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I think it would have to work this way: Lord Haart Send a noteboard - 23/07/2010 03:10:59 PM
Ishy/Moridin starts off as a regular FS.

Then he gets stilled/burnt out/given a body that can't channel.

He uses the TP more and more, and the DO has a tie to him that won't be broken (since he is TP-addicted).

The presence of the DO inside Moridin grows.

As the seals break, this means that the DO can "take over" Moridin's body and twist it into SH (interestingly, compare this to when LTT was driven insane. Maybe this is similar to how it was done, and Ishmael's "healing" was really just channeling the DO out of LTT).

Moridin used to go further from SG (while he was still mainly Moridin) but now that he's becoming dominated by the DO he is restricted more and more to SH's "operable" area.

Now, compare SH's dark presence with that of Taim and Moridin. Moridin's DO presence is so advanced that it has basically gained it's own consiousness inside his body. It's like your shadow gaining a mind of its own.
This message last edited by Lord Haart on 23/07/2010 at 03:11:32 PM
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Moridin & Shadar Haran saidarisnowtainted - 22/07/2010 08:14:27 PM 1693 Views
No... Etzel - 22/07/2010 08:22:52 PM 1087 Views
Re: No... saidarisnowtainted - 22/07/2010 09:31:35 PM 982 Views
Don't let her talk you out of it so easily. Give us the reasons behind your theory! Narg - 23/07/2010 03:41:00 AM 940 Views
Re: Don't let her talk you out of it so easily. Give us the reasons behind your theory! saidarisnowtainted - 27/07/2010 04:00:26 PM 783 Views
Re: No...(en garde, Etzellius Maximus!) Mik - 23/07/2010 08:38:26 AM 1008 Views
I haven't seen those answers either so I'm interested. I don't think they're the same Deadsy - 23/07/2010 08:49:11 AM 886 Views
Well, I already talked more about it below Etzel - 23/07/2010 09:17:10 AM 1089 Views
Re: Well, I already talked more about it below Mik - 23/07/2010 11:29:08 AM 936 Views
Yup, I think they are one and the same. Mik - 23/07/2010 08:21:20 AM 1241 Views
This idea is hardly vindicable Etzel - 23/07/2010 09:12:14 AM 988 Views
Au contraire. Mik - 23/07/2010 11:23:09 AM 1096 Views
But why... Etzel - 23/07/2010 11:32:25 AM 916 Views
Re: But why... Lord Haart - 23/07/2010 12:01:00 PM 977 Views
Again. RJ fooled you. Mik - 23/07/2010 12:15:26 PM 986 Views
I think it would have to work this way: Lord Haart - 23/07/2010 03:10:59 PM 932 Views
Your reasoning falls apart right at the start, even though there is some truth to the rest, I think. Mik - 23/07/2010 04:22:22 PM 1033 Views
Um not quite Ryan - 25/07/2010 05:47:22 AM 891 Views
Hehehe. True, but the mental image still helps. Ishamael - 25/07/2010 08:29:18 AM 1224 Views
Re: Hehehe. True, but the mental image still helps. Ishamael - 25/07/2010 08:32:10 AM 1254 Views
I think your evidence is pretty weak... Etzel - 26/07/2010 10:14:01 AM 854 Views
Why don't you answer some of the issues I raised then, instead of keeping it vague..? Mik - 26/07/2010 11:58:02 AM 954 Views
Re: Why don't you answer some of the issues I raised then, instead of keeping it vague..? Etzel - 26/07/2010 12:18:51 PM 948 Views
Re: Why don't you answer some of the issues I raised then, instead of keeping it vague..? Lord Haart - 26/07/2010 12:43:53 PM 895 Views
Frankly, I don't see any similarity... Etzel - 26/07/2010 01:57:56 PM 957 Views
Re: Frankly, I don't see any similarity... Lord Haart - 26/07/2010 04:09:52 PM 816 Views
The problem is... Etzel - 26/07/2010 04:27:50 PM 776 Views
No problem at all, but your unwillingness to accept the possibilty after all these years. Mik - 27/07/2010 11:38:10 AM 884 Views
I already answered all this... Etzel - 27/07/2010 11:46:36 AM 897 Views
Yeah. And as proven earlier your answers are flat-out wrong. Mik - 27/07/2010 01:17:36 PM 999 Views
I think we have to agree to disagree Etzel - 27/07/2010 01:34:34 PM 837 Views
Agreed then. Mik - 27/07/2010 02:03:52 PM 992 Views
Thanks for those answers. Here's how wrong they actually are: Mik - 26/07/2010 01:54:44 PM 925 Views
No problem Etzel - 26/07/2010 02:30:45 PM 976 Views
Why does that scene matter? Lord Haart - 26/07/2010 04:16:33 PM 882 Views
Dunno, you have to ask Mik about this. *NM* Etzel - 26/07/2010 04:23:19 PM 480 Views
Why the half answer? Here's my full answer and the questions you missed..again.. Mik - 26/07/2010 05:14:00 PM 1048 Views
Just to understand you correctly... Etzel - 26/07/2010 05:33:46 PM 893 Views
Sure..I'll answer your questions again.. "quid pro quo"? Mik - 27/07/2010 12:43:21 PM 963 Views
Well, kudos to you, if that idea turns out to be right Etzel - 27/07/2010 01:27:05 PM 927 Views
Re: Well, kudos to you, if that idea turns out to be right Lord Haart - 27/07/2010 01:56:32 PM 827 Views
The DO has control over Moridin... Etzel - 27/07/2010 02:04:50 PM 779 Views
Uhh. Thanks ..I guess. Mik - 27/07/2010 01:57:38 PM 997 Views
I almost want the theory to be true, but one quick thing: Gher - 26/07/2010 03:53:04 PM 876 Views
Re: I almost want the theory to be true, but one quick thing: Lord Haart - 26/07/2010 04:18:40 PM 768 Views
True, but if they're ordering other people to do it anyway... Gher - 26/07/2010 04:51:18 PM 776 Views
One should also remember... Etzel - 26/07/2010 05:06:36 PM 805 Views
Eh? Mik - 26/07/2010 05:30:20 PM 829 Views
But that the killing stopped, doesn't mean at all that Moridin and SH are one creature. *NM* Etzel - 26/07/2010 05:35:02 PM 873 Views
Give me a better reason? Why did RJ make the timing fit and hid it so far apart? Mik - 26/07/2010 05:36:28 PM 916 Views
I think... Etzel - 26/07/2010 05:48:21 PM 722 Views
Re: I almost want the theory to be true, but one quick thing: Mik - 26/07/2010 05:22:46 PM 963 Views
Re: This idea is hardly vindicable saidarisnowtainted - 27/07/2010 04:07:53 PM 846 Views
= - Oh and has anyone given thought to Hopper = Bela? Lohikaarme - 27/07/2010 09:17:18 PM 775 Views
Thanks! *bows and tips wide-brimmed hat* Mik - 28/07/2010 07:54:05 AM 1009 Views
Not the same individual DomA - 24/07/2010 02:16:01 PM 854 Views
Re: Not the same individual Lord Haart - 24/07/2010 06:07:10 PM 746 Views
Aww Dom. I really hoped you were on the same page.. Mik - 25/07/2010 09:38:35 AM 1034 Views
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