterly confusing the audience, so there is going to have to be SOME preparation, even if not made clear, so that viewers will be able to go "Aha!" when Loras and "Renly's ghost" come charging in to save the day.
Also, they are going to need to devote time to the reactions to some of these things and how they motivate what the Starks, etc, are doing, and there is also Theon's rather extensive storyline, with seizing Winterfell, the introduction of the Reeds, Bran & Rickon's "escape", the siege of Winterfell, the introduction of Ramsay/Reek and the fall of Winterfell, which has to come in time for Catelyn to hear the word and grow desperate enough to release Jaime.
All in all, there is a LOT to get in before or during episode 9, so the truncating of the shadow-child arc, and the combining of the Mountain and Lorch in Arya's flight & capture, the combining of Tywin & Roose as master of Harrenhal all these things seem to be necessary to speed stuff along.
Cannoli
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"Sometimes unhinged, sometimes unfair, always entertaining"
- The Crownless
“Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.” GK Chesteron
Deus Vult!
Game of Thrones 2.04 Garden of Bones: OF COURSE SHE HAS TO HAVE A JOB!
- 23/04/2012 04:14:01 PM
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Yeah, don't know where they're going with the Robb Stark love interest
- 23/04/2012 06:14:16 PM
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Fairly sure they cast Oona Chaplin as Jeyne EDIT
- 23/04/2012 07:17:18 PM
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Or they dropped the character all together, as they seem wont to do *NM*
- 23/04/2012 09:21:08 PM
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There's some confusion here.
- 23/04/2012 10:37:56 PM
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I'm guessing no.
- 23/04/2012 07:50:57 PM
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Re: I'm guessing no.
- 24/04/2012 05:23:01 AM
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It's not love for the system - it's an explanation that the system works
- 24/04/2012 02:30:58 PM
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Re: It's not love for the system - it's an explanation that the system works
- 01/05/2012 01:01:14 AM
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Oh, I agree. An aristocratic system mostly precludes equality before the law, a basic requirement
- 03/05/2012 08:29:08 PM
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interesting and surprisingly thought provoking. Enjoying talking governemtal theory here
- 09/05/2012 11:28:45 AM
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Re: interesting and surprisingly thought provoking. Enjoying talking governemtal theory here
- 10/05/2012 12:09:46 AM
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Re: interesting and surprisingly thought provoking. Enjoying talking governemtal theory here
- 18/05/2012 06:04:18 AM
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Re: interesting and surprisingly thought provoking. Enjoying talking governemtal theory here
- 12/05/2012 02:02:49 AM
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Re: interesting and surprisingly thought provoking. Enjoying talking governemtal theory here
- 18/05/2012 06:08:20 AM
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Re: Game of Thrones 2.04 Garden of Bones: OF COURSE SHE HAS TO HAVE A JOB!
- 24/04/2012 05:13:02 AM
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- 24/04/2012 01:19:40 PM
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- 01/05/2012 01:25:44 AM
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- 03/05/2012 08:45:17 PM
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- 09/05/2012 11:35:29 AM
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Yeah I dunno what to make of that either
- 24/04/2012 09:28:48 AM
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To be fair, non-readers come away with a different experience.
- 24/04/2012 02:19:01 PM
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- 01/05/2012 01:27:09 AM
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