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The Dark One vs. the Creator Etzel Send a noteboard - 09/06/2010 09:54:41 PM
I just wonder what the DO would actually gain, if he manages to break out of his prison, except for a short time being free. Even if the DO could immediately destroy all creation and maybe remake it in his own way, it seems logical that at least then the Creator would interfere and imprison the DO anew, which would start the whole cycle again.

Or do you think that the DO could actually kill or imprison the Creator on his own, if he gets free, and thus ultimately win (except if the Creator breaks free again). Doesn't seem likely, though, considering that the DO obviously couldn't prevent to be imprisoned before.

Another idea is that the DO can't kill or defeat the Creator on his own, but perhaps he might be able to achieve this, if he completely corrupts the Creator's Champion, the Dragon, to use him as a tool/weapon against the Creator (e.g. by giving the Dragon complete access to the TP). This would better explain, why the Shadow would rather have Rand on his side - and not dead - to win the ultimate victory, namely killing/imprisoning the Creator. Also Lanfear seemed to think that Rand & her could challenge the Creator with the Choedan Kal. Finally, RJ answered that it would theoretically even be possible to balefire the DO, although that this would destroy the world. Maybe the Creator could be balefired as well (one wonders, though, where he is exactly).
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The Dark One vs. the Creator - 09/06/2010 09:54:41 PM 1258 Views
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This. - 10/06/2010 04:40:34 AM 723 Views
Exactly. I've been saying this for quite a while - 10/06/2010 10:29:01 PM 647 Views
I'll give this a go... - 10/06/2010 05:19:49 AM 746 Views
destroy the circular nature of the wheel, instead of the wheel - 11/06/2010 05:04:41 PM 622 Views
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probably! - 11/06/2010 02:18:29 AM 632 Views
As others said... - 10/06/2010 08:46:46 AM 662 Views
It could be that Dark One's goal is own death - 10/06/2010 02:18:13 AM 669 Views
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I like this idea... - 10/06/2010 08:47:52 AM 721 Views
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Well... - 10/06/2010 04:32:45 AM 735 Views
So... - 10/06/2010 08:49:48 AM 726 Views
Seems unlikely to me. - 10/06/2010 06:09:46 PM 739 Views
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Re: Well... - 11/06/2010 01:34:33 AM 593 Views
Okay. - 11/06/2010 05:11:26 AM 575 Views
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Oh, no. - 11/06/2010 06:26:55 AM 659 Views
OK - I get it! - 11/06/2010 04:45:49 PM 581 Views

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