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Re: Perhaps they would die? Lordling Send a noteboard - 05/08/2010 08:33:18 AM
Not even Semirhage could actually overcome the oaths through torture alone. The problem is that it does not matter how much the subject WANTS to obey the torturer, the oaths work despite that. I suppose if you tortured someone for so long that they went utterly and completely insane then some of the oaths might be bypassed since the perceptions would be distorted.

I'm not saying she could torture someone to break an oath.
She likes to do her torture in a private, completely controlled environment. The Oath Rod could be used to create a more interesting, unique scenario. If she forces someone to swear "I will not give in to pain and will not cry" I bet she she'd find that an interesting experiment. Almost as good as testing what will happen if the victim's blood is removed...


Or lets say using OP as a weapon. The oath states that OP can be used as a weapon only in self defense, or the defense of a warder or _another sister_. If an AS damane could somehow be completely convinced that since she is property of the Empire, all female seanchan are her sisters, then she could use the OP as a weapon to protect any female soldiers in danger(her sisters).

I don't understand you logic here at all. In this context a "sister" is another Aes Sedai. Aes Sedai are sisters, Amyrlin is the Mother and novices are children. Property don't have sisters, they're not related to anyone.

Aes Sedai probably couldn't channel to save their biological sisters, because they all understand the Oath to mean just Aes Sedai sisters, and are thus bound by their interpretation.
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or just adapt the one power as a weapon oath to include a sister's freedom as well as her life *NM* nigelgoboom - 04/08/2010 01:45:43 AM 386 Views
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they can't Foxhead - 04/08/2010 12:54:46 AM 925 Views
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read the oaths again darius_sedai - 04/08/2010 08:15:24 PM 863 Views
Re: read the oaths again Datakim - 05/08/2010 01:08:32 AM 879 Views
Re: read the oaths again darius_sedai - 05/08/2010 05:52:08 PM 854 Views
I don't think #1 is as simple as you say. Gher - 04/08/2010 02:22:25 AM 829 Views
What kind of advantage is it, anyway? Fanatic-Templar - 04/08/2010 03:43:40 AM 823 Views
Re: What kind of advantage is it, anyway? DomA - 04/08/2010 11:16:03 AM 804 Views
Gher - 04/08/2010 04:04:35 PM 804 Views
Egwene had novices teach it to Adelorna... fionwe1987 - 04/08/2010 07:10:42 AM 874 Views
For the most part, they can only defend themselves... DomA - 04/08/2010 10:59:23 AM 1008 Views
Yes, we really need to see... Nameless Ashaman - 04/08/2010 01:19:15 PM 823 Views
Re: For the most part, they can only defend themselves... Code_Man65 - 04/08/2010 03:35:53 PM 855 Views
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Re: For the most part, they can only defend themselves... Datakim - 05/08/2010 01:17:44 AM 854 Views
I think the BT would wipe the floor with the damane on their home turf darius_sedai - 05/08/2010 08:19:38 PM 773 Views
Re: I think the BT would wipe the floor with the damane on their home turf Datakim - 05/08/2010 11:57:43 PM 811 Views
Whoa whoa whoa! Nameless Ashaman - 06/08/2010 03:07:34 AM 835 Views
agreed! darius_sedai - 06/08/2010 05:37:46 PM 830 Views
Re: Whoa whoa whoa! Datakim - 06/08/2010 07:42:35 PM 917 Views
Are you kidding? darius_sedai - 06/08/2010 11:49:42 PM 830 Views
I actually think the opposite: the damane would wipe the floor with the BT RugbyPlayingAshaman - 13/08/2010 11:27:21 PM 835 Views
Umm... Dumai's wells? Nameless Ashaman - 14/08/2010 04:15:59 AM 775 Views
Depends on the circumstances really darius_sedai - 14/08/2010 02:39:30 PM 827 Views
I don't think that's the case darius_sedai - 05/08/2010 08:02:27 PM 944 Views
My thoughts on the damane... Great Lord of Chaos - 05/08/2010 04:11:35 AM 792 Views
Re: My thoughts on the damane... Datakim - 05/08/2010 01:24:38 PM 802 Views
How exactly would Egwene learn where the Damane are kept? darius_sedai - 05/08/2010 07:57:55 PM 1023 Views
Interrogate the Damane. Great Lord of Chaos - 05/08/2010 10:32:17 PM 730 Views
unlikely that she would go there darius_sedai - 06/08/2010 05:37:18 PM 852 Views
Re: unlikely that she would go there Datakim - 06/08/2010 07:47:41 PM 775 Views
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