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But that the killing stopped, doesn't mean at all that Moridin and SH are one creature. *NM* Etzel Send a noteboard - 26/07/2010 05:35:02 PM
That some time after Ishy's death, Sammael took control of Carridin. Serving his new master, certainly protected Carridin in a way. After all, Carridin wasn't immediately killed in LoC or ACoS, when SH and Moridin appeared, but not until after Sammael's death. He also wasn't killed in the way SH 0.5. threatened him, namely being tortured for years at SG, but rather quickly. Besides that, SH 0.5. gave the command to kill Rand, and we know that Moridin didn't want that after he was transmigrated.
Sammaels protection was bogus! Sammael protecting an insect? Ha! Sammael could care less.

And for all we know, Carridin could have been taken to Shayol Ghul still. If Shai'tan can catch Souls/ Minds to Transmigrate, why couldn't he catch Carridins dirty Darkfriend Soul to torture for all eternity and-then-some.
Reminds me of that burned darkfriend dying in TEotW looking hapilly untill the very last second in TAR.
Reminds me of the fire in the hearth at Shayol Ghul; all those tormented faces!

Besides, it's irrelevant if the promise is kept to the letter;
When Ishamael died, the killing stopped for 2 months.
The fact remains, no matter how much you clutter it with additional stuff..
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Moridin & Shadar Haran - 22/07/2010 08:14:27 PM 1467 Views
No... - 22/07/2010 08:22:52 PM 858 Views
Re: No... - 22/07/2010 09:31:35 PM 757 Views
Re: No...(en garde, Etzellius Maximus!) - 23/07/2010 08:38:26 AM 786 Views
Well, I already talked more about it below - 23/07/2010 09:17:10 AM 887 Views
Re: Well, I already talked more about it below - 23/07/2010 11:29:08 AM 726 Views
Yup, I think they are one and the same. - 23/07/2010 08:21:20 AM 1017 Views
This idea is hardly vindicable - 23/07/2010 09:12:14 AM 766 Views
Au contraire. - 23/07/2010 11:23:09 AM 853 Views
But why... - 23/07/2010 11:32:25 AM 736 Views
Re: But why... - 23/07/2010 12:01:00 PM 779 Views
Again. RJ fooled you. - 23/07/2010 12:15:26 PM 767 Views
I think it would have to work this way: - 23/07/2010 03:10:59 PM 728 Views
Your reasoning falls apart right at the start, even though there is some truth to the rest, I think. - 23/07/2010 04:22:22 PM 815 Views
Um not quite - 25/07/2010 05:47:22 AM 674 Views
Hehehe. True, but the mental image still helps. - 25/07/2010 08:29:18 AM 905 Views
Re: Hehehe. True, but the mental image still helps. - 25/07/2010 08:32:10 AM 935 Views
I think your evidence is pretty weak... - 26/07/2010 10:14:01 AM 635 Views
Why don't you answer some of the issues I raised then, instead of keeping it vague..? - 26/07/2010 11:58:02 AM 754 Views
Re: Why don't you answer some of the issues I raised then, instead of keeping it vague..? - 26/07/2010 12:18:51 PM 712 Views
Re: Why don't you answer some of the issues I raised then, instead of keeping it vague..? - 26/07/2010 12:43:53 PM 686 Views
Frankly, I don't see any similarity... - 26/07/2010 01:57:56 PM 761 Views
Re: Frankly, I don't see any similarity... - 26/07/2010 04:09:52 PM 619 Views
The problem is... - 26/07/2010 04:27:50 PM 568 Views
No problem at all, but your unwillingness to accept the possibilty after all these years. - 27/07/2010 11:38:10 AM 682 Views
I already answered all this... - 27/07/2010 11:46:36 AM 698 Views
Yeah. And as proven earlier your answers are flat-out wrong. - 27/07/2010 01:17:36 PM 804 Views
I think we have to agree to disagree - 27/07/2010 01:34:34 PM 644 Views
Agreed then. - 27/07/2010 02:03:52 PM 778 Views
Thanks for those answers. Here's how wrong they actually are: - 26/07/2010 01:54:44 PM 724 Views
No problem - 26/07/2010 02:30:45 PM 775 Views
Why does that scene matter? - 26/07/2010 04:16:33 PM 649 Views
Dunno, you have to ask Mik about this. *NM* - 26/07/2010 04:23:19 PM 371 Views
Why the half answer? Here's my full answer and the questions you missed..again.. - 26/07/2010 05:14:00 PM 850 Views
Just to understand you correctly... - 26/07/2010 05:33:46 PM 696 Views
Sure..I'll answer your questions again.. "quid pro quo"? - 27/07/2010 12:43:21 PM 776 Views
Well, kudos to you, if that idea turns out to be right - 27/07/2010 01:27:05 PM 729 Views
Re: Well, kudos to you, if that idea turns out to be right - 27/07/2010 01:56:32 PM 621 Views
The DO has control over Moridin... - 27/07/2010 02:04:50 PM 587 Views
Uhh. Thanks ..I guess. - 27/07/2010 01:57:38 PM 793 Views
I almost want the theory to be true, but one quick thing: - 26/07/2010 03:53:04 PM 632 Views
Re: I almost want the theory to be true, but one quick thing: - 26/07/2010 04:18:40 PM 572 Views
True, but if they're ordering other people to do it anyway... - 26/07/2010 04:51:18 PM 601 Views
One should also remember... - 26/07/2010 05:06:36 PM 594 Views
Eh? - 26/07/2010 05:30:20 PM 620 Views
But that the killing stopped, doesn't mean at all that Moridin and SH are one creature. *NM* - 26/07/2010 05:35:02 PM 677 Views
Give me a better reason? Why did RJ make the timing fit and hid it so far apart? - 26/07/2010 05:36:28 PM 693 Views
I think... - 26/07/2010 05:48:21 PM 514 Views
Re: I almost want the theory to be true, but one quick thing: - 26/07/2010 05:22:46 PM 772 Views
Re: This idea is hardly vindicable - 27/07/2010 04:07:53 PM 626 Views
= - Oh and has anyone given thought to Hopper = Bela? - 27/07/2010 09:17:18 PM 567 Views
Thanks! *bows and tips wide-brimmed hat* - 28/07/2010 07:54:05 AM 789 Views
Not the same individual - 24/07/2010 02:16:01 PM 624 Views
Re: Not the same individual - 24/07/2010 06:07:10 PM 539 Views
Aww Dom. I really hoped you were on the same page.. - 25/07/2010 09:38:35 AM 843 Views

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