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I think the DO's power is generated off of Chaos darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 10/06/2010 01:21:56 PM
And I wish I'd found that quote a while back, when everyone was debating how useless the Chosen seem, how they're not doing the sorts of things we'd expect super-powerful channelers to do, etc.

I think those conversations would've gone a little differently if everyone saw proof that all the Chosen aren't just playing it safe.

It seems the Forsaken are usually somewhat constricted and not allowed to massively attack main players on the Lightside yet, because they seem to be more valuable as pawns, e.g. Egwene (the Cleansing was an exception, though, and Moridin at least gave the order now to kill the other two ta'veren). This is also illustrated by the fact that Moridin even personally saves Rand's life during the confrontation with Sammael in the end of ACoS. I really hope all this will make sense in the end, when/if we eventually learn the real "master plan" of the DO.


In the AoL it took 50 years of the "Collapse" before the DO and his minions were powerful enough to strike. Obviously in the current Age it's a easier to create Chaos and thus fuel the DOs power. Each of the main characters would have been easy sources for generating Chaos, or at least prolonging existing Chaos (as with Egwene). Why kill off such a valuable source? Note that Mesaana has no problem having Egwene deposed once they realize she is actually "a woman in with a girls face".
Domani Drag Queen in the White Tower ... Aran'gar watch out!
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Egwene's future Etzel - 08/06/2010 10:10:28 AM 1171 Views
The headsman's axe might also be merely metaphorical. *NM* RandAllThor - 08/06/2010 11:25:52 AM 171 Views
Yes, could be... Etzel - 08/06/2010 01:36:08 PM 345 Views
I've wondered if Egwene is "The Andoran Candidate" newyorkersedai - 08/06/2010 04:07:18 PM 410 Views
I rather think Aran'gar was a failure... Etzel - 09/06/2010 10:56:42 AM 271 Views
Finally found a quote to redeem the Forsaken a bit newyorkersedai - 09/06/2010 03:53:37 PM 266 Views
Yeah, it's a bit strange... Etzel - 09/06/2010 04:09:48 PM 251 Views
Agreed newyorkersedai - 09/06/2010 04:26:27 PM 231 Views
I think the DO's power is generated off of Chaos darius_sedai - 10/06/2010 01:21:56 PM 220 Views
Re: Yeah, it's a bit strange... DomA - 09/06/2010 07:15:41 PM 234 Views
That is obvious, but... Etzel - 09/06/2010 08:25:16 PM 203 Views
Re: That is obvious, but... DomA - 10/06/2010 05:13:50 PM 342 Views
More thoughts in defense of this idea newyorkersedai - 09/06/2010 10:30:14 PM 224 Views
I think Aran'gar rather planned... Etzel - 10/06/2010 08:37:35 AM 251 Views
Re: More thoughts in defense of this idea darius_sedai - 10/06/2010 01:26:54 PM 237 Views
Aran'gar certainly isn't Taim Etzel - 10/06/2010 02:15:40 PM 219 Views
It's not my theory... I do think it would be hilarious though darius_sedai - 10/06/2010 02:44:57 PM 237 Views
Implausible newyorkersedai - 10/06/2010 02:50:51 PM 222 Views
I mean... Etzel - 10/06/2010 03:20:41 PM 195 Views
I still think yet another clue speaks loudly that Taim is a real Forsaken newyorkersedai - 10/06/2010 04:04:06 PM 211 Views
RJ explained Taim's look at the beginning of LoC Etzel - 10/06/2010 04:25:54 PM 290 Views
Personally I think RJ was full of sh*t with that comment darius_sedai - 11/06/2010 01:20:25 PM 226 Views
Indeed Sidious - 12/06/2010 08:27:16 AM 228 Views
Exactly! darius_sedai - 12/06/2010 01:02:53 PM 219 Views
Re: I still think yet another clue speaks loudly that Taim is a real Forsaken DomA - 10/06/2010 07:58:42 PM 269 Views
