In short, I was right about the ridiculousness of an archer on a superhero team, but they kept it from dragging down the movie or the character. His other weaponry is no more effective, such as his deployment of the world’s most useless hand grenade. Based on the proximity of an ordinary human to it upon explosive, that grenade has an effective lethal radius of about six inches.
I think that the problem here is that you see a bow/arrow and dismiss him as nothing more than the pair of arms that uses it. I thought he worked into the story very well, and I never felt that he was anything other than a bad ass human helping out his team. I loved when they put him up for recon, basically, and he advised Stark on the banking, for example.
Another minor quibble is that in attempting to convey to Captain America that someone is very smart they tell him he’s like Stephen Hawking. When Steve Rogers draws a blank, having been frozen for most of Hawking’s career, the other party is at a loss for words and ends up saying just that he’s smart. First of all, most people don’t use Stephen Hawking as a touchstone for intelligence. The name that is still used as synonymous with genius is that of Steve Rogers’ contemporary, EINSTEIN. Who in the world thinks of Stephen Hawking as the most recognizable genius in human history, and decides that a man who lived in Einstein’ day would not know the name of any others?
No quibble at all for me. I thought it was amusing, and TMJ is right about opening it up for further humor re: references.
Finally, the Hulk ran into a problem that the first Ghost Rider film had, IMO. Namely his human alter-ego seems to believe that releasing the super-powered version is the worst thing in the world and on a par with playing midwife to the Antichrist, without adequate evidence to the contrary. For all that the Hulk seemed to be out of control initially, whenever the plot required it, he was perfectly well behaved and not at all inclined to humorously sucker-punch teammates.
That wasn't the problem I had, if I'm reading you correctly. I was a bit bothered that Hulk scared the snot out of BW by going nuts and trying to kill them all, then was somehow easily (almost, heheHEE!) controllable later in the film. That was my only hold up in the film, but the hulk was SO FUCKING COOL that I didn't care much. He now has some of my new favorite movie bits.
I'm pleased to report The Avengers offered both entertainment AND justification (spoilers seperated)
- 05/05/2012 04:33:39 AM
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Spoilers about archery, aircraft carriers etc
- 05/05/2012 04:34:45 AM
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Re: Spoilers about archery, aircraft carriers etc
- 05/05/2012 08:29:33 AM
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The Heli-Carrier is well established in the Marvel Universe as S.H.I.E.L.D.'s base of operations.
- 05/05/2012 12:12:57 PM
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Yup, they couldn't get away with not having the Heli-Carrier.
- 05/05/2012 01:17:58 PM
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- 07/05/2012 08:35:53 AM
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- 06/05/2012 03:51:23 PM
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Yeah, Black Widow's reaction was a little... weird
- 07/05/2012 06:26:26 PM
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- 08/05/2012 01:21:24 PM
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Not really, that is the nature of The Hulk.
- 09/05/2012 02:22:08 PM
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- 09/05/2012 03:13:53 PM
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It depends on which interpretation of the Hulk they are running with.
- 14/05/2012 01:50:44 PM
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Haven't you missed the point of the helicarrier?
- 07/05/2012 09:18:31 PM
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Yes, what have bombers done without fighter screens over the last 100 years?
- 12/05/2012 05:44:32 PM
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Got shot down a lot, in major confilcts against foes with air power.
- 12/05/2012 08:38:00 PM
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I thought the disparate power levels were unintentionally hilarious (spoilers)
- 07/05/2012 03:14:34 PM
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- 07/05/2012 11:23:39 PM
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Hawkeye does basically state as much to Black Widow. They're made for a spy movie.
- 14/05/2012 11:20:53 PM
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???
- 15/05/2012 01:36:39 AM
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I was just continuing the discussion. Could've replied to same one as you, yeah. *NM*
- 16/05/2012 01:16:08 AM
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What was up with the Hulk? (spoilers)
- 07/05/2012 06:35:06 PM
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I think it's just one of the many many plot holes.
- 07/05/2012 08:20:06 PM
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Regarding Coulson's role in the Marvel movies going forward *SPOILERS*
- 14/05/2012 11:15:12 PM
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Re: Regarding Coulson's role in the Marvel movies going forward *SPOILERS*
- 15/05/2012 01:50:52 AM
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- 16/05/2012 01:18:34 AM
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