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But why... Etzel Send a noteboard - 23/07/2010 11:32:25 AM
Would then e.g. Moridin as SH spy on Sammael and Graendal in ACoS, ch.40, or SH free Semirhage, though he is quite limited in this persona. Makes no sense.

We also see in ACoS, ch.25, that SH tortures Moghedien and then sends her to Moridin. This makes pretty clear that both can't be the same creature. They couldn't switch places and clothes that quickly.

Ultimately, I don't see the sense in fusing Moridin and SH together. It makes more sense that the DO could simply project his shadowy from into SH and this explains his powers/limitations. Moridin is simply the Forsaken, who is most dedicated to the DO and whom the DO trusts most, and therefore SH and Moridin are closely working together.

I would also think that Rand would notice a further direct link to SH, because of the balefire link to Moridin.
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Moridin & Shadar Haran saidarisnowtainted - 22/07/2010 08:14:27 PM 1735 Views
No... Etzel - 22/07/2010 08:22:52 PM 1127 Views
Re: No... saidarisnowtainted - 22/07/2010 09:31:35 PM 1027 Views
Don't let her talk you out of it so easily. Give us the reasons behind your theory! Narg - 23/07/2010 03:41:00 AM 979 Views
Re: Don't let her talk you out of it so easily. Give us the reasons behind your theory! saidarisnowtainted - 27/07/2010 04:00:26 PM 818 Views
Re: No...(en garde, Etzellius Maximus!) Mik - 23/07/2010 08:38:26 AM 1046 Views
I haven't seen those answers either so I'm interested. I don't think they're the same Deadsy - 23/07/2010 08:49:11 AM 925 Views
Well, I already talked more about it below Etzel - 23/07/2010 09:17:10 AM 1123 Views
Re: Well, I already talked more about it below Mik - 23/07/2010 11:29:08 AM 972 Views
Yup, I think they are one and the same. Mik - 23/07/2010 08:21:20 AM 1294 Views
This idea is hardly vindicable Etzel - 23/07/2010 09:12:14 AM 1031 Views
Au contraire. Mik - 23/07/2010 11:23:09 AM 1130 Views
But why... Etzel - 23/07/2010 11:32:25 AM 954 Views
Re: But why... Lord Haart - 23/07/2010 12:01:00 PM 1018 Views
Again. RJ fooled you. Mik - 23/07/2010 12:15:26 PM 1024 Views
I think it would have to work this way: Lord Haart - 23/07/2010 03:10:59 PM 966 Views
Your reasoning falls apart right at the start, even though there is some truth to the rest, I think. Mik - 23/07/2010 04:22:22 PM 1078 Views
Um not quite Ryan - 25/07/2010 05:47:22 AM 928 Views
Hehehe. True, but the mental image still helps. Ishamael - 25/07/2010 08:29:18 AM 1278 Views
Re: Hehehe. True, but the mental image still helps. Ishamael - 25/07/2010 08:32:10 AM 1306 Views
I think your evidence is pretty weak... Etzel - 26/07/2010 10:14:01 AM 885 Views
Why don't you answer some of the issues I raised then, instead of keeping it vague..? Mik - 26/07/2010 11:58:02 AM 999 Views
Re: Why don't you answer some of the issues I raised then, instead of keeping it vague..? Etzel - 26/07/2010 12:18:51 PM 993 Views
Re: Why don't you answer some of the issues I raised then, instead of keeping it vague..? Lord Haart - 26/07/2010 12:43:53 PM 944 Views
Frankly, I don't see any similarity... Etzel - 26/07/2010 01:57:56 PM 989 Views
Re: Frankly, I don't see any similarity... Lord Haart - 26/07/2010 04:09:52 PM 858 Views
The problem is... Etzel - 26/07/2010 04:27:50 PM 819 Views
No problem at all, but your unwillingness to accept the possibilty after all these years. Mik - 27/07/2010 11:38:10 AM 926 Views
I already answered all this... Etzel - 27/07/2010 11:46:36 AM 941 Views
Yeah. And as proven earlier your answers are flat-out wrong. Mik - 27/07/2010 01:17:36 PM 1043 Views
I think we have to agree to disagree Etzel - 27/07/2010 01:34:34 PM 879 Views
Agreed then. Mik - 27/07/2010 02:03:52 PM 1035 Views
Thanks for those answers. Here's how wrong they actually are: Mik - 26/07/2010 01:54:44 PM 967 Views
No problem Etzel - 26/07/2010 02:30:45 PM 1017 Views
Why does that scene matter? Lord Haart - 26/07/2010 04:16:33 PM 924 Views
Dunno, you have to ask Mik about this. *NM* Etzel - 26/07/2010 04:23:19 PM 500 Views
Why the half answer? Here's my full answer and the questions you missed..again.. Mik - 26/07/2010 05:14:00 PM 1095 Views
Just to understand you correctly... Etzel - 26/07/2010 05:33:46 PM 932 Views
Sure..I'll answer your questions again.. "quid pro quo"? Mik - 27/07/2010 12:43:21 PM 1001 Views
Well, kudos to you, if that idea turns out to be right Etzel - 27/07/2010 01:27:05 PM 959 Views
Re: Well, kudos to you, if that idea turns out to be right Lord Haart - 27/07/2010 01:56:32 PM 869 Views
The DO has control over Moridin... Etzel - 27/07/2010 02:04:50 PM 815 Views
Uhh. Thanks ..I guess. Mik - 27/07/2010 01:57:38 PM 1041 Views
I almost want the theory to be true, but one quick thing: Gher - 26/07/2010 03:53:04 PM 922 Views
Re: I almost want the theory to be true, but one quick thing: Lord Haart - 26/07/2010 04:18:40 PM 820 Views
True, but if they're ordering other people to do it anyway... Gher - 26/07/2010 04:51:18 PM 816 Views
One should also remember... Etzel - 26/07/2010 05:06:36 PM 849 Views
Eh? Mik - 26/07/2010 05:30:20 PM 873 Views
But that the killing stopped, doesn't mean at all that Moridin and SH are one creature. *NM* Etzel - 26/07/2010 05:35:02 PM 912 Views
Give me a better reason? Why did RJ make the timing fit and hid it so far apart? Mik - 26/07/2010 05:36:28 PM 962 Views
I think... Etzel - 26/07/2010 05:48:21 PM 771 Views
Re: I almost want the theory to be true, but one quick thing: Mik - 26/07/2010 05:22:46 PM 1004 Views
Re: This idea is hardly vindicable saidarisnowtainted - 27/07/2010 04:07:53 PM 888 Views
= - Oh and has anyone given thought to Hopper = Bela? Lohikaarme - 27/07/2010 09:17:18 PM 813 Views
Thanks! *bows and tips wide-brimmed hat* Mik - 28/07/2010 07:54:05 AM 1051 Views
Not the same individual DomA - 24/07/2010 02:16:01 PM 901 Views
Re: Not the same individual Lord Haart - 24/07/2010 06:07:10 PM 788 Views
Aww Dom. I really hoped you were on the same page.. Mik - 25/07/2010 09:38:35 AM 1071 Views
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