There was not an orc nemesis in the books. In the books this happened
1) They stumble onto the the goblins of the misty mountain by taking shelter in a cave. The cave had a false wall and the dwarves were ambushed.
2) The great goblin/goblin king is killed by Gandalf
3) During their escape bilbo falls and finds Gollum
4) They go down the misty mountains, are attacked by wargs, followed by them being attacked by the goblins. The dwarves are rescued by the eagles.
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Mirkwood, Laketown, and Smaug happen
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5) Due to the dwarves/Gandalf killing the goblin king and the prospect of riches. Bolg son and heir of Azog (the Orc who started the dwarf/orc wars a 150 years earlier), attacks the combined armies of dwarf, elf, and man. Once the eagles arrive this battle is known as the battle of the five armies.
1) They stumble onto the the goblins of the misty mountain by taking shelter in a cave. The cave had a false wall and the dwarves were ambushed.
2) The great goblin/goblin king is killed by Gandalf
3) During their escape bilbo falls and finds Gollum
4) They go down the misty mountains, are attacked by wargs, followed by them being attacked by the goblins. The dwarves are rescued by the eagles.
...
Mirkwood, Laketown, and Smaug happen
...
5) Due to the dwarves/Gandalf killing the goblin king and the prospect of riches. Bolg son and heir of Azog (the Orc who started the dwarf/orc wars a 150 years earlier), attacks the combined armies of dwarf, elf, and man. Once the eagles arrive this battle is known as the battle of the five armies.
The Hobbit - Discussion thread and first thoughts
- 13/12/2012 12:21:52 AM
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As for the 3D...
- 13/12/2012 04:18:43 PM
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I wouldn't call it a rash - more like chafing.
- 14/12/2012 04:36:42 PM
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I liked it. There are some nitpicks, but overall it is enjoyable
- 14/12/2012 04:50:28 PM
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I think two words have killed this movie for me: "orc nemesis"
- 15/12/2012 02:00:33 AM
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To be fair, it's an orc nemesis from the books.
- 15/12/2012 07:23:16 PM
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Wait are we talking about Azog here?
- 16/12/2012 01:08:11 AM
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Looks like it.
- 16/12/2012 12:19:19 PM
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There was not an orc nemesis in the books
- 16/12/2012 01:55:59 PM
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There actually was in Tolkein's mind, it is just contained in a different book. *NM*
- 28/12/2012 02:37:13 PM
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If you haven't seen it, you really can't judge. It's not a big deal
- 09/01/2013 04:13:48 AM
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I hated it, but I know I will be in the minority.
- 28/12/2012 02:45:26 PM
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I think any of those changes need to be viewed with the question, "Did it make a better movie?"
- 09/01/2013 04:25:32 AM
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Radagast? Bunny Sledge? Archrival Azog? The whole goblin cavern scene? It's a massacre alright. *NM*
- 11/01/2013 03:07:55 PM
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i actually liked the stone giant fight, that was part of the book which i appreciated in the film
- 08/01/2013 09:47:18 PM
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