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Well... Fanatic-Templar Send a noteboard - 10/06/2010 04:32:45 AM
... since the Creator and Shai'tan are equal and opposite powers, hypothetically it could be a coin flip as to who wins every time they fight. However, I think that the Creator needed to sacrifice some of his power to imprison Shai'tan and to create the world, so that if Shai'tan breaks free and destroys Creation, he will face against a greatly weakened Creator.

Another idea is that the DO can't kill or defeat the Creator on his own, but perhaps he might be able to achieve this, if he completely corrupts the Creator's Champion, the Dragon, to use him as a tool/weapon against the Creator (e.g. by giving the Dragon complete access to the TP). This would better explain, why the Shadow would rather have Rand on his side - and not dead - to win the ultimate victory, namely killing/imprisoning the Creator. Also Lanfear seemed to think that Rand & her could challenge the Creator with the Choedan Kal. Finally, RJ answered that it would theoretically even be possible to balefire the DO, although that this would destroy the world. Maybe the Creator could be balefired as well (one wonders, though, where he is exactly).


Yeah, I always believed Lanfear was a delusional nutcase, and after reading in The Gathering Storm that Rand counterbalanced the appeal of all the saidin in the Choedan Kal with what little fraction of Shai'tan's power he was permitted to access, it seems pretty laughable to think that they could in any way, shape or form be a threat to Shai'tan no matter how much One Power they have. Hell, just touching Shai'tan with the Power would drive them insane and taint the Source, Hundred Companions style.
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The Dark One vs. the Creator Etzel - 09/06/2010 09:54:41 PM 1086 Views
What I never understand in any fantasy series... Tom - 09/06/2010 10:22:13 PM 717 Views
utter evil always seems a bit shallow in the end Foxhead - 09/06/2010 11:16:59 PM 561 Views
Especially if you're immortal Tom - 10/06/2010 03:47:26 AM 536 Views
Here's another stumper for these things, but first newyorkersedai - 10/06/2010 12:08:41 AM 605 Views
Without discussing theodicy (that's a CMB sort of discussion)... Tom - 10/06/2010 03:53:31 AM 908 Views
I don't think RJ shows a balanced power system darius_sedai - 10/06/2010 12:23:03 PM 527 Views
It's name is the Creator, maby it's unable to destroy the DO? *NM* Lohikaarme - 15/06/2010 09:02:12 AM 216 Views
I think I get the goal of the one in WoT though. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 10/06/2010 12:11:57 AM 225 Views
Please elaborate, then. *pulls up chair and offers to pour alcohol* *NM* Tom - 10/06/2010 03:55:50 AM 229 Views
It's like Aerosmith said... Kieran - 10/06/2010 01:36:17 AM 519 Views
But Shai'tan is operating as though it's about the goal, not the journey. *NM* Tom - 10/06/2010 03:55:27 AM 241 Views
That is his thought... Kieran - 11/06/2010 01:54:42 AM 456 Views
I agree that Shaitan must've been behind the "Crying/Crazy/Amazin'" songs *NM* newyorkersedai - 10/06/2010 03:25:26 PM 299 Views
that's kind of the point... car'a'aman - 10/06/2010 04:19:30 AM 519 Views
This. Fanatic-Templar - 10/06/2010 04:40:34 AM 534 Views
Exactly. I've been saying this for quite a while RugbyPlayingAshaman - 10/06/2010 10:29:01 PM 466 Views
I'll give this a go... fionwe1987 - 10/06/2010 05:19:49 AM 581 Views
destroy the circular nature of the wheel, instead of the wheel redhand - 11/06/2010 05:04:41 PM 453 Views
I don't agree with many of these people - I think the bad guys have plausible agendas Sidious - 10/06/2010 08:45:52 AM 502 Views
Personally I think the Wheel is the DOs prison not just an "eyesore" darius_sedai - 10/06/2010 12:29:13 PM 459 Views
Probably a chicken and egg scenario Sidious - 10/06/2010 03:29:34 PM 433 Views
probably! darius_sedai - 11/06/2010 02:18:29 AM 453 Views
As others said... Etzel - 10/06/2010 08:46:46 AM 463 Views
It could be that Dark One's goal is own death Skeeve the Great - 10/06/2010 02:18:13 AM 496 Views
Then why would he fight so hard? Tom - 10/06/2010 03:54:55 AM 584 Views
I like this idea... Etzel - 10/06/2010 08:47:52 AM 505 Views
I don't think he can die Sidious - 10/06/2010 08:57:05 AM 524 Views
Well... Fanatic-Templar - 10/06/2010 04:32:45 AM 570 Views
So... Etzel - 10/06/2010 08:49:48 AM 553 Views
Seems unlikely to me. Fanatic-Templar - 10/06/2010 06:09:46 PM 545 Views
Re: Well... Datakim - 10/06/2010 11:00:07 PM 467 Views
Re: Well... Fanatic-Templar - 11/06/2010 12:12:55 AM 482 Views
Re: Well... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 10/06/2010 11:10:55 PM 441 Views
Re: Well... Fanatic-Templar - 11/06/2010 12:20:28 AM 446 Views
Re: Well... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 11/06/2010 01:34:33 AM 435 Views
Okay. Fanatic-Templar - 11/06/2010 05:11:26 AM 417 Views
Re: Okay. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 11/06/2010 05:25:08 AM 477 Views
Oh, no. Fanatic-Templar - 11/06/2010 06:26:55 AM 482 Views
OK - I get it! RugbyPlayingAshaman - 11/06/2010 04:45:49 PM 424 Views
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