Re: I mean... darius_sedai - 11/06/2010 01:23:28 PM 191 Views
Re: Implausible DomA - 10/06/2010 06:44:01 PM 249 Views
Mesaana's more likely. There just isn't enough time for it to be the Seanchan, imo *NM* Deadsy - 08/06/2010 08:31:07 PM 106 Views
On the other hand, we know that Egwene has to meet Seanchan yet. *NM* Etzel - 09/06/2010 10:51:37 AM 105 Views
In book time, she'll probably be seeing Seta (and possibly Egeanin) in a couple hours Deadsy - 09/06/2010 11:09:08 AM 235 Views
They are in Caemlyn now... Etzel - 09/06/2010 11:45:02 AM 277 Views
I didn't say it was important Deadsy - 09/06/2010 11:56:44 AM 217 Views
I mean... Etzel - 09/06/2010 02:54:33 PM 272 Views
not going to happen Deadsy - 09/06/2010 09:10:16 PM 237 Views
Well, I agree that Egwene won't die... Etzel - 09/06/2010 09:29:32 PM 239 Views
Ya, I could see that *NM* Deadsy - 09/06/2010 09:50:58 PM 91 Views
well it could shut Romanda and Lelaine up darius_sedai - 10/06/2010 01:28:51 PM 236 Views
I agree,,, DomA - 10/06/2010 06:17:59 PM 256 Views
Egwene's dreams are symbolic DomA - 09/06/2010 01:05:24 AM 515 Views
one little caveat newyorkersedai - 09/06/2010 01:16:09 AM 242 Views
But... Etzel - 09/06/2010 11:13:24 AM 212 Views
Re: But... newyorkersedai - 09/06/2010 04:00:05 PM 229 Views
Yeah... Etzel - 09/06/2010 04:12:11 PM 229 Views
Some are more literal, while some are more symbolic Etzel - 09/06/2010 10:51:09 AM 229 Views
Re: Some are more literal, while some are more symbolic DomA - 09/06/2010 06:54:14 PM 276 Views
As you said... Etzel - 09/06/2010 08:33:13 PM 197 Views
Re: As you said... newyorkersedai - 10/06/2010 12:23:02 AM 241 Views
I disagree Etzel - 10/06/2010 08:25:13 AM 242 Views
And they were Cabriana's best friends. Aran'gar killed them to cover her tracks darius_sedai - 10/06/2010 01:48:13 PM 250 Views
Re: And they were Cabriana's best friends. Aran'gar killed them to cover her tracks DomA - 10/06/2010 11:02:36 PM 274 Views
I don't think Aran'gar is all that bright honestly... and we got a hint from the books too darius_sedai - 11/06/2010 02:29:22 AM 227 Views
Re: I don't think Aran'gar is all that bright honestly... and we got a hint from the books too DomA - 11/06/2010 01:33:27 PM 251 Views
Re: I don't think Aran'gar is all that bright honestly... and we got a hint from the books too darius_sedai - 11/06/2010 02:28:44 PM 235 Views
Re: I don't think Aran'gar is all that bright honestly... and we got a hint from the books too DomA - 11/06/2010 03:33:05 PM 413 Views
we're going to have to agree to disagree here darius_sedai - 12/06/2010 01:07:56 PM 217 Views
Found another relevant quote - Arangar wouldn't've needed Graendal's contacts in the AoL newyorkersedai - 11/06/2010 02:42:02 PM 259 Views
Re: As you said... DomA - 10/06/2010 09:45:05 PM 255 Views
Re: As you said... DomA - 10/06/2010 08:32:12 PM 225 Views
Re: As you said... Etzel - 10/06/2010 09:14:25 PM 200 Views
Re: As you said... DomA - 10/06/2010 11:40:52 PM 246 Views
So... Etzel - 11/06/2010 08:46:41 AM 247 Views
Re: So... DomA - 11/06/2010 02:37:28 PM 220 Views
as I just noted above newyorkersedai - 11/06/2010 03:26:21 PM 235 Views
Re: as I just noted above DomA - 11/06/2010 05:00:23 PM 248 Views
Well Etzel - 13/06/2010 10:58:04 AM 194 Views
LOL Sidious - 11/06/2010 09:28:28 AM 171 Views
I agree Etzel - 11/06/2010 10:13:47 AM 227 Views
Re: I agree Sidious - 12/06/2010 08:31:04 AM 259 Views
"I think" Etzel - 12/06/2010 11:56:19 AM 170 Views
Nesta was impaled on a stake and her head put on a spike for rebellion darius_sedai - 10/06/2010 01:44:53 PM 290 Views
A new bit by BS Etzel - 22/06/2010 01:30:27 PM 243 Views
